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chan32167 2011-05-30 17:18

PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
As everyone knows now Nokia have more or less ABANDONED the N900 and now it really IS down to this community to further any future development.

This thread is self explanitory to make an online Petition to abill_uk, the idea's to get abill_uk release the full "fix" of the USB problems and the USB HOST MODE, he alone discovered and perfected for our N900. INCLUDING PICTURES.

I will devote my time to further development only if i have the original source code available to me(not really i got no time), i am no way going to stab in the dark with this as the USB teams are, working almost blind with all the knowledge abill_uk keeps for himself components, quite frankly they will do a hell of a lot better armed with the full abill_uk know how of the N900 USB.

Everyone who would like to see N900 further developed please leave a post in agreement and any idea's you may have for Abill to release fully the Know How for the N900 USB problems and USB HOST MODE and for further N900 development.

If your vote is a NO could you please let us know why you voted no.

Please note that this Poll is public as you can click on the results table to get the voting list of names.

Please make sure everyone that you realise this is YOUR Community and this is YOUR Poll and feel free to give any idea's you have to enable further development of N900.

This Poll has no time limit and will be open for everyone at any time.

Any flame wars will be reported... not...


Edit2: well the source of this petition is this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=240
and well i remember some old post where he says he has USB host mode working... that he wont share it...

Edit3: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...=usb+host+mode well this is the other thread where he claims he has USB host mode working...

So what are we waiting for, vote so abill shares all his knowledge...

arora.rohan 2011-05-30 18:28

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
omg man its abill_uk ! in linux the case matters!

casper27 2011-05-30 18:39

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@OP
Why did you vote no then??

chan32167 2011-05-30 18:54

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 1018834)
@OP
Why did you vote no then??

cause i dont need it... but i am asking on behalf the community... lets see what this thread does... maybe abill =/= nokia... and he delivers

Dave999 2011-05-30 18:59

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Whats going on here? why vote yes? why vote no?

chan32167 2011-05-30 19:01

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
this thread starts because of this...

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=240

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...=usb+host+mode

i will add it to the first post

Boemien 2011-05-30 19:59

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abill_uk (Post 786996)
I have done various things with the hardware but am not prepared to give out details untill we have a FULLY open drivers source and a solid Meego OS to support the minor wiring changes i have made to enable USB OTG, HOST mode among other mods

I Think He has been a little bit clear.

m4r0v3r 2011-05-30 20:07

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I don't get it, who is Abill_uk trying to boycott by this? Nokia? They don't give a ****, and I doubt we will have open source drivers unless someone's kind enough to write them, most likely being MAG. What does he mean by a "Solid Meego OS" ? By a Meego OS on the N900? Since I know he doesn't agree with the efforts of the Developer Edition...

chan32167 2011-05-30 20:15

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boemien (Post 1018890)
I Think He has been a little bit clear.

what i dont get is how does he have it working... did he hack those drivers?? cause if you did read that post... he says he has it working without those drivers... or so i understand... why would he need the drivers??

efekt 2011-05-30 20:17

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Ah damn, I thought it was a petition to ban Abill_uk... Uh well, nothing to see here then.

bandora 2011-05-30 20:23

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lmao....................

thashku 2011-05-30 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1018893)
I don't get it, who is Abill_uk trying to boycott by this? Nokia? They don't give a ****, and I doubt we will have open source drivers unless someone's kind enough to write them, most likely being MAG. What does he mean by a "Solid Meego OS" ? By a Meego OS on the N900? Since I know he doesn't agree with the efforts of the Developer Edition...

DE ui is fantasy but not great..there is something but at a whole total nothing..more works has to be done.
i have got question to ask abt DE.
will there be SSU for meego updates or should i be doing the same with images as i did for DE?
willstable meego be coming up for our beloved n900??:P

HellFlyer 2011-05-30 20:31

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I think every forum needs a guy like him :D

chan32167 2011-05-30 20:31

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thashku (Post 1018909)
DE ui is fantasy but not great..there is something but at a whole total nothing..more works has to be done.
i have got question to ask abt DE.
will there be SSU for meego updates or should i be doing the same with images as i did for DE?
willstable meego be coming up for our beloved n900??:P

not the place to ask that :p it is all about abill here and his "closed" solutions to the usb problems...

chan32167 2011-05-30 20:56

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
so i have made the first approach to the mighty abill_uk asking how many yes'es he needs to open all his knowledge on these topics... so please people help vote... i will keep in touch with him... Remember this petition is for the community

king Ralphred 2011-05-30 21:09

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I've used h-e-n and it seems to be working. Not sure what the problem is.

chan32167 2011-05-30 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by king Ralphred (Post 1018935)
I've used h-e-n and it seems to be working. Not sure what the problem is.

no problems... just me trolling abill as i have light work today... but hey who knows he might have the "real" solutions for all the usb problems as he claims(step by step instructions on how to fix the loose usb's that affect a great deal of people, would be great).

m4r0v3r 2011-05-30 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thashku (Post 1018909)
DE ui is fantasy but not great..there is something but at a whole total nothing..more works has to be done.
i have got question to ask abt DE.
will there be SSU for meego updates or should i be doing the same with images as i did for DE?
willstable meego be coming up for our beloved n900??:P

Meego OS will not be coming to N900, there is a method to install the Developer Edition onto the EMMC but it's not recommended, it is not for end users. Simple as, if you enjoy your functions, don't do it, it will be a worse experience than Maemo (no offence intended to the Developer Edition team) but even they admit that it will only support the basic functions, and if your doing this for Apps that might one day come just got get Nitdroid.

Captwheeto 2011-05-30 21:51

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This is the stupidest thread I've ever read. Well. One of.

jj0 2011-05-30 21:55

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Lmfao !!!!!

jj0 2011-05-30 21:56

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I am no way gonna stab in the dark with this, Muhehe...

Hurrian 2011-05-30 22:14

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
What the bloody **** is going on in this thread?
His requests are unreasonable. There is NO open-source SGX driver available. Nokia for obvious reasons will NOT open BME. It will take a ****-tonne of time to write OSS replacements.

And the USB fix = prevention. Sand the uUSB connectors, and secure the USB port by using whatever method suits you - epoxy, hot glue, super glue, whatever. Once it's broken off and the pads are gone, as in the USB thread, either send it back to Nokia or try the debug pads under the battery.

As for hostmode -- don't we have this working already? Sure, we have to stop BME, and it's slightly buggy, but it WORKS.

Daneel 2011-05-31 00:51

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
abill, please FREE US from the oppression of our miserable reality, be our saviour, our NEO, free our minds!

Texrat 2011-05-31 01:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1018972)
Once it's broken off and the pads are gone, as in the USB thread, either send it back to Nokia or try the debug pads under the battery.

OT: Has anyone posted a how-to on that?

ScottishDuck 2011-05-31 01:23

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Anyone who votes no should be banned.
Anyone who posts something negative should be banned.
Now if you don't mind I'll post some ill informed statements and slander developers.
P.S I don't claim to repesent the community so I'm immune from criticism!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abill_uk

abill_uk 2011-05-31 01:24

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1019047)
OT: Has anyone posted a how-to on that?

Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.

Hurrian 2011-05-31 01:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 1019047)
OT: Has anyone posted a how-to on that?

Here.

[Filler text to count towards the 10 char minimum.]

ScottishDuck 2011-05-31 01:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1019049)
Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.

79% of the community agrees with us. Why the censorship?

Daneel 2011-05-31 02:11

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BaaaaaaaaHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!

You are surreal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1019049)
Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.


chan32167 2011-05-31 02:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1019049)
Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.

so abill lets make things open like you like it... the poll is 31 / 9 so how many more do we need till you open pandora's box of knowledge... or i mean abill_uk's box of more BS?

Descalzo 2011-05-31 02:29

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I love this thread.

gerbick 2011-05-31 02:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Descalzo (Post 1019071)
I love this thread.

Quoted for emphasis.

Daneel 2011-05-31 02:55

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Poll count today is 33 for and 9 against.

daperl 2011-05-31 03:01

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Let's take a look at the scoreboard, shall we!

Nokia: Thousands of lines of open source code and documentation
abill_uk: 0

Stskeeps 2011-05-31 03:09

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1018943)
Meego OS will not be coming to N900, there is a method to install the Developer Edition onto the EMMC but it's not recommended, it is not for end users. Simple as, if you enjoy your functions, don't do it, it will be a worse experience than Maemo (no offence intended to the Developer Edition team) but even they admit that it will only support the basic functions, and if your doing this for Apps that might one day come just got get Nitdroid.

How did this end up in a thread about abill_uk's magic USB fix?

(that said, I would like to have a USB fix right now, given my bent USB plug)

Off-topic: We go for basic functions FIRST to make them work really well instead of having a half-assed solution, not ONLY.

Texrat 2011-05-31 03:09

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FYI, just because I (or any other moderator) comment in a thread like this in NO way means I (or any other moderator) endorse any of the contents.

And just because we don't act on something immediately doesn't mean we're ignoring it or letting it go. Some actions require discussion first. And God forbid I kneejerk into an invocation of Godwin's Law...

Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1019049)
Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.

Careful what you wish for.

fahadj2003 2011-05-31 03:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chan32167 (Post 1018936)
no problems... just me trolling abill as i have light work today... but hey who knows he might have the "real" solutions for all the usb problems as he claims(step by step instructions on how to fix the loose usb's that affect a great deal of people, would be great).

the answer to the usb?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1018972)
What the bloody **** is going on in this thread?
His requests are unreasonable. There is NO open-source SGX driver available. Nokia for obvious reasons will NOT open BME. It will take a ****-tonne of time to write OSS replacements.

And the USB fix = prevention. Sand the uUSB connectors, and secure the USB port by using whatever method suits you - epoxy, hot glue, super glue, whatever. Once it's broken off and the pads are gone, as in the USB thread, either send it back to Nokia or try the debug pads under the battery.

it doesnt take rocket science, even an idiot can figure that out, sir.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1019049)
Are you actually going to allow this redicul assss thread? or do i have to shut it down myself?.

i dont mean any disrespect, but i saw ur negativity towards meego, which were well justified and i've even elaborated it to the other threat. *http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...08#post1013208 <-- this one to be more specific*
thing is, they need you to justify, not me. thats the reason to most of the hatred, and yes, i do agree, mr.chan32167 along with majority of other dumb members of this community who complain but dont participate, can't really understand the technical details.
all they need is for u to stick to the point, dumb it down, and not get into technical details.

bottom line is, if you believe that there's a good reason behind it, do share it with us.

and yes, i've followed up with the https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9314
nokia thinks its dangerous and thinks it can cause a liability for them..
as far as i can tell, thats good enough for me to vote for no.
and yes, i think its safe to assume that abill_uk, if is in possession fo the drivers, can be sued for it *incase nokia goes as extreme as sony*
the bottom line remains, we all need to move on. N900 is over.
why is it over?
coz community is exhausted, out of resources, and all the possibilities with the current situation have been met, and without open drivers for all components, there are no further possibilities for the N900, if there are, they're limited in number.
i'd suggest you all get new phones and "get over it"

**edit, oh for the record.
i've read all of ur 40 posts..
i find only 2 or 3 useful
and the best part, your first post *http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...96#post641096* was to accuse abill of being a troll.
not just that
Quote:

Originally Posted by chan32167 (Post 1018936)
Did abill_uk go to troll university to get his "engineer" degree... because calling himself, an engineer, kindda insults the rest of us, who actually have engineering degrees...

insults the rest of "us"
so you're a "engineer" too and you're dumb enough to not figure out how to use superglue?
like i said, its not rocket science. and you're no better then "many" other unproductive idiots on this forum.
the way i see it, you need the drivers too, and you dont wanna "bow down" to abill and ask for help, but honestly, you're jus begging him to give u the drivers.
otherwise, i dont see why you're interested in the drivers.. interested enough to open up a poll for it.

you're the reason why this community lost its track.
now you can bit*h about me all you want.
peace.

Hurrian 2011-05-31 03:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 1019084)
it doesnt take rocket science, even an idiot can figure that out, sir.

Hence my "no" vote and a short summary of the only REAL solutions to the USB problem (all taken from the big USB thread) . Bottom line is, if people couldn't figure out how to repair it (even with the debug pads-usb-rerouting) they might as well bring it to Nokia Care.

geneven 2011-05-31 03:40

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
Please try to stay on topic, for the good of the community! The poll requests that certain information be provided. Comments that it is a "redicul assss" thread are clearly not on the subject.

I fear for the morality of the community when such comments are allowed.

chan32167 2011-05-31 03:45

Re: PETITION to Abill_uk to release the full "how to" of the USB Fix and USB HOST MODE to this Community.
 
and you call yourself a troll fahadj...


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