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prezes2117 2011-06-01 10:24

HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Hi everyone!
I know it is a lots of threads on this topic here but i think my is a bit unusual.
So 3 days ago i found my n900 turned off in the morning, so firs is first i pluged it in to charge, but i got no orange led just the Nokia logo with a backlight and USB icon on and then it turned off and all over again.
So i got down, turned on the flasher and starter flashing the fiasco witch flashed succesfully, then i starded flashing with the vanilla and it said device not found, so i waited for a couple of minutes and it started flashing. The phone in the mean time switched to booting screen and got stuck on second dot, after that the flasher finished succesfully and it rebooted the phone but still that same problem- goes to nokia logo and thats it!.
I also tried conecting the phone without battery to the PC and then inserting the battery but it switches on automaticly and still that same problem.
Iordered an external charger for the battery witch schould be with me with the next couple maby 3 days.
Is there somethong i can do in the mean time? Will it still work?
I did not install any aplications in the last 2 months and it was updated to PR1.3
Any help and input is appreciated.

mrsellout 2011-06-01 10:57

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
I don't know if this might help you, but it came to mind when you mentioned the second dot.
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Fla..._reflashing.21

shardul 2011-06-01 10:59

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Have you install uboot

prezes2117 2011-06-01 11:03

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1020056)
I don't know if this might help you, but it came to mind when you mentioned the second dot.
http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Fla..._reflashing.21

Thanks guys
I tried the R&D but that did not help :(

prezes2117 2011-06-01 11:04

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul (Post 1020057)
Have you install uboot

No i did not, i only had some games on it and movies but the last time i downloaded anything on it was about 2 months ago

shardul 2011-06-01 11:06

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
First, Are you using 64-bits.

prezes2117 2011-06-01 11:17

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul (Post 1020068)
First, Are you using 64-bits.

I am using Vista 32bit, but hoe i stadet the flasher done its job:confused: so im not to sure now.
I noticed something: when i switch the phone it goes to nokia logo the 5-10 sec later it just switches off and doesnt restart, but when i plug the wall charger nokia logo comes in with the USB icon the the icon desaperes then 5-10 sec later it restarts and that same again, no orange or whithe led. Display comes on with backlight:confused:
Any ideas

prezes2117 2011-06-01 11:23

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
in the flashing mode the backlight is lit all the time

shardul 2011-06-01 12:03

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
You need to charge your battery by any other method or you can use nokia 5800 battery.

prezes2117 2011-06-01 12:08

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul (Post 1020114)
You need to charge your battery by any other method or you can use nokia 5800 battery.

Unfortunatly i dont have a 5800 battery on hand :/.
I will need to w8 for the external charger then.

But i just flashed it one more time with only the emmc image and it went in to booting mode just before flashing but got stuck on the second dot but now it had a solid yelow led:confused:. is that good?
I will try as well to flash it now with fiasco and will se what happends

prezes2117 2011-06-01 12:31

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
reflashed it with the fiasco and nothing changed:mad:.

I will just w8 for the external charger and will give u an update then. In the mean time if u have any ideas keep them coming.

Thanks guys

prezes2117 2011-06-02 00:54

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
got another small/big update for you guys.

When i put the battery in the phone the screen lights up and the right hand side of the keyboard has back light on it (arrows and fiew upper leters) and also when i press the power button for a short time without switching it on the screen lights up as well:confused:. Is that a battery fault or is something burnt in the mother board of the phone????:eek:
Please HELP!

lardman 2011-06-02 08:15

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Is the device in R&D mode?

R&D mode uses the keyboard backlight to convey information about clocks and interrupts iirc.

prezes2117 2011-06-02 09:29

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
I had the R&D on before t se if it changes anything but i disabled it. When you switch the phone on the screen only comes with Nokia logo and no other icons.
The screen and keyboard(lit all the time) only does it when you plug in the battery. If you take out the battery and plug it to wall vharger the yellow led will blink once and nothing alse happends. The screen and keyboard doesnt lit up.

I am not sure what happened with my phone, Hope it did not die. Tryed cold flashing but that did not work.
I have a desktop charger on order and a seperate battery

sudarsan_avs 2011-06-02 09:49

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prezes2117 (Post 1020078)
I am using Vista 32bit, but hoe i stadet the flasher done its job:confused: so im not to sure now.
I noticed something: when i switch the phone it goes to nokia logo the 5-10 sec later it just switches off and doesnt restart, but when i plug the wall charger nokia logo comes in with the USB icon the the icon desaperes then 5-10 sec later it restarts and that same again, no orange or whithe led. Display comes on with backlight:confused:
Any ideas

I had same kind of issue two days back got fixed by flashing only kernel. Check the below link for more details:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73643

prezes2117 2011-06-02 10:17

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sudarsan_avs (Post 1020803)
I had same kind of issue two days back got fixed by flashing only kernel. Check the below link for more details:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73643

Thanks sudarsan, I have question to that link: witch image schould i place there? The EMMC or FIASCO?
I will give that a go

shardul 2011-06-02 10:19

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prezes2117 (Post 1020823)
Thanks sudarsan, I have question to that link: witch image schould i place there? The EMMC or FIASCO?
I will give that a go


Simply flash your n900 using FIASCO :rolleyes:

prezes2117 2011-06-02 10:24

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
well, i flashed the FIASCO and EMMC a dosen of times and i flashed it in R&D mode and still nothong changed. What is a bit strange is when i put it in the flashing mode the screen has back light all the time?1

prezes2117 2011-06-02 10:38

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
just flashed only the kernel and no change :/

How can i disable/enable the watchdogs and/or flags to get it maby to boot?

Never mind found how to do it, but it did not help
That is the lione i have putted:
flasher-3.5 --set-rd-flags=no-ext-wd,no-lifeguard-reset --enable-rd-mode

prezes2117 2011-06-02 11:24

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo
 
I also notised that the solid orange led is half orange in colour and half whiteish, greenish colour :confused:???


the insteresting bit is as well that when i flash it with the FIASCO it showes every thing went succesful, then i will flash it with eMMC and it goes in to boot with the five dots, stays there for like 5 sec and then from right to left it stops from on the second dot from the left and it flashes the eMMC good as well, but it doesnt want to boot after flashing:confused:. And when i plug in the charger i get the solid led in the colour above.

Im still w8ing for the external charger and a new battery. When i will receive those i will flash it again and will update you guys.

Forgot, also: why when i put the battery in the phone the screen lights up and then goes dark:confused:, and the keyboard is lit up from left hand side (arrows):confused:. When i short press the power button the screen is black but gets a back light for about 2 sec and then goes dark again. The R&D is disable!. I can switch it on when i long press the power button, but it only goes to Nokia logo nad after 30 sec it switches off (no restart). It only restarts when conected to USB or wall charger with solid led (orangeish, whiteish, greenish colour).

This is an unusual case i think :/

shardul 2011-06-02 14:13

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Try to flash EMMC and FIASCO

prezes2117 2011-06-02 14:20

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul (Post 1020982)
Try to flash EMMC and FIASCO

Hmmmm..........I know you shouldn't do it like that, but i will give that a go later on today.

Thanks for the idea shardul, will post an update after im done

prezes2117 2011-06-02 14:41

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
so i flashed it with the emmc for now and after the flash it is still stuck on the second dot and hace a solid (orangeish, greenish, whiteish) led. Should i reboot it or install the fiasco:confused:

Flashed the eMMC first and the fiasco after, it did not change anything.

But thanks for the idea:)

prezes2117 2011-06-02 21:19

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
I found a log on a diffirent forum that look exactly like mine The guy also had that same problem as me but there were no answers under his post he also done all the flashing and the phone was still that same.
Here are the logs:

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe
flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

Nothing to do!
Usage: flasher [OPTIONS]
Options:
-F, --fiasco=ARG Location of a FIASCO image
-k, --kernel=ARG Location of kernel image
-n, --initfs=ARG Location of initfs image
-r, --rootfs=ARG Location of root JFFS2 image
--cmt-2nd=ARG Location of CMT FIASCO 2nd image
--cmt-algo=ARG Location of CMT FIASCO algorithm image
--cmt-mcusw=ARG Location of CMT FIASCO MCUSW image
--cmt-no-verify Disable verification of CMT programming
-x, --xloader=ARG Location of X-Loader image
-s, --secondary=ARG Location of NOLO secondary bootloader image
-2, --2nd=ARG Location of NOLO cold flasher ("2nd") image
-u, --unpack[=ARG] Unpack a FIASCO image
-f, --flash Load and flash all supplied images
-l, --load Only load all supplied images
-b, --boot[=ARG] Boot the kernel with optional cmdline
-R, --reboot Reboot the board (e.g. after flashing NOLO)
-i, --read-device-id Print out the device type
-S, --serial-port=ARG Serial port used for cold flashing or "usb"
-I, --init-port Only initialize the serial port
-c, --cold-flash "Cold flash" the device
-h, --hw-revision=ARG Specify product code and HW revision
--enable-rd-mode Enable R&D mode on the device
--disable-rd-mode Disable R&D mode on the device
--set-rd-flags[=ARG] Set R&D mode flags on the device
--clear-rd-flags[=ARG] Clear R&D mode flags on the device
--query-rd-mode Query the device R&D mode status and flags
--set-hw-revision[=ARG] Set HW revision override on device
--flash-only=ARG Flash only certain components
-U, --usb-device=ARG Specify USB device to use (bus:device address)

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_CO
MBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f
flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

SW version in image: RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0
Image 'kernel', size 1704 kB
Version 2.6.28-20094803.3+0m5
Image 'rootfs', size 158336 kB
Version RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0
Image 'cmt-2nd', size 81408 bytes
Version BB5_09.36
Image 'cmt-algo', size 519808 bytes
Version BB5_09.36
Image 'cmt-mcusw', size 5824 kB
Version rx51_ICPR82_09w47
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2217, 2218, 2219, 2220, 2120
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14848 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2217, 2218, 2219, 2220, 2120
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109440 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2217, 2218, 2219, 2220, 2120
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14848 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109440 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2101, 2102, 2103
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2104, 2105, 2106, 2107, 2108, 2109, 2110, 2111, 2112, 2
113, 2114, 2115, 2116, 2117, 2118, 2119
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14848 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2104, 2105, 2106, 2107, 2108, 2109, 2110, 2111, 2112, 2
113, 2114, 2115, 2116, 2117, 2118, 2119
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109440 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2104, 2105, 2106, 2107, 2108, 2109, 2110, 2111, 2112, 2
113, 2114, 2115, 2116, 2117, 2118, 2119
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image '2nd', size 14720 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2201, 2202, 2203, 2204, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2208, 2209, 2
210, 2211, 2212, 2213, 2214, 2215, 2216
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'xloader', size 14848 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2201, 2202, 2203, 2204, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2208, 2209, 2
210, 2211, 2212, 2213, 2214, 2215, 2216
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
Image 'secondary', size 109440 bytes
Valid for RX-51: 2201, 2202, 2203, 2204, 2205, 2206, 2207, 2208, 2209, 2
210, 2211, 2212, 2213, 2214, 2215, 2216
Version 1.4.14.4.4+0m5
USB device found found at bus bus-0, device address \\.\libusb0-0005--0x0421-0x0
105.
Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
NOLO version 1.4.14
Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0
Sending xloader image (14 kB)...
100% (14 of 0 kB, avg. 14 kB/s)
Sending secondary image (106 kB)...
100% (106 of 0 kB, avg. 106 kB/s)
Flashing bootloader... done.
Sending cmt-2nd image (79 kB)...
100% (79 of 0 kB, avg. 79 kB/s)
Sending cmt-algo image (507 kB)...
100% (507 of 0 kB, avg. 507 kB/s)
Sending cmt-mcusw image (5824 kB)...
100% (5824 of 0 kB, avg. 5824 kB/s)
Flashing cmt-mcusw... done.
Sending kernel image (1704 kB)...
100% (1704 of 0 kB, avg. 1704 kB/s)
Flashing kernel... done.
Sending and flashing rootfs image (158336 kB)...
100% (158336 of 0 kB, avg. 158336 kB/s)
Finishing flashing... done
CMT flashed successfully

C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANI
LLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009)

Image 'mmc', size 255947 kB
Version RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA
USB device found found at bus bus-0, device address \\.\libusb0-0005--0x0421-0x0
105.
Found device RX-51, hardware revision 2204
NOLO version 1.4.14
Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0
Booting device into flash mode.
Suitable USB device not found, waiting.
USB device found found at bus bus-0, device address \\.\libusb0-0005--0x0421-0x0
1c8.
Raw data transfer EP found at EP2.
Image(s) flashed successfully in 29.546 s (8662 kB/s)!

prezes2117 2011-06-03 18:20

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Hi guys still did not receive the battery and charger, but i have a stupid question:

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY MY SCREEN HAS BACKLIGHT IN FLASH MODE:confused: :eek:

I know it shouldn't have backlight

ndi 2011-06-03 21:59

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Sounds to me like you need to take it to Nokia Care.

There is little more to do other than flashing the device, and, since it was done correctly, that's that.

Sounds like the SoC is shot, but I can't tell like that. Solid orange is good (if it's orange. If it's red, it's bad). Use a multimeter to check battery - any voltage above 3.6 is OK in the sense that battery is still there and kicking. 4.2 is full, 3.6 is empty.

Don't think it's the battery, if it were it would die not get stuck. I had something similar to your issue in the sense of it getting stuck about where yours was, but I solved that via flashing.

If you connect the device to USB while off, does it still power up and act like an USB stick? Did you try to boot it without SIM and SD?

ETA: I remember someone was talking about publishing an image for N900 EN with Backupmenu and Bootmenu already in - that could allow you to power up N900 with kbd open and check the filesystem - maybe determine if the rootfs chip is shot (this could be it - flashing doesn't skip bad sectors and a bad on rootfs would give you similar symptoms).

prezes2117 2011-06-04 09:10

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Thanks for the info ndi
I would take it to nokia centre.
But i think it is out of warranty. I bot it over a year ago from ebay (used).with no proof of sale:/

Every single flash is done without SIM and SD card

When i connect it to USB in flash mode i get the nokia logo with backlight and the USB icon in top right (the backlight is interesting).
Not sure what u mean acting like USB stick but when i plug it in to USB like in wall charger it turns on with back light and keyboard light from right and left no middle (the light on the right of keyboard is brighter then left) and then Nokia logo for 30 s and then that same again. But when i flash it with second image (vanilla) in 1 moment it goes to boot and i see the 5 dots and the they stop on the second from left, and then the vanilla starts flashing, so the boot sector should be ok.

Also when i put the battery in (phone is swithed off) the screen lashes and the keyboard has back light in the same pattern as above and the left side flickers sometimes + when i short press the power button the screen gets backlight.

I also noticed last night, that when i plug in the wall charger with the battery out the orange led flashes once with the right side of keyboard and screen for like fracture of a second. So that possibly says that something is fryed on the motherboard?
The bad root fs could also explain it?

Unfortunatly i havent got the meter to check the battery, but i got the charger today and im in the middle of charging, but still w8ing for the seperate batery.

Also got an info on other forum that flashing with ATF BOX could help buti dont thinks so as the flasher flashes correctly.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-04 09:34

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Would it be worth your while just biting your tounge, selling it for parts or spares & repairs on the bay and get yourself another used one?

Craig

prezes2117 2011-06-04 12:14

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1022106)
Would it be worth your while just biting your tounge, selling it for parts or spares & repairs on the bay and get yourself another used one?

Craig

U know what......, I am actually thinking about it:rolleyes:

prezes2117 2011-06-04 20:31

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
the cols flash doesn't work on my n900

prezes2117 2011-06-04 20:51

Re: HELP pls N900 loads only to Nokia logo but diffirent!!!
 
1 Attachment(s)
Got it in to cold flash, but can someone tell why it failed???
Here is the screen pic:


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