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CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 09:53

N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Alright guys,

Well it would seem my N900 is dead.

I received a phone call, answered fine, was talking away...

All of a sudden it just started vibrating vigarously, screen went black and then just went off.

Now it does nothing at all 100% dead.

No lights, no charge - Compleatly dead.

Can't get it warrentied (tried already)

because i am fed up of reinstalling and reinstalling apps everytime its died on me(this is my 3rd n900) What would you guys recommend i get next?

I am thinking android, but with a keyboard...Not lets not go Desire Z (hear too many bad things about them)

Craig

Temporal 2011-06-07 09:55

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
3 n900? What did you do with them? Power kernel+5000mhz on dying profile?!

stew-b 2011-06-07 09:56

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
galaxy s2 and install swype :)

ToJa92 2011-06-07 10:01

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
I'm going for a Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro once it's released, though it has a smaller screen(3"), it does have a keyboard. Unfortunately it has a capacitive screen, but painting on such a small screen wouldn't make sense anyway.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:01

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
@Temporal: One died because of my stupidity in flashing, second was sent back because of the USB port and this one for some unknown random reason...Not my luck eh?

@stew-b: I wasn't aware the Salaxy s2 had a HW keybord?

stew-b 2011-06-07 10:03

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
it doesnt but looking at videos of swype in action looks like you could type just as fast if not faster when you get the hang of it,i was also looking for a hw keyboard android device but swype may just sway it for me...

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:07

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stew-b (Post 1023930)
it doesnt but looking at videos of swype in action looks like you could type just as fast if not faster when you get the hang of it,i was also looking for a hw keyboard android device but swype may just sway it for me...

Its not just typing.

When i do type i have a tendancy to 'touch type', I just can't get the hand of it on a touch scree,

The other thing is screen space,

Fianlly playing games, i do play a few games and like to have physical buttons and not have my big fingers covering half the screen :D

Craig

cloudstrife1ph 2011-06-07 10:16

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
can you still hard reset it?

LTman 2011-06-07 10:25

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
reflah the the phone and next time use a piece o f software called backup-menu it backs up the n900 root filesytem so when you reflash the phone next time (or flash the phone replacement) you just restore you old system instead starting from scratch so all you apps settings and everything else will be there

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:25

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudstrife1ph (Post 1023938)
can you still hard reset it?

Cannot do anything, it doesn't even turn on.

No LED when you put it on charge, nothing.

Craig

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:27

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LTman (Post 1023941)
reflah the the phone and next time use a piece o f software called backup-menu it backs up the n900 root filesytem so when you reflash the phone next time (or flash the phone replacement) you just restore you old system instead starting from scratch so all you apps settings and everything else will be there

The phone is 100% dead, i cannot reflash it.

Hypothetically speaking if i got another N900 it wouldn't be thebacking up(as really i know i should have done it) but the faffing about this time round i would have to get it how i want again :(

Craig

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:28

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
What would it be worth as 'spares / Repairs' The parts are all in tact (physically) i.e. Screen, Keyboard, Camera modual etc.

Craig

cloudstrife1ph 2011-06-07 10:33

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
how about removing the battery and putting it back? or better yet, borrow the same type of battery from someone...leave it alone for a day perhaps?

i just can't believe that something is broken without messing something in the first place. unless you really overclocked it to 5 ghz...lol

so putting the usb cable while pressing "u" in the hw keyboard is not working?

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:41

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudstrife1ph (Post 1023952)
how about removing the battery and putting it back? or better yet, borrow the same type of battery from someone...leave it alone for a day perhaps?

i just can't believe that something is broken without messing something in the first place. unless you really overclocked it to 5 ghz...lol

so putting the usb cable while pressing "u" in the hw keyboard is not working?

The phones been left for a few days, battery charged on an external charger and tested its perfect, still charges to full capacity.

When you plug the charger in Nothing happens at all, no LED no screen dead.

I sometims OC'd when playing a game to 800mhz, but at the time of death it wasn't.

Its like there is no power at all getting to the phone no matter the battery/connection type.

Craig

geneven 2011-06-07 10:42

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1023945)
What would it be worth as 'spares / Repairs' The parts are all in tact (physically) i.e. Screen, Keyboard, Camera modual etc.

Craig

Since it's essentially a piece of trash, I would make a generous offer of $75 for it. Then you can go on with your life.

droll 2011-06-07 10:43

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
sell it for spare parts??

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:46

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1023956)
Since it's essentially a piece of trash, I would make a generous offer of $75 for it. Then you can go on with your life.

For the US thats a good offer, the only downside is am a UK lad so shipping would be a killer, and seeing as the pound is stronger than the dollar, that converts to a little under hald (so your offer would be about £30 in my money) less shipping (about £15)...leave me about £15:eek: haha.

Shame other wise i would have taken you up on that.

Might be best for an ebay jobbie.

Craig

dr_frost_dk 2011-06-07 10:50

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1023958)
For the US thats a good offer, the only downside is am a UK lad so shipping would be a killer, and seeing as the pound is stronger than the dollar, that converts to a little under hald (so your offer would be about £30 in my money) less shipping (about £15)...leave me about £15:eek: haha.

Shame other wise i would have taken you up on that.

Might be best for an ebay jobbie.

Craig

EDIT: sorry meant 75 dollar
to Denmark

maxximuscool 2011-06-07 10:52

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Do you want to sell it to me CraigRobo.
I want to get the camera Unit on it. My camera Unit lense got dirty by the service place and taking pretty terrible image because of the lense coating got smudged.

If I can buy just the camera Unit then I'm happy :) other wise everything even more happy.

Sell to me cheap cheap cheap :)

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 10:53

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 1023964)
Do you want to sell it to me CraigRobo.
I want to get the camera Unit on it. My camera Unit lense got dirty by the service place and taking pretty terrible image because of the lense coating got smudged.

If I can buy just the camera Unit then I'm happy :) other wise everything even more happy.

Sell to me cheap cheap cheap :)

I wouldn't even know how to remove it haha.

Judging by Ebay the going price is between £80-£120

Craig

maxximuscool 2011-06-07 10:57

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1023965)
I wouldn't even know how to remove it haha.

Judging by Ebay the going price is between £80-£120

Craig

Yeah I would pay for it. But i only need the camera :(
Anyone else want to money pull? I would happily pay $35NZD for the camera Unit :D

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 15:29

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
For som REALLY bizzar reason - It started to work again after a few days :S wtf...

The only thing is that the phone thinks the battery is always dead even if its fully charged(i used it externally and it charged to a little over 1250mah) So it can't be the battery?

The back-up menu software, can anyone tell me how it works please, i have never used it before.
Craig

abill_uk 2011-06-07 15:38

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
I was going to jump in erlier on and tell you that no way is that device dead by what you said on this thread but i would love to know what the last thing you installed? or maybe it has a battery connection fault.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 15:40

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Oh backup is easy, just go there choose where you want the backup to be and away you go.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 15:42

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1024268)
Oh backup is easy, just go there choose where you want the backup to be and away you go.

It gave me a warning i was a little concerned about.

I have to boot into it from restert, its not going to effect powerkernal is it?

Craig

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 15:46

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1024266)
I was going to jump in erlier on and tell you that no way is that device dead by what you said on this thread but i would love to know what the last thing you installed? or maybe it has a battery connection fault.

For 3 days it was compleatly dead. Nothing yadda not a thing i tried everything imagineable (i'm not a total noob;))

However, the battery although full charges externally and discharges fine externally, once placed into the phone, seems to think its dead :confused:

Maybe somthing in the battery or charging curcitry

Craig

abill_uk 2011-06-07 15:56

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
I think you just hit the nail on the head in the power kernel, if you can get the device back to workshop state your problems might be over unless you have a battery connection fault there so check where the battery connects to the 3 pins and in the battery you have 3 sprung connectors, if one of them had been opened too wide it will not make contact with the 3 pins on the device so worth a check.
Also check the 3 pins to see if anything loose there.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 15:58

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1024281)
I think you just hit the nail on the head in the power kernel, if you can get the device back to workshop state your problems might be over unless you have a battery connection fault there so check where the battery connects to the 3 pins and in the battery you have 3 sprung connectors, if one of them had been opened too wide it will not make contact with the 3 pins on the device so worth a check.
Also check the 3 pins to see if anything loose there.

Already done & checked, its all good :D

Craig

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:03

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1024284)
Already done & checked, its all good :D

Craig

Then take it to Nokia care because you aint done nothing wrong to invalidate your warranty.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-07 16:27

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Any links on how to use 'backup menu' i did a seach but couldn't find anything

Craig

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:38

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ghlight=backup

http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ghlight=backup

Have a look at that lot.

~phoenix~ 2011-06-08 09:15

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
do u want to sell it??

CraigRobbo 2011-06-08 10:12

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ~phoenix~ (Post 1024861)
do u want to sell it??

Make me an offer, Shoot me a PM

CraigRobbo 2011-06-08 23:47

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Okay, its dead again, same thing - Mid phone call it started vibrating like mad and died.

Okay here is how it is now

If the battery is in, nothing, plug it in to charge nothing. HOWEVER if i take the battery out with the charger plugged in i get an orange LED!

The battery is not dead because i charged it on an external charger...

ideas?

Craig

abill_uk 2011-06-09 00:08

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigRobbo (Post 1025431)
Okay, its dead again, same thing - Mid phone call it started vibrating like mad and died.

Okay here is how it is now

If the battery is in, nothing, plug it in to charge nothing. HOWEVER if i take the battery out with the charger plugged in i get an orange LED!

The battery is not dead because i charged it on an external charger...

ideas?

Craig

If the led lights up orange with no battery inserted then you have got a hardware fault for sure, get it back to Nokia.

Only way to prove it is to flash it back to stock.

CraigRobbo 2011-06-09 16:29

Re: N900 Dead again - This time for real.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1025438)
If the led lights up orange with no battery inserted then you have got a hardware fault for sure, get it back to Nokia.

Only way to prove it is to flash it back to stock.

Started working again this morning :mad: this thing is driving me mad, i went to take it back this morning and decided to start working when i got there...What a fool i looked.


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