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marktold 2011-06-21 06:18

The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Now that we know what the N9 brings - lets start hoping for the N950!

N900 features missing on N9
- qwertz keybord
- customizable screen (contacts mostly - fast access)
- some widgets - Calander
- FM transmitter (listen to internet radio in car - no bluetooth on radio)
- Stylus (I know no multitouch but the stylus is simply the best)
N900 features that are not that importand missing on N9
- IR Port
- Lens Cover
- Kick Stand
N9 Features probably better then N900
- Battery life
- Camera MP and speed
- Design (weight)
- Maps and Navigation for Sure
- Browser maybe
- If Flash 10.x then Flash

What I am looking for in N950
N900
+ Dual Core processor
+ Flash 10.x support
+ Bigger screen 4" or more
+ Bigger resolution 1024 x 768 would be nice
+ Slimmer but slighly bigger

Markus

attila77 2011-06-21 06:22

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Note that the N950 is the developer device for the N9, thus not much different in ways that would require porting or special adaptations.

From https://www.developer.nokia.com/info...ase_Notes.html

Nokia N950 phone hardware specification
=======================================

Nokia N950 phone uses same hardware components as the Nokia N9 phone
with the following exceptions:

* N950 is physically larger and is made out of aluminum, whereas N9 has
a polycarbonate unibody.
* N950 has a physical slide-out QWERTY keyboard. The N9 is a touchscreen
-only device.
* N950 has a 4” TFT LCD display whereas N9 has 3.9” AMOLED display.
Display resolution is same on both devices (854x480). Due to the use
of different display technologies, developers should avoid one pixel
with fonts and graphical objects with lines one pixel wide. Also avoid
the extensive use of bright colors, especially white, when developing
for OLED displays as this increases the power consumption (typical
for OLED displays).
* N950 has a different physical camera module than N9. Both camera
modules have very similar image quality (Carl Zeiss branding in N9)
and both modules support 8Mpix image mode.
* In the N950 the front facing camera is in top right corner and on N9
it is in the bottom right corner. The actual camera module is same.
* N950 supports Bluetooth version 2.1+EDR, whereas N9 supports
version 4.0
* N950 does not have support for NFC
* N9 has slightly more sensitive magnetometer and ALS
* N950 has 1320mAh battery, the N9 has 1450mAh battery

SAABoy 2011-06-21 06:24

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
lol @ thread name

riceboy 2011-06-21 06:34

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Wow that was quick haha

HELLASISGREECE 2011-06-21 06:44

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Yeah baby, that's what I'm talking about.
This is the REAL N900 successor.

StefanL 2011-06-21 06:45

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Both (N9 and N950) come with OMAP3.

More details:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4461/n...atop-omap-3630

I am getting me one each :P; it's time my useless N8 (great camera - crap phone) went to a better home.

ruskie 2011-06-21 06:53

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
My main question is... can I order one from Nokia without being in a secret club?

cloudstrife1ph 2011-06-21 06:58

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
is the keyboard's design like the n900 and moto milestones or is it like the n97 / sidekick 4g that has angle gimmicks?

AlMehdi 2011-06-21 07:10

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
The N950 are higher on my wish list than the N9 to speak the truth... but why are they always doing this! They should have gone with same harware as the N900 just upgraded them. The 1024 RAM is really nice from the 256 in the N900....

9000 2011-06-21 07:24

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruskie (Post 1034183)
My main question is... can I order one from Nokia without being in a secret club?

The first rule is you do not talk about N950....:D

IIRC Nokia did sell N900 developer version openly, quite expensive at time but at least it's pretty well packaged.

qwazix 2011-06-21 07:32

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Multitouch and resistive is a go. 89 dollar China tablets got it. I still believe it can be faked good enough through SW.

volt 2011-06-21 07:55

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Either way, at this place in time, we should be able to expect some hardware innovation. Pressure sensitive capacitive or hybrid, I don't care, but pressure sensitive somehow. Is ability to accurately measure pressure better than just touch? Yes. Is ability to use with gloves better than not? Yes. Is better better than more hyped? Yes.

Anyway, I'll shamelessly plug my view on how Nokia should've done it. Based on the E7 page, I imagined THIS configuration page:

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1308615083

vi_ 2011-06-21 08:02

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Step 1. -- Join developer program.
Step 2. -- ???
Step 3. -- N950.

If you consider that the N9 Doesn't even have FCC approval yet and the N950 does, one could logically assume that the N950 will be released imminently in order to facilitate development for the forthcoming N9.

Now consider this, you have two different devices aimed at two different groups of people. N9 for people who complain about lack of flash 10 with loltweets on their faceblog. N950 for the hardcore amongst us who just want xterm. Don't release N950 as a consumer device and you won't need to provide consumer support.

Also, consider it has taken almost 2 years to get the N900 to where it is today. Both of these devices are going to suck on release.

marktold 2011-06-21 08:17

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
I hold various domains for different purposes one of them is n950.com

I could route it to this thread :-) This would make this thread really epic having its own domain :-)

Markus

mivoligo 2011-06-21 09:11

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Do you guys think it'd be possible to flash N900 with N950 image from http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/...kFlashers.html

vkthor 2011-06-21 09:16

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
No flash support, no FM transmitter, no widespread market... This isn't what I was hoping for...

ossipena 2011-06-21 09:20

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1034255)
If you consider that the N9 Doesn't even have FCC approval yet and the N950 does, one could logically assume that the N950 will be released imminently in order to facilitate development for the forthcoming N9.

N9 may not be sold in the US..

volt 2011-06-21 09:21

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
It's a shame though, I would rather have bought this one. As it looks now, I don't think I'm going to be a part of Maemo generation 6.

JohnLF 2011-06-21 09:34

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 1034132)
* N950 has a different physical camera module than N9.
* In the N950 the front facing camera is in top right corner and on N9
it is in the bottom right corner. The actual camera module is same.

Conflicting info here???

ossipena 2011-06-21 09:39

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLF (Post 1034384)
Conflicting info here???

different cameras? front cam and back cam

ruskie 2011-06-21 09:40

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLF (Post 1034384)
Conflicting info here???

One is for the normal the other for the front.

sneeze 2011-06-21 10:03

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
I guess everyone has seen this?

"To aid the speedy development of apps for the Nokia N9 smartphone, Nokia has produced a limited number of developer phones, the Nokia N950 phone. This phone isn't available for purchase and can only be obtained through selected developer programs, such as Nokia Developer LaunchPad."

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/MeeGo/

blackjack4it 2011-06-21 10:29

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mivoligo (Post 1034351)
Do you guys think it'd be possible to flash N900 with N950 image from http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/...kFlashers.html

I think that we can't flash the N950 OS image directly..we will need to "adapt" something like drivers for example :)

In my humple opinion, I think that Is possible with some tweaks..

F2thaK 2011-06-21 10:33

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
the N9 is the successor to the N8, hence the similar names

blackjack4it 2011-06-21 10:35

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1034466)
the N9 is the successor to the N8, hence the similar names

I think not, the N8 is Symbian while the N9 is Meego

blackjack4it 2011-06-21 10:48

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Do anyone know if there is a leak of the N9 or the N950 OS around the internet? We could open a Thread to begin a concept of porting..

NIN101 2011-06-21 10:53

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/

dansus 2011-06-21 11:42

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
N950 with Fremantle sounds pretty epic right now, plus the N9 with Hartman and i would have everything i need.

Darkshine 2011-06-21 11:49

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
It's very disappointing that the N950 seems to be unbuyable, as it's a dream device for me. Oh well, grass is always greener an' all that..

Frappacino 2011-06-21 11:50

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkshine (Post 1034555)
It's very disappointing that the N950 seems to be unbuyable, as it's a dream device for me. Oh well, grass is always greener an' all that..

I am sure some will show up on ebay

be prepared to pay $$$ though

ossipena 2011-06-21 12:04

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 1034558)
I am sure some will show up on ebay

be prepared to pay $$$ though

only problem is that afaik 100% of all available units are leased...

volt 2011-06-21 12:05

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackjack4it (Post 1034472)
I think not, the N8 is Symbian while the N9 is Meego

Quote:

Originally Posted by several sources, (pre-elopocalypse) june 2010
Nokia has confirmed that its upcoming N8 smartphone will be the last N-series device to use the Symbian platform, with the Finnish firm basing future handsets in the series solely on MeeGo from then on.

I would say that the N8 and the N9 is meant to overlap, not succeed each other. As it is now, the N9 is more of a competitor to the N8 than the N900.

Frappacino 2011-06-21 12:10

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1034581)
only problem is that afaik 100% of all available units are leased...

oh ? i havent read the stuff on the dev program yet...

so its not a give away ?

hah - just like Nokia.

Based on the number of N900 sold they should have a rough idea what the demand for N950 is.... could have made a small batch to sell to some of the more desperate here...

marktold 2011-06-21 12:14

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Starting this thread I was hopping for a N950 to be even better then the N900 since I have not found a phone that matches the N900 yet.

After just a couple of post I must read that the phone is for developers only and all my dreams a shattered.

Sad moment

Markus

PS: What would you think about a open letter to Nokia on my site www.n950.com where people would sign with name, country and a short comment begging Nokia to make a better N900 available to consumers.

jnack95 2011-06-21 12:19

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

volt 2011-06-21 12:21

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marktold (Post 1034594)
Starting this thread I was hopping for a N950 to be even better then the N900 since I have not found a phone that matches the N900 yet.

After just a couple of post I must read that the phone is for developers only and all my dreams a shattered.

Sad moment

Markus

I call that a 'DMC-FZ50' moment. Sometimes a product line ends at it's peak, not after it's been surpassed. Selling better devices does not mean better profit.

volt 2011-06-21 12:25

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnack95 (Post 1034604)
I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

Official MMS support.

Frappacino 2011-06-21 12:26

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
markus, like i said Nokia knows the approx demand for the N950 based on N900 selling numbers

they have chosen not to make it available, so a petition will do nothing

LTman 2011-06-21 12:54

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
pssst this thread isnt epic



.......
unlees you are a longtime maemo/meego dev

Daneel 2011-06-21 12:58

Re: The EPIC N950 anticipation thread
 
If i could just plug more ram on my N900 i would be set for the next 5 years.


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