N9 or samsung galaxy s ii
 

HELLO and good morning....

i need an opinion which phone should i choose between n9 and samsung galaxy s 11.....thanks...

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i am on the same.

i am leaning for n9 cuz i like the interface. and galaxy 2 likely remain more expensive.


galaxy 2 have 1080p video, flash video support in browsers.

and apps i am forced to use like live profile, whatsapp.

but n9 nicer camera, better ui, faster, more realistic battery life, dual LED flash and WAY better multitask.
and many apps i like from n900 will carry over.

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just get both.

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yes n9 doesn't take 1080p videos, but who needs it?? it will only take all ur storage space. plus, I have sgs 1.. camera is a real crap.. i doubt sgs 2 will be the same..

another one.. default browser of n9 will not support flash video on it, but Fennec(firefox) will definitely have Flash support on it. :)

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If the S^3 whatsapp is Qt based, guess they might port it.

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Get the N9 (if you can). Living in nl, uk, fr, se, ger you apparently will not get it.

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Do you need to make a decision NOW ?

If so, is FOSS THAT important to you ? IF yes, get the N9.

If not, WAIT until you have a chance to try the N9 for yourself. You will NOT be able to make a proper decision on how "sexah" a UI is until you get your hands on it.

In terms of apps - well - you have NFI what apps will get ported for N9, so you cant do a comparison either

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If you want android then just get other android phone.. youll save more.. plus, who needs dual-core 1.2GHz Samsung Orion processor?? No one needs dual core if your phone doesn't shot any lag( like n9) compare to android using dual cores and it still lags..

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Are these samsung orion processors INFERIOR compared to Texas Instrument processors used by Nokia?

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no, they are the same A8-A9 series , only difference its chipset , TI is the best in battery life. reason nokia use it.

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It might be due to the way Android handles processes on dual-core system. Say a flash streaming playing smooth on Xoom (honeycomb) but it would behave laggy in Optimus 2X (Froyo). Looks like Froyo doesn't really harness the full power of its dual-core.

S2 is running on Gingerbread, I'm not sure whether it has sorted out the said issues.

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video its generally done by the gpu.

any 1ghz chip with a good gpu can play 1080p easily.

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You can buy Nokia N9 because its features are the best..You can see all features on this website:www.mobiledealsstore.co.uk/nokia-n9.html

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the overall hardware is better on sgs 2: it’s not only the dual core cpu, but also hdmi with 1080p playback, usb-otg...
the ux of the n9 is much better, but keep in mind that android icecream sandwich will have different ux than 2.3. and there are rumors samsung is going to update the hardware of sgs 2 and release this device in september.

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They say it has hw keyboard and show a N950 and at least in the key features they say the OS is Symbian 3, so its totally wrong what is written there.

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Yeah really good link for the specs
" this smart phone which works on Symbian^3 Operating System. "

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Wait for actual profesional reviews of both to come out.
Try both and see what you like.

The choice now heavily advantages the SGSII, so just wait you could get "the buyers remorse".

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i need a keyboard so none of them will do for me.

(unless they make a case with a bluetooth sliding out keyboard like the iphone 4 ):)

sorry bit off topic but iphone 5 is doing it for me. although nothing is confirmed just that i asked t-mobile they said early next year...

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"Has free navigation software: SGSII: Yes vs N9: No

Free navigation software with free map data and updates included, no need to buy an dedicated navigation device"

lulwut?

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^ that simple ^

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N9 because its from Nokia and MeeGo which is step from Maemo and everyone know how great Maemo is

Samsung because we know Nokia is not going to support it, Maemo 5 is an example but Android us typically created for a typical hardware or vice versa but the point is you will potentially have to throw yout galaxy away once a newer version of Android is released.... I may be wrong but the experience so far suggests so...

comming bank to Nokia N9, it has some cool features such as swipe and multitasking that is truely multitasking.

Android has heaps of applications but it seems that N9 will have enough as well because Nokia is running a couple of competitions to get the apps developed and spending millions on it.

Good luck!

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I have a samsung galaxy S2 - and did a review on my website.

It is stunning, has a few quirks, but overall i think it rocks. Would still love to see an n9 - but if you are happy using swype and dont need a hardware keyboard, and want a new phone now, the SGS2 is your best option :)

(However, the reviews of the N9 look amazing, so if you can wait... try out both in a shop first!) :)

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The N9 has free Navigation
http://swipe.nokia.com/features/

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I'm eager to pick the Nokia N9 but because there is no company backing the N9 (and it still have proprietary interface) I'm afraid it may be left for dead like the N900.

At least Android has a huge market share and backing and is being updated often.

It's a tough decision and I'm swayed both ways from day to day.

I think I'm still leaning towards the N9.

Which is cheaper I wonder?

Some useful insights into this decision would be appreciated.

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Yeah I know. Just got a little frustrated at the vs. page that listed free navigation as a pro for the SGSII vs. N9 which according to them had no free navigation. I commented on the page and they changed the info tho so it's ok now :)

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I just picked up my Galaxy S II yesterday afternoon from T-Mobile (since Nokia broke my N900 :mad:)

And honestly I am disappointed. Yes it has one of the best screens in the world, dual core processor, 1GB ram (really 833MB and just on standby 290-300 is already used), yes it has 1080p recording and the camera is truly amazing.

But I'm not impressed with the multi-tasking at all, its very tedious to switch between apps, go from one app to the other, and closing apps also gets annoying after the 100th time of holding the home button, then click task manager, then click exit all, or manually exit the ones you want to close.

Honestly I just miss the simple "x" in the top right corner of the app thumbnail. The n9 will have multi tasking similar to the n900, so if thats the kind of multi tasking you prefer then wait for the n9.

The S2 has similar mutli tasking to my iPhone 4, its annoying for me but if you dont mind it then in terms of specs/hardware the S2 is a much better phone.

But I personally would prefer and get the Nokia N9, I am thinking of returning my S2 because thats how much I miss my N900. Also the lack of hardware keyboard makes entering long emails and texts stupidly annoying, and the virtual keyboard takes up most of the screen, especially in landscape mode!

At least with the iphone you could close the virtual keyboard both in protrait and landscape, by hitting the empty area above it, that way if you had a bluetooth keyboard, you could use that with a full iPhone 4 screen.

With the S2 there is NO way to close the virtual keyboard when you click a text box in the browser. It will stay open until you click outside of the text box, in which case you cannot type. So having a bluetooth keyboard is kinda pointless since most of your screen is always covered with the virtual keyboard. I like the fact that my iPhone 4 at least allows the option of closing Virtual Keyboard if I want to.


I am disappointed with the android market as well, apps are very similar to iOS market but alot more expensive. Plus alot of the paid apps have authorising issues which many users have been experiencing, their cards get charged but the app gets stuck on authorising card, so they dont ever get their app. There is no real fix for this issue, most people suffer from it and only some have resolved it themselves with no support from google so far.

Honestly, the hardware specs on the S2 are amazing - camera, processor, ram etc. etc. etc.

But the operating system seems like a cheap knock off iOS, with open source customizablity.

Well I would rather have a closed source iOS phone anyday, I'll gladly sacrifice the customization of the home screen in exchange for a stable and working market. Any customization the Android 2.3.3 offers can be obtained on iOS by apps or jailbreaking.

So honestly if you're gonna get an SGS2, get an iPhone 4 instead.

Also I miss my MicoB Browser on N900 and even the iPhone 4's Safari browser is much better than that on the SGS2! I don't know if you can get safari on android since I am new to the OS, but I will definitely find out if I can get it.

The phone overall feels to big to fit in one hand comfortably, so often you use two hands where you would use one. Personally I prefer a perfectly clear 3.5 inch screen or 3.9 inch like on the N9 without the home button, so that the phone itself does not increase in size. The galaxy S2's 4.3 inch screen is so impressive but it makes the phone too big for me to care!

Or take the best option, wait for an N9, becuase that will trule be the best alternative for any N900 user. I am not saying the N9 will be better than an N900, it lacks many things that the N900 can do, but it would be a worthy alternative for a regular N900 user looking to update their phone.

From experience my iPhone 4 and SGS2 do not impress me anywhere near as much as my N900 did, and I really wish I still had it! So I will definitely be waiting for the N9 and probaly just return the S2 as I have 7 days to change my mind.

Hope this helps!

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Are you insane, the Galaxy SII browser is by far the fastest on the market right now. it has been bench tested on many review sites.

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I tried to answer the same question for me a vew weeks back, and now I'm playing with my SGS2 (beside my loved N900)

+ Screen is amazing (just get the SuperAmolded+, not the SuperClearLCD !)
+ Speed is stunning, with no doubt much faster than N900
+ Camera is WAY better than N900 (and way better than SGS1's)
+ 1080p recording (looks great on my 65" Plasma)
+ MHL (HDMI out with USB)
+ USB OTG
+ "Billions" of Apps (I really appreciate the hard work of the community here, but why is it ONLY the Community supporting the N900 ???). Nokia has to proof that they will support Harmattan/Meego, I doubt it
+ Free navigation included (Nokia was promising it for N900 in my Country, but nothing happened 'til today)
+ Google-Sync included (Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Picasa, Gmail, Google+, ...) - never loose my Data again
+ Front Facing Camera supportet (Videocall, Skype (Skype only via the XDA-Hack at the moment, because SGS2 is supportet since last Skype-Update but not enabled at the moment))
+ many other features onboard wich you can use with N900 (N9 ?) only with the help of the community
+ Updates (!), Android 4.0 is on the way (Gingerbread + Honeycomb = Ice Cream Sandwich)
+ Call-Log much better than N900's (overall list and individual contacts, including SMS ...)
+ Updates work much better (faster) - just decide auto/manually Update for your Apps, and there is absolutely no lag like on N900 where you have to wait for minutes after pushing the notification
+ Office Documents viewing AND editing from stock (Polaris Office)
+ superb browser with flash 10.3 support
+ very good Support-Forum (XDA), similar to TMO

-/+ no hardware keyboard was my biggest concern, but after a month of using the really good virtual-keyboard I'm faster than on the N900
-/+ no Camera Shutter, but it's Gorilla-Glass I found out, and also there will never again be a dusty lens
-/+ Akku has to be charged every evening (with Wifi/GPS/Skype/Weather App/RSS/Mail/Background-Sync always on, Browsing, Maps, Calling), but this is not much difference to my N900, from my feeling the N900 has given up earlier

- Wifi-quality lacks a little bit (N900 finds more networks and has better signal) - maybe the next update will solve this "problem" (not really a problem at home with strong signal)
- only one Speaker at the backside means no stereo-quality, and if you place your phone on the couch backside down you will hear nothing
- I had some unexpected Reboots so far, and still did't exactly find out what causes them (something to do with Samsung TouchWiz and the Stock-Apps), but decided to wait for the first big update before rooting and freezing/deleting all the crappy Stock-Apps


The SGS2 has been crowned as the best Android-Device so far from Engadget and other Sites:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/s...y-s-ii-review/

If you're not in hurry, I would wait for the first hands-on's on N9 and the still rumored Update of SGS2/SGS3 in fall

My decition was clear because I was very impressed by N900's hardware, but also very dissapointet by Nokia's epic fail in support and their broken promises (once again, after my N95 - the first Nokia device with GPS, was the one wich didn't get the free Ovimaps). May Elop rot in hell for eternity :mad:

@ Prozac 786

You didn't get the way how multitasking works on Android, did you ? There is NO need to close Apps, NO need for Taskkiller's, Android will close Apps by Priority when the System runs out of memory. The Home-Butten is equivalent to X-Button on N900, but there are also many Apps you can close completely by "Menu" -> "Exit"/"Quit"/"End"

For closing Text-Boxes in Browser just click the Back-Button ;)

CU - M_99

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of course the galaxy 2 is superior to the n900 in many aspects. But we're talking about the N9 here people! How could you possibly prefer the g2 over a new sexy meego phone? ;)

No way google is gonna get may data, cancelled my gmail account years ago.

I know how it works and it just plain sucks.

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I think what most of us N900 fans would upgrade directly to is a Samsung Galaxy SII only if it:
1) Got a hardware tilt/slide qwerty
2) Got actual multitasking
3) Got (officially/unofficially) support for QML/Qt framework

... any one of those options and I see most of us (inc. me) moving on to it, or if it had all three then all of us would :D

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I'm not sure what real multitasking is then. I would say that the multitasking on my SII is good. It lets me switch between both running apps and recently used apps. It lets me end running apps and when doing all these things it is a smooth process that doesnt disrupt anything i dont want it to.

The developer support from xda and other places is amazing. There are a number of roms. Some aim at faster OS although the phone is rocket fast already and some aim at improving battery life or just making things look better.

Its the best phonne i have had since my N900.

Add to the above that Samsung just gifted around 4 SIIs to the cyanogen mod team on xda and you have corporate support for voloubteer devs. That's better than what Nokia did when i had my beloved N900.

You are right about the hardware keyboard but I got used to not having it and dont miss it. I used to curse phones without hard keyboards lol

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It's possible to develop Qt applications for Android. Necessitas should return the desired result.

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GS2 vs N9 is actually an interesting face-off, because if we put application support aside for a change (you can prefer almost any other phone over the N9 if that is your priority), this really comes down to one thing:

Are you all about specs or the experience? This pretty much goes through the entire spec list:

CPU (+Battery)
GS2 has the faster CPU, but N9 UI is at least as responsive and has no additional Java layer. In other words, the N9 does more with less. But the GS2 still packs the brute force, if you require it for a specific reason...

Screen
Bigger is not better in mobile phones... So it is weird to book this as a GS2 advantage. The N9 has a huge screen for its form factor, easily beating the iPhone which comes at a comparable form factor. Not to mention the slightly higher resolution on the N9.

Tablets are not superior to phones because they have a larger screen, they are just different. And so the GS2 is different as well.

Shape
It is true the the GS2 is thinner at its peak, but what does that really matter? The N9 doesn't look nearly as thick as its spec makes it sound like (which is already fairly thin), due to the curved shape which tapers out at about 7mm on the ends. The peak of 12mm is only reached at the very center of the body. Furthermore, everything is smooth and rounded, which means that it fits perfectly in the hand and slides effortlessly in and out of pockets. It got the looks and function, what more could you possibly want from it?

The GS2 is not nearly as comfortable to hold with its hard angles, even if it wouldn't be as big as it is.

UI
You already know about that. The important thing here is not that MeeGo is a pretty cool foundation, or that the Harmattan UI does a few things here and there more elegantly than Android. The really important thing is that it was developed in conjunction with the hardware, and takes full advantage of its ergonomic properties. The most obvious being the swipe gesture with the curved, beveled screen and button-less front, which is a killer feature in itself.


Bottom line, if you just look at the numbers, GS2 beats the N9 hands down. If you actually use both devices, the story is very different. So you get to choose between specs or experience.

And for this reason, I strongly suggest everybody (who is looking for a phone like the N9, not a more tablet like device or an app ecosystem) to wait until it is out and to see what reviewers have to say about it after using it for a while. This is not something you can properly evaluate just from reading the specs.

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You have an iPhone? Enough said.

I don´t own a SG S2, but it´s by far the best device out there at the moment, in every comparison against the iPhone 4 it basically rapes it.

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I don't care about bench tested or speed. Yes its tremendously fast.

But try using it to type a long message on talk-maemo for example and you will see how stupidly annoying this widely bench tested browser is.

And how simple the Micro-B browser makes the same task. Even safari is easier to type with on the brower.

I have all three of these devices (well N900 is dead but had it for over 18 months) and currently have the SGS2 and iPhone 4.

I do find the SGS2 browser stupidly annoying when browsing and the fact that it will ALWAYS show websites in mobile view without the possibilty of changing it. So unless the site has an option that you can click to get out of mobile view, you're stuck.

This is my personal experience and opinion. Others may not mind this sort of functionality. But I personally hate it and would rather go for the N9.

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Enough said? lol stereo typical. Not every iPhone owner is a blind iSheep.

Anyways, I prefer the iPhone over the SGS2, you prefer the opposite thats fine. But dont just disregard my opinion just becuase I own an iphone lol..

And I bought the iPhone to test and compare it to the N900 and because I can afford to own multiple devices just on impulse.

Anyway, I have an iPhone but I still think the N900 destroys every phone available today. Based on your comment I should NOT be unable to think this way becuase I have an iPhone lol....

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I think you should give Android a fair chance and LEARN how to use it like you did with Maemo ;)
There IS a possibility to change websites to Desktop-Mode in every Android Browser. Just type "about:useragent" at the Adressbar and select the prefered Browser-Behavior of your SGS2 (Galaxy S, Iphone, Desktop, Lismore, Nexus One, Custom) ;)
There is also a hack to permanently use the selected Browsermode, and other Browsers (like Dolphin I think) not even need this hack.

CU - M_99

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Well said dude. I have an ipod touch 4gen and I love it (only for the apps n that gorgeous screen). n900 is more of a computer than a phone - it will beat my crappy netbook hands down.

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I have to say that after i am moved to galaxy s2 i can never go back. The speed is amazing, 1080p flash kn broswer smooth as butter. Far out, everything of the device is a plus. The only problem is Android doesn't support Khmer language. But the device