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lorul2 2011-06-30 11:50

Develop app on 950 then what?
 
This isn't a rant just an honest question. I'm honestly thrilled that the hardworking, awesome developers here will get an opportunity to use the N950. In my opinion Nokia should let them keep the dev kits. The talent at this site probably sold thousands of N900, not to mention they kept it in the public eye (aka as Engadget) when Nokia was... ahem burning..So here's my question again.

We all know what Elop said about the future of the N9.

So after someone develops an app on the N950 then what will its future be? There is a limited distribution of N9s, Nokia is backing away from Meego. How many meego phones will be produced? Has all the Meego phones that will ever be made been made?

Just trying to understand the strategy with these new phones...

Rugoz 2011-06-30 12:22

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Lol, you're spot on. I don't understand the point of the N950 either. Maybe they want a few apps so that owners of the n9 will not be too pissed, and will stay with nokia (and wp7) for the next one.

cfh11 2011-06-30 12:46

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
The point is to promote Qt... it has been mentioned by several sources that this is part of their "next billion" strategy

IcyMoustache 2011-06-30 13:22

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

The point is to promote Qt... it has been mentioned by several sources that this is part of their "next billion" strategy

Come out of dreamworld and back to reality!!!

We all know there are thousands of QT apps for Symbian. Does even one exist on N900????

Estel 2011-06-30 13:33

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
The answer about strategy is simple - there is no strategy at all ;) At least until we start considering, that bouncing from wall to wall (for few years now) is a strategy.

Anyway, it's still good that they decided to "lend" N950 to developers - at least 250 people will have interesting (as a curiosity) device. They could just send them to "utilization" - honestly, would You be surprised?

acrux 2011-06-30 13:48

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1042153)
We all know there are thousands of QT apps for Symbian. Does even one exist on N900????

Actually there are many... :D

Reffyyyy 2011-06-30 14:15

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1042153)
Come out of dreamworld and back to reality!!!

We all know there are thousands of QT apps for Symbian. Does even one exist on N900????

Are you serious? The Enhanced Lockscreen you have installed on your device is a Qt Application, CuteTube-QML is a Qt application.

qwazix 2011-06-30 14:54

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I think he means a QT application ported from symbian. And indeed there may be one but sure they aren't many.

Dave999 2011-06-30 15:08

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lorul2 (Post 1042090)
This isn't a rant just an honest question. I'm honestly thrilled that the hardworking, awesome developers here will get an opportunity to use the N950. In my opinion Nokia should let them keep the dev kits. The talent at this site probably sold thousands of N900, not to mention they kept it in the public eye (aka as Engadget) when Nokia was... ahem burning..So here's my question again.

We all know what Elop said about the future of the N9.

So after someone develops an app on the N950 then what will its future be? There is a limited distribution of N9s, Nokia is backing away from Meego. How many meego phones will be produced? Has all the Meego phones that will ever be made been made?

Just trying to understand the strategy with these new phones...

whats so hard to understand? I dont get it?

jotoco 2011-06-30 15:19

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
The problem I see is that Nokia, or rather, Elop is limiting N9 manucturing to just under a 100k units. Even if there is demand there will not be available phones, so it will never be a success.

This is to prevent it making too much success and making WP7 a bad choice, and it makes n950 obsolete, because there won't be any buyers for apps.

pelago 2011-06-30 15:23

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jotoco (Post 1042233)
The problem I see is that Nokia, or rather, Elop is limiting N9 manucturing to just under a 100k units.

The 92000 number supposedly refers to the numbers of N950s, not the number of N9s. But it's probably not a true number anyway.

jackdoor 2011-06-30 15:28

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Although the N950 is my ideal device, but I don't see how releasing it to developers only helps in any way.

I presume it is so developers start making apps for the N9, if this is the case then why not just give them an N9. I don't see how a developer would benefit from testing apps on a device with hardware differences to their target audience.

Dave999 2011-06-30 15:30

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Smart people in this thread! Watch out...

Master of Gizmo 2011-06-30 15:46

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
C'mon, it's really not that difficult. The company leaders are now officially bound to wp7. They wouldn't be able to promote MeeGo fully even if they wanted. That's why you don't hear much positive about MeeGo from them The team leaders of the MeeGo and qt devisions are very positive of their work. That's why they of course promote them. And the n950? I am pretty sure there either a technical/licensing/regulatory issue that prevents building and selling them. So "lending" units already produced is the only option besides destroying them.

Hey, tt's a huge company struggling. You really can't expect them to have one single clear roadmap ... just be happy with the n9 and n950 as long as they last ...

mscion 2011-06-30 15:47

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jackdoor (Post 1042240)
Although the N950 is my ideal device, but I don't see how releasing it to developers only helps in any way.

I presume it is so developers start making apps for the N9, if this is the case then why not just give them an N9. I don't see how a developer would benefit from testing apps on a device with hardware differences to their target audience.

Maybe giving them the one with the hwkb will make them more productive. Exactly why I want one!

pataphysician 2011-06-30 16:18

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Nokia just wants to spend as little as possible to fulfill their obligations to Intel. The n950 was a device set to be distributed in 2010, that they decided to nix for various reasons, but had already produced units. Since hardware wise they are close enough for development of N9 apps, why waste money giving N9 to developers, when you have existing hardware that is unusable to sell to consumers, but fine for developers of a platform you don't want to spend much money on.

petrelli 2011-06-30 19:34

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Actually, so disappointing. Who is gonna spend time on the N9?

If there isn't any news when the N9 is in the streets, about some kind of future, something like WP will be our main brand, but Nx will be our top of the top, with one device per year, without Meego (because the delays have been too big) but with our Maemo, and blah blah blah

Without something like that, well, actually for the first time I have to say that I'll be with my n900 as long as I can, or perhaps apple gives a really stunning new iphone. Android is just too chaotic for me.

But buying the N9? Why?? I like a lot the phone, but I can't buy it! Not after Elop's words! I mean, it is not an option ... so sad ...

dchky 2011-07-01 08:16

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1042153)
Come out of dreamworld and back to reality!!!

We all know there are thousands of QT apps for Symbian. Does even one exist on N900????

Er, I would have assumed by posting on the TMO website, in an N9XX thread, you would be well versed in the platform. Of course there are QT apps on the N900. Lots of them. QT I guess became popular in Linux very early on because of the license - it was available on Windows as well but it wasn't really free. What makes you think a linux based phone would be lacking in this area? Qt has been around for about 18 years now. It's not new.

pelago 2011-07-01 09:06

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jackdoor (Post 1042240)
I presume it is so developers start making apps for the N9, if this is the case then why not just give them an N9.

Because the N9 isn't yet available, but the N950 is, and apart from the keyboard they are pretty much identical hardware.

Why is this so hard to understand?

IcyMoustache 2011-07-01 13:13

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
sorry guys... for not wording it completely.

i meant there are many amazing apps written in QT for symbian. even after all this "cross platform" crap that we hear, i would doubt even 1% of them are ported to maemo.

marxian 2011-07-01 16:51

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyMoustache (Post 1042773)
sorry guys... for not wording it completely.

i meant there are many amazing apps written in QT for symbian. even after all this "cross platform" crap that we hear, i would doubt even 1% of them are ported to maemo.

That's a question that should aimed at the developers of those Symbian applications. Not all Qt applications are open source. Many of the Symbian Qt applications will be developed under the commercial license. There isn't much of an incentive for the developers to target a platform that is a commercial deadzone. Maemo5 has a relatively small user base, most of whom are used to getting 'free stuff'.

ceroberts75 2011-07-01 17:07

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
just hope theydont create anything that requires a ctrl+shift type of function! :p

jackdoor 2011-07-01 20:06

Re: Develop app on 950 then what?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 1042651)
Because the N9 isn't yet available, but the N950 is, and apart from the keyboard they are pretty much identical hardware.

Why is this so hard to understand?

This still does not explain why the N950 is developer only. Nokia obviously had to plan the creation of the N950 but why not for general sale??


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