[Announce (kinda)] Alpine (CLI email client)
 

I have ported "alpine", as requested by a couple of people over here.

It's a terminal-based email client, I hear it's awesome from those who wanted it ported. Wikipedia says Linus Torvalds uses it. That's gotta mean something.
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...0&d=1309646458

Version 2.00-maemo1 is currently in the Extras-Devel repository and seems to work, but apt-get can't install it so it has to be downloaded manually and installed with dpkg -i. I don't recommend downloading it just yet; version 2.00-maemo2 is on its way; in the autobuilder right now, and hopefully that will install correctly with apt-get (I'm hoping it's just a wrong section specification that prevents apt-get from downloading/installing it, which 2.00-maemo2 build fixes).

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Hmm, so I just tried to install alpine version 2.00-maemo2 through FApMan and it downloaded right, installed, etc. I declare that a sufficient success.

Not quite sure what the issue is then, with me getting the apt-get error of "Handler silently failed" when trying to install from command-line, since obviously that app manager handled it just fine... *Shrug*. Anyone more savvy in the workings of apt who wishes to give any hints on why this might be happening is welcome to say something.

Meanwhile I put version 2.00-maemo3 into the auto builder. This will include an icon and a couple other tweaks debian/control. Then I'll look into the aforementioned optifying thing.

- Edit -
Version 2.00-maemo3 supposedly made it into the repository. It's night where I'm at so unless there's some horrible error I'm not touching it until tomorrow.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Alpine for the Nokia Internet Tablets has been available for quite some time... but not in packaged form. You might want to look at this page for all the additional bits and mods necessary to get Alpine running smoothly.

http://home.mminternet.com/delaroca/

--denis

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Yes, I'm aware it has existed - same with aircrack-ng, and quiet a few other tools - the whole point was that there seemed to be a sufficient desire to have it in the repositories too. Plus .deb packages in repositories are more convenient than remembering what site has what files/packages.

Right now the only noticeable problems for me are apt-get's "handler silently failed", and that the icon I just made last night shows up in HAM but not in FApMan. But as I've freely admitted in the thread where this started I don't actually have much experience using alpine so I don't know what's a bug and what's me not knowing what I'm doing. Is there any specific issues you're seeing in my port vs. the ports on that site, aside from the aforementioned packaging problems?

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One thing that came from that though was that I took greater note of the versioning numbers. I see alpine is on version 2.02 as part of the 're-alpine' project. I presume people would rather have that version than 2.00?

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Put 2.00-maemo4 in the autobuilder. (2.00-maemo3 didn't update the changelog, but I think I figured out why so that's fixed. It also had the icon show up in HAM but not FAM which is less clear to me, but I saved the .png slightly differently and re-uuencode-ed it, so maybe that'll work for this version)

Anyway, at some point I'll do a version bump where this is optified, but until then, it installs from FAM (not sure about HAM - that thing's so slow I try not to touch it unless I absolutely have to), and I'm not hearing anyone say it doesn't work, so.... If you have extras-devel enabled, it's all yours. I'll push a version down to testing if I'm happy with the icon+optification and no one complains for a while after installing it.

- Edit -

I sat through HAM's slowness enough to install 2.00-maemo4 through it.

So both HAM AND FAM manage to install alpine - but "apt-get install alpine" fails. As does "apt-get install -s alpine" and "apt-get -d install alpine".

Also picture still doesn't show up in FApMan. Ughhh...

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Alpine does not support Offline mode - so its not realy usefull.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Thread resurect time.

Idk about that. What's useful varies by person, situation, and goal. Also, did you mean this version of alpine that I ported doesn't support offline version, or alpine as a whole doesn't?

As for everyone in general - anyone actually use alpine on their N900s? Should I bother putting effort into details like the icon only showing up in HAM but not FApMan? Should I still bother doing anything else with this package (like updating it to the slightly newer re-alpine source), or does no one actually use it?

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Hi Mentalist Traceur,

I've always used PINE since the early days of Linux. I've installed alpine on my N900 (not your version from extras-devel, but the one linked above) but haven't used it much, as I tend to be off-line.

I will try installing your version and using it from time to time, though for my mobile purposes Modest is just fine.

BTW, it's true (al)pine doesn't support offline mode, but the thing is that it shouldn't! :) It's a pure IMAP (and NNTP) client, so it needs to be on-line. Offline IMAP is almost a contradiction in terms anyway..

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Alpine itself does does not support offline Mode. I am using icedove via EasyDebian 4 bigger Mail-Accounts. There is a extra offline and Sync function.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

If you can, update it, cause it's one of rare-kind mail clients, that do "advertised" things in simplest possible way, and perform it well.

/Estel

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Used PINE ages ago, totally forgot about it. Thanks so much for this. Btw, not sure why but had the silent halting error in apt-get/FAPman. Nothing aptitude couldn't fix, but still strange for devel app.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

trying to install it, i'm getting this error:

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
alpine: Depends: mime-support but it is not installable
E: Broken packages
------

any idea how to fix this?

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

@impeham,

I use the one linked above (third post, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...88&postcount=3). Should be identical, but the one in extras-devel seems to have additional dependencies.

Package mime-support is in Nokia binary repository ("Fremantle nokia-applications explicit armel"), so please do check if you have it enabled. Otherwise just use the one linked above.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

reinob - i cannot seem to find it there - is it packaged as .deb file for download?

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

direct link:

http://home.mminternet.com/delaroca/...alpine-2.02.gz

just gunzip it. it's only the binary, and you can put it anywhere (chmod +x, so not on Mydocs!)

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

So within the last month I've gotten into using Alpine myself on my N900. I love it for several reasons now. Anyway, I am now much more familiar with Alpine as a program and thus better equipped to actually maintain the package.

Either way, whenever I get the time (admittedly probably not very soon) I will get back to updating this and pushing it down the line to the extras repo.

I'm thinking of packaging a shell script along with it to invoke the browser as the URL viewer in future versions - since by default that's not included and thus viewing long URLs or URLs in HTML email is a pain in the rectal regions.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

@Mentalist Traceur,

Good to hear! :)

I actually was also thinking about packaging alpine as part of a test of my new scratchbox environment (I now have a virtual root server running debian wheezy 32-bit with scratchbox with the cssu/thumb toolchain on it -- pretty cool to compile things really fast using the N900 as a mere ssh client :)

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Seems like nobody uses it here as the build in extras-devel can't remember passwords ( -passfile option not compiled in) and no one complains.

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Tried using it but never came far. It has a bit of learninf curve compared to modern GUI client. think I should, modest is kinda slow.
But that is indeed a dealbreaker

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

I continue using the one linked above (it does save passwords). Actually I haven't used Modest in the last few months. At the moment it takes care of my offline gmail (running mbsync and dovecot on the N900), my online gmail and my news. I've used now (al)pine for MORE THAN 20 YEARS. How cool is that, heh? :)

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

Link doesn't work anymore.
Does anyone have the binary that remembers passwords saved somewhere?

Besides that, there's a new version of Alpine picked up where the University team left of. You van find it here

@Mentalist Traceur Don't know if you are still maintaining this package and have the time to put effort in this, I would like to see the updated version that remembers passwords in the repository :)

Re: [Announce (kinda)] Alpine (X-Term email client)
 

It's there already. I have uploaded re-alpine to the extras-devel quite some time ago. Take a look http://maemo.org/packages/view/re-alpine/. Re-alpine is a fork of the original version "used as an upstream for patches from maintainers" and I have built it wit the option to remember passwords (~/.pine-passfile if I can remember correctly).