MoNav Qt client in repository?
 

Hi,

Last week I found out about the promising monav project by Christian Vetter (and others?) but unfortunately I found only the monav-routing-daemon available in the extras-devel repo, not the Qt client. Why is the client not (yet) there? I think this excellent piece of software should be on everyone's N900..

I noticed that the existing release at monav.openstreetmap.de is a bit old, so I packaged the 0.3.1 version. My aim is to submit it to the -devel repository ASAP. I have requested access to upload the package, because I have no access yet, but in the mean time you can download it at :

latest build

of course you also need to download and extract one or more of the available maps.

about MoNav

MoNav is a fast navigation/routing application using the Openstreetmap. One if the key features is that it allows offline routing.

http://www.outrightsolutions.nl/~san...709-195903.png

clean look and feel

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menu's pop up in a finger friendly way

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multiple waypoints and clear on-screen instructions

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zoom to instructions

http://www.outrightsolutions.nl/~san...709-200251.png

multiple waypoints, very easily managed

http://www.outrightsolutions.nl/~san...709-200308.png

when looking for an address, the biggest cities appear on top of the list without having started typing

http://www.outrightsolutions.nl/~san...709-200400.png

when typing, there's no delay in finding the relevant names

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http://www.outrightsolutions.nl/~san...709-200457.png

after address selection you can check or finetune the exact location on the map, while still showing the planned route. nice!

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Not supported package

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Installed it and it looks very promising. Everything seems to work except the rendering of non-ascii characters. Everything is in cyrillic in my country, and I am only seeing ????? for place and street names. Am I missing some library?
Thanks

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mauron85: what do you mean? Unsupported by the authors? No N900 maintainer?

kovach: You mean the text on the map, or the text in the address picker? Or both?

it might be the preprocessor that mangles the encoding. Do you see the correct placenames when looking through the extracted map files?

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I really like this application. Simple and smooth and i think it suits my needs.
Is it possible to request features in this thread?
What specifically miss is seeing the total distance between departure and destination.

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accumulator:
I can see the text just fine in the dialogs, it's on the map where it shows as ?????
I can also see the text in the first two files in the address_unicode_tournament_trie dir, if I open them as UTF8 files.

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datjomp: I think you're better off posting feature requests to the official bugtracker at http://code.google.com/p/monav/issues/list

kovach: thanks. You should also file this as a bug in the above tracker, but I'll see what I can do..

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kovach: it seems to be a problem with the prepared packages over at http://monav.openstreetmap.de/#mapsets. The places.pqdb files already contain the question marks you see on the map, so it's not a decoding issue of the text in the client.

My own preprocessor run on Greece yielded correct character encodings in the places.pqdb file.

I have the greece map available for download here, can you check if that works as expected?

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Right, filed a bug. Also tested it with the old 0.3 deb from the monav site, it has the same problem.

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ah it seems there's also a problem with the decoding in the client on the 0.3.1 branch. I will make a snapshot build from the latest sources, it works fine for me.

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I just uploaded a snapshot build. Get it here.

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You don't need to have any permissions to override versions of packages in Extras-Devel. Anyone can upload. Here's the problem though - MoNav routing daemon is used by Marble for offline routing. If you push something too "new" into the repo you'll break it for all the people testing Marble in the -devel repo. So coordinate with the user earthwings on this forum - he's the Marble project guy on here.

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kovach: I put the macedonian map online, can you test if that one works with the latest build I created?

link

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Yup, I can see the Cyrillic names now. And just in time too, I'm going to Greece tomorrow, so I'll test out that map as well. :)

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I made a new build that now supports autorotation. See top post.

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how is inputing an address working for you guys?
- typing the city name does nothing, there's no recognition or at least an indicator that the app tries to figure out which city you mean
- street and all other fields are thus disabled -- no way to do anything apparently

- selecting the name from the list below works (i got a test map from berlin, so there're only a few entries, but what for a larger country or, beware, a whole continent?)
- selecting the street: well, a large city like berlin has for almost every street name at least two occurences -- and there's no way to tell from looking. you get a small map tile displaying the (randmomly?) selected street and have to zoom to get at least an idea in whcih part of the city you are. if it's the wrong, tough cookies, no way to re-select but move in that small map tile to the place you really mean (whcih, btw, requires some navigational skills. hold on, wasn't that why i installed this thing in the first place?)
- same thing for the destination -- by now you probably already know whcih way since you had to navigate that small map tile to find both start and destination ...

the input of addresses is obviously useless and contradicts the whole idea of a navigation app -- popping the question if i simply do it wrong.

so, again: how is selecting start and destination working for you when using addresses?

ps: do your maps show street names at all??? i just notice there aren't any on the berlin map.

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I have no problems inputting the city and streetnames. It doesn't do substring search though, so you have to get the beginning of the city/street name right.

for multiple occurences of street names.. how do you propose to differentiate? how do other nav apps handle that? does OSM contain other identifying properties?

monav sorts the selection list by 'size', so the biggest street comes first. and if your first try is not the right one you can go back and choose the other. Is that so hard? maybe I just don't get your problem..

The missing street names on the map is a known issue, hopefully soon resolved.

so, summarizing: no problems whatsoever with address lookup..

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Looks very nice, thank you!

Could you consider changing the package Section: from "x11" to "user/navigation" when/if you release a new version? It's a minor nuisance, but it's easier to find (at least for users of catorise and probably some other pieces of software) if it's not categorized as "other".

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It's great!

Please add it, and the new rebuilds, to extra-devel repository.

Thanks for your work!

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district or zip code. afaik, at least zip is ususally available. and even if not, just listing _all_ occurences is better than current.

there's exactly ONE street -- nothing of "try and go back". and that street is about 30 kilometers south east of the one i am looking for.
btw: this statement clashes with the other one in the beginning ...

well, that's the final dealbreaker. i unistalled monav again. i would put up with non-functional street search and missing non-ascii chars -- but being dropped on a map w/o any indication where i am, renders the thing useless.

how nice for you. which map do you use? can you give an example of the multiple street names?

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I noticed that street name rendering is now more or less implemented in monav's source repo, so I decided to spin a new package with the latest updates and the suggestions made in this thread.

I also uploaded it into extras-devel, so it's now much easier to install.

Feedback welcome!

Notes:

- the binary map format has changed, so you need new maps. This means compiling monav-preprocesser yourself, or using the maps I put here.

- I haven't tested marble-monav integration.

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Thanks. Am i right that the public available mapsets need updates? I had to downgrade during travel because the current ones (from April) won't be accepted.

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Hello,

I have a VPS that I'm thinking of using to preprocess certain maps in almost real time and then use the N900 as a client that will have most of the maps that I could want already installed. Could this work?

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is someone still maintaining monav? i wanted to give it a try again, but the version seems to be the same i treid the last time -- and monav has apprently moved to 0.3-6 already ...

tried to build myself, but documentation of/scratchbox/scratchbox2/madd/... has gotten even more confusing over the last year.

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That version works pretty good. I have a full vector map of Germany and offline routing on my phone :)

Any particular problem with it?