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phuongymy 2011-07-10 00:29

Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Okay, so i checked out the specs for both and even though its a little early to say if its finalized specs or not. I was wondering what you guys have to say; speculating it from the videos, pictures and specs posted as of yet. Although N9 has great screen, N950 has better camera. N9 has no keyboard where as N950 does. No flash on both.(WHICH SUCKS)

Basically i just want to see what you guys would like to buy.. Nokia n950 or Nokia n9... And please post your reasons why... So i can make up my find and its easier for me to chose. Thanks

Kangal 2011-07-10 00:35

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
I love it when we get to tell someone what to do and we absolutely don't know them.

ysss 2011-07-10 00:35

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
All of us here have pretty much decided to buy the N950 and to leave the N9 for the plebs out there...

chase15 2011-07-10 00:58

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
everyone would get n950 than n9.. id say 8 out of 10..

PartyboyXP 2011-07-10 01:16

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
N950 obviously
We need the QWERTY keyboard, a mobile computer without keyboard its incomplete

geneven 2011-07-10 01:28

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
I think that the N950 s destined to be made widely available, assuming Nokia is sensible (?), so getting it is just a matter of waiting. If you can wait, wait.

Goliath27 2011-07-10 01:43

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1048025)
I think that the N950 s destined to be made widely available, assuming Nokia is sensible (?), so getting it is just a matter of waiting. If you can wait, wait.

That's if my N900 can survive the wait. I can't imagine not using this and having something else as a temporary.


If I could use the E7 like a normal person than maybe.

anim1 2011-07-10 02:18

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by partyboyxp (Post 1048020)
n950 obviously
we need the qwerty keyboard, a mobile computer without keyboard its incomplete

i mean y call the n9 a mobile computer? When it is clearly a mobile tablet.
N950 for the win. I hope they finalize it and release the beast.

F2thaK 2011-07-10 02:42

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
umm, the N950 isnt available to buy..... unless something has changed very recently. nice to dream though.... (hey, I want one!)

oh and I heard somewhere that the N950 actually has same camera as N9...

JamesBond@ge 2011-07-10 02:51

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
I'm enrolling on the Developers Program even though I couldn't 'develop' a piece of toast without burning it.

Hurrian 2011-07-10 02:52

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
@f2thak : yes, the N950 has the same 8MP as the N9.
And people on #maemo say that the slider is slightly weak.

Basically, the higher-ups at Nokia did something to gimp both devices, hardware and software wise before release, in addition to Sea Ray.

chase15 2011-07-10 03:02

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1048042)
oh and I heard somewhere that the N950 actually has same camera as N9...

nope it's different.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...ia-n9-imaging/

nwerneck 2011-07-10 04:45

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1048013)
All of us here have pretty much decided to buy the N950 and to leave the N9 for the plebs out there...

Dunno... I would prefer if the N950 looked a bit more like the E7.

I have a feeling hwkb kind of defeats the purpose of making stuff small and mobile. I don't think it makes typing on phones suck _a lot_ less. Being able to type with full screen is really the top advantage... And between E7 and N97 style keyboards, and N72/blackberry style, I feel the second one is more justifiable, but then you have the loss in screen size.

If you need to type a lot, get a BT keyboard. If you are not typing a lot, you are in "mobile mode" then, typing a little. In that case you win something for having a more simple and smaller device.

Of course, everyone got his tastes. Nokia can always just release two similar devices with and without kb, like N8 and E7...

#Justsaying! :) I own an N800 btw.

To keep a little more on-topic: What does the N950 owners out there have to say about the hinge? Is it "flimsy"???

ysss 2011-07-10 04:58

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
@nwerneck: apologies for my bitter and not quite sensical comment back then. I mentioned about 'buying the n950' while it's not possible to do so, I thought that was a clear flag to those in the know ;)

As for hwkb, personally I've found having a physical keyboard with feel'able markings, boundaries and tactile feel helps me a LOT. And this is coming from a user who've owned every iteration of iPhones since the first gen.

Sure, vkb has its benefits (flexibility in format, orientation, localization, getting full screen, etc) but for plain typing (email, text, im, forums, and even typing long URLs) hwkb is always my first choice...

BT keyboard needs space to exist. Extra battery to maintain. Extra battery on the main device to maintain the bt connection. They need time to sleep/wake up and reconnect. Etc. They're not perfect, though they're better than tapping on glass.

hwkb ain't perfect either... they're more rigid, if the layout/keyset isn't optimal then you're stuck with it, orientation-fixed, takes up some space that can be reserved for more battery, they either eat up screen estate or they introduce some additional mechanism to hide/produce them.

gerbick 2011-07-10 05:28

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 1048044)
I'm enrolling on the Developers Program even though I couldn't 'develop' a piece of toast without burning it.

Been there, tried that... Quim Gil himself came down with a judgement of "no" in record time.

Oh well... I wish them luck, but don't have high hopes due to how badly this is being handled.

jakiman 2011-07-10 05:54

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
N950 isn't that big. I expect N950 to be about the same size as the E7 which isn't that big at all. So it's smaller in footprint than SGS2 or other HTC phones. It is also MUCH thinner than the N900. FYI - E7 is exactly the same thickness than the bottom half (keyboard part) of the N900. Oh, and here's a photo of N950 next to the much tinier N8 for comparison.

http://shootspeak.com/2011/07/06/nok...photo-with-n8/

nwerneck 2011-07-10 06:08

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1048072)
@nwerneck: apologies for my bitter and not quite sensical comment back then. I mentioned about 'buying the n950' while it's not possible to do so, I thought that was a clear flag to those in the know ;)

OK, sorry for not getting that. I then suggest us to expand the talk into comparing the N9 not only with the N950, but also maybe the pegasus, the gryphon, pink unicorns and other interesting although non-purchasable/unattainable creatures! :rolleyes:

I actually never managed to get a BT keyboard for myself. Neither a BT GPS, or a very large SD card (stopped at 4GB). I only started tethering my N800 to a phone for 3G access on-the-move very recently.

I think that was part of the N800 concept... It is cheaper because it doesn't have a hwkb, GPS, 3G, a decent camera and neither a lot of memory. You (at least me) buy it promising to get all these enhancements afterwards (on a cool S40 phone e.g. the 7020), but you end up buying nothing. By including all that in the package, the company kind of forces you into getting to this higher level of existence...

A few days after I bought my N800, and that was more than one year after it was released, I show it to some friends, explained that it was like-an-iphone-but-it-has-just-wifi-no-3G, and one guy said: "nah, why didn't you get a PSP?". I was furious, because it's obvious you can't compile and alternative kernel to the PSP. (I only learned later it's actually hard for the N800 because of the components that still haven't made to the mainline kernel.) But he kind of had a point... If I had shown him an N900, or maybe even the N810, he wold have never said that.

So, getting back on topic, which one is less like a PSP, the N9 or the N950? :)

lma 2011-07-10 07:38

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 1048044)
I'm enrolling on the Developers Program even though I couldn't 'develop' a piece of toast without burning it.

I suppose you could say you can /dev/elop it.

lma 2011-07-10 07:42

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 1048081)
N950 isn't that big. I expect N950 to be about the same size as the E7 which isn't that big at all. So it's smaller in footprint than SGS2 or other HTC phones. It is also MUCH thinner than the N900. FYI - E7 is exactly the same thickness than the bottom half (keyboard part) of the N900. Oh, and here's a photo of N950 next to the much tinier N8 for comparison.

http://shootspeak.com/2011/07/06/nok...photo-with-n8/

Here it is next to an N900 (see also the following two pics). Looks much better than the specs would imply IMHO.

MyNokiaN900 2011-07-10 08:13

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 1048044)
I'm enrolling on the Developers Program even though I couldn't 'develop' a piece of toast without burning it.

Best comment I've seen all year... :) You've just made my morning.

Thanks...

I am going to do the same. I can code, and prehaps this is the kick in the backside moment for me.

phuongymy 2011-07-10 08:14

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
@IMA... Thanks for that pic.. I honestly like my phones heavy but thats quite big. N900 was the perfect size and weight ratio (MANLY PHONE).

As for N950 not being to customers other then developers is not my concern. I'm just wondering which phone will come out on top. Im pretty sure there are people on this forum that have used N950 and or N9. Im here wanting to know which one will be a better all-rounder. In every category that is.

Thanks for trying to keep the Post On TOPIC

ossipena 2011-07-10 11:32

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1048077)
Been there, tried that... Quim Gil himself came down with a judgement of "no" in record time.

Oh well... I wish them luck, but don't have high hopes due to how badly this is being handled.

then you must have done something really bad or they required some kind of track record with app development/testing/anything....

patlak 2011-07-14 11:23

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
N950 looks gorgeous among all the other devices. And it looks like Harmattan was already developed fully with both landscape and portrait. Step 5 of 5 = check. :)

N950

marxian 2011-07-14 11:53

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Some photos of my N950:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/408/14072011.th.jpg http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1...2011001.th.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/464...2011004.th.jpg http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5...2011005.th.jpg

:)

bandora 2011-07-14 12:18

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Te N950 irl is an amazing device! Great in the hands! Keyboard is amazing and the slider is very cool!

Sadly the N950 isn't mine.. it's my brother's and I barely got a hands on.. :(

vi_ 2011-07-14 12:26

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Who cares, the N950 is owned by just over 100 people who are now furiously porting their programs for no one.

demolition 2011-07-14 12:46

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Am I missing something? Is the N950 going to be for sale?

Several people have said they'd buy an N950. While I'm sure it's a great device, I thought it was only ever going to be available through either the meego or nokia developer networks. Has this changed? guess it won't be useful for anything else so nokia might have a right-to-buy scheme for those who get one through a developer programme.

If not, I might have to say how well I can "burn toast" too.

mikecomputing 2011-07-14 12:47

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1050860)
Who cares, the N950 is owned by just over 100 people who are now furiously porting their programs for no one.

wrong Meego Community has 200 devices out and developer.nokia.com 200 and there is more outside of this networks...

They will marketing N9 very much in northeuropean. Meegosweden has atleast two devices. And there will be 30 testpoilots for N9 in sweden.

I hope WP will totally fail in here :D

patlak 2011-07-14 12:55

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Lucky bi*ch :( :p

kanishou 2011-07-15 13:25

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phuongymy (Post 1048128)
As for N950 not being to customers other then developers is not my concern. I'm just wondering which phone will come out on top. Im pretty sure there are people on this forum that have used N950 and or N9. Im here wanting to know which one will be a better all-rounder. In every category that is.

From my point of view:

N950:

- Bigger size, odd handling, feels like a previous-generation phone to me (especially after using the N9 for a while).
- I wouldn't call the hinge flimsy, but opening it is a little awkward. I personally don't like it.
- The hardware keyboard feels a bit out of place with the mostly portrait-style OS (and really good VKB), but is otherwise the one advantage it has.

N9:

- Smaller, has a gorgeous and solid unibody design, fits perfectly into one hand (which makes a lot of sense with the portrait-focus of the OS).
- Has a much better screen.
- Works a lot better with the swipe UI, both because swipe works best when held in portrait, and because of the curved screen and bezel.
- Has NFC

Everything else being pretty much equal, I would say the N9 wins this one easily. Of course some are simply not looking for an actual phone like the N9, but that is a different story and has little to do with the objective merits of the two devices.

If you are looking for something different, call it mobile computer, mini-netbook, whatever, then the N950 is obviously closer to that, and not everybody cares about ergonomic and aesthetic features of the hardware. But frankly I think that the N9 excels far more at being a phone than the N950 does at being a mobile computer or anything else really.

The N950 still a good device of course, just not exceptionally awesome (as it should be). :)

ysss 2011-07-15 13:28

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Thanks for sharing motherf***** :D

Brock 2011-07-19 11:08

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
hello,

a question to those who have the N950

is it allowed to sell the device to someone else (eg at ebay)?

i mean, if you have it and then the N9 comes out and you will do all develop things with the N9, what do you do with that device? can you (or I) get in trouble if you sell it to me and i place it at ebay?

sjgadsby 2011-07-19 11:55

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1054034)
hello,

a question to those who have the N950

is it allowed to sell the device to someone else (eg at ebay)?

i mean, if you have it and then the N9 comes out and you will do all develop things with the N9, what do you do with that device? can you (or I) get in trouble if you sell it to me and i place it at ebay?

People who have been sent N950s do not own the devices; Nokia have loaned the N950s out, and the devices remain Nokia's property. The loaner N950s even have "NOT FOR SALE" printed directly on their casings.

When developers finish with the N950s, they are to return the devices to Nokia.

Brock 2011-07-19 12:07

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
but what if e.g. you give yours to me and say that you have lost yours?

I am asking because i could get one but i am not sure if i could get in trouble with it...

nicholes 2011-07-19 12:37

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Add a POLL!

for ........

Am not i right?????

abbra 2011-07-19 12:42

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1054076)
but what if e.g. you give yours to me and say that you have lost yours?

I am asking because i could get one but i am not sure if i could get in trouble with it...

Product Load Agreement sets a fine in case device is lost or not returned to Nokia. The fine is substantial and can be compared to a cost of a new high-end mobile device. I'm sure you would also get to ignore list for further product loans. :)

mikelima 2011-07-19 12:42

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1054034)
hello,

a question to those who have the N950

is it allowed to sell the device to someone else (eg at ebay)?

i mean, if you have it and then the N9 comes out and you will do all develop things with the N9, what do you do with that device? can you (or I) get in trouble if you sell it to me and i place it at ebay?

No, you cannot.
It is loaned to the developers, on the condition on doing useful stuff on it.
So Nokia (Or MeeGo.com, I am not sure) could ask for it to be sent back.

Jedibeeftrix 2011-07-22 09:05

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1048013)
All of us here have pretty much decided to buy the N950 and to leave the N9 for the plebs out there...

not I.

I am quite happy with the N9 given the polycarbonate body and curved amoled screen.

shadowjk 2011-07-22 16:21

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Genius marketing really, calling it polycarbonate instead of the commonly used name "plastic" ;-)

smegheadz 2011-07-24 22:26

Re: Nokia N950 vs Nokia N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowjk (Post 1056259)
Genius marketing really, calling it polycarbonate instead of the commonly used name "plastic" ;-)

Well we are talking about the consumers who harp on about "face time" and until recently "the ability to multi-task on a smartphone"
Have to embrace the marketing, the smartphone world and world in general would be a very different place if people didn't lap up that kind of marketing.


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