bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

ive given in, and went to the dark side. just wanted to say thanks to all the members of the community for their dedication, as i would have left a long time ago without it. got myself an HTC sensation. brilliant phone.

i know im a no body, but elop needs to see that people will leave in their thousands because of his decisions.

on another note, ive got an n900 for sale now if any1 wants it...gonna miss you

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

such a loss. :(

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

ROTFL so you think Elopp cares if some geeks leaves Nokia?

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Tanks for leaving. :D

But dude, could you please post your leave message at the next forum (HTC) at a existing thread and not create a new one?

Anyway, hope to see you at the next big MeeGo phones from LG, HTC or Samsung. Bye!

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

well he doesnt care thats hes running nokia into the ground so i doubt it

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

And you think the reverse is true? If some small numbers of geeks to purchase N9 will further MeeGo's cause significantly?

(referring to your past post about said strategy)

Fact is, the modern consumer is quite powerless unless they band together on some internet (read:facebook) page to amass the numbers required to do such action.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

I dont say it help if some geeks buys n9 and everything gets fine.

But I am sure N9 will succes in many contrys. Not in big countrys like US but there is others...

What I am saying is the boards official strategy to go WP7 in every country is just smoke. Cause that will fail. Elop must know that also or else he most be Canadas most stupid idiot ever. Asian hates Microsoft and want Linux/Android. they had better chance with Meego harmattan.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

HaHa....hoho

coco

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If he doesn't care then he seriously should.

Who do the masses go to for their electronic gadget advice? Who makes the corporate decision when buying truck loads of handsets for the company? Who...

My point, geeks tell their friends and families the good and bad about technology, friends and family listen, they pass that info on to their web of friends and it spreads.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

a quick glance over the replies to your message shows 2 things...

1 most of the players/coders are long gone
2 if you want to get insulted or defamed this is the forum for you

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

what?

read my post above. I'm speaking in code!

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

I buyed HTC desire z (waiting it), but no no no.. i do not leave n900 ;). There is soo much to do with this great phone! I buy the Z because Android is well supported.. Shame on you Nokia!!!

I hate Eflop :(. Do not buy Microsoft phones.. they OS are so lame and ugly!

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

1. I think they just don't care.
2. What did you expect in thread like this? Especially when it belongs in Off Topic, not in General.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

If that were true, then Nokia would have sold many more N900s. The harsh reality is that most consumers have a different set of priorities than the typical geek when choosing a gadget, hence a geeks advice is of limited value, which is probably why this demographic is largely ignored by consumer electronics manufacturers.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

Moreover, a geek would (and should!) also take into account how much tweaking and maintenance would the phone need to satisfy the user.

This has direct impact on how much work the geek will have to do for the user, the user's dependency on the geek, and the overall satisfaction of said end user.

Unless the geek has ulterior motives (ahem), or is somewhat ignorant (ahum), I think most geeks will think twice before recommending the n900 to an unsuspecting Joe Public.

I've read numerous accounts where experienced users here have recommended other types of smartphones to their 'follower' due to the reasons stated above.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

to the OP thank you for your time here and you do not have to leave the forum completely...pass on through...there may be someone who has an issue an with your experience you may be able to help them in some way or at least direct them to the correct solution...
you can even write up a thread on N900 vs HTC from your personal point of view...such little things can help other make decisions..
thanks again

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

Well, if by geeks you mean developers, then I think Mr. Ecosystem cares. Or Ballmer could remind him.

ecosystem - developers = feature phone

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

I recently got a nexus s and although I like it as a phone, android still doesn't compare. Keep your n900 and stick with tmo. There's still nothing like it, and I doubt there ever will be. My n900 will never be for sale (again)

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Most of my friends didn't even know about N900, even some geeky ones. They all knew about N97, though. That's what i call bad marketing ;) .

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

didn't you forget something?
Flop said that MeeGo is a dead avenue, partly also by lack of third party software.
i don't think he cares about Maemo / MeeGo anymore.
or ever did, for that matter :mad:

but your commitment may help NOKIA's return to it, indeed :)

PS: how is it going w/ the N950? ;)

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ELOP DOESNT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE - KANJE WEST.

anyway, it not like elop really cares about nokia, he just wants his wp7 phone devices out to be carried by nokia brand.


all other brands COMBINED sales were just 1.6m Q1 sales for wp7.

even after sharing monumental 500m marketing with the xbox and kinect.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

i expected that the disinterested wouldnt open the thread and that those interested would. i didnt expect that the disinterested would open it, feel personally insulted and then reply to something they dont care about.

heinious to post in general and not off topic though!

;-)

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

And I would expect that someone who has not been subjected to these threads before to react in this way.

You are forgiven my son.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

And that's generally how we like it around here, "Just give us our hardware and leave us alone." I didn't come here for the "ecosystem"; I mostly came here for the free exchange of software ideas after Nokia supplied us with good hardware and a good OS. But as many like to point out, that doesn't seem good enough to run a company on. Quite frankly, I look at my n900 every day, and I still can't believe it exists.

I am committed, but sadly I'm just another mercenary FOSS guy; it takes a village.

As far as I know, no one in the U.S. has received theirs yet, me included. But they've been trickling in elsewhere.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

got a 2nd one, just to be sure ¦-)

started to ponder using one as a test device for a couple developments for Fremantle, but a tad too busy with other things right now to download the dev environment & start w/ that...

zehjotkah already gotten his, but he is in Germany, indeed...

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Two is better than one, and I'm in desperate need of a new screen digitizer, but I'm not sure I have the balls to take it apart until the n950 arrives.

Click on the link in my signature, and like the force, the SDK will be with you. Always. And I still do plenty of prototyping in Python. Except for some very minor Hildon issues, the Qt Python bindings are better than the Gtk ones, IMO.

And if you haven't tried a recent version of Qt Creator, you should. After installing MAD Developer on the device, one click, and BOOM, your application is packaged, loaded and running on your n900. Since I've switched from Gtk to Qt, I'm using scratchbox less and less, but I have the PR 1.3 SDK in an n900 chroot, so I can still rsync the source and continue developing. And packaging! I sure hope qole and Stskeeps can help make that happen for MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan... :eek:

And that's his 2nd one, I think. But here's a promising quote:

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This is fantastic! Now that there is an elite few who actually possess an N950, they can spend their time porting and hacking software onto it without having to worry about it being run by pesky ignorant users!

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See, dreams can come true. I think I'll open a bottle of champagne tonight.

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Or if the geek cherishes the precious geek smugness of understanding a complex device that simple Joe Public cannot/will not, above all else.

It's always laughable when people imply that something cannot be simple in order to be satisfactory to geeks, or has to be mutually exclusive from a phone that is easy to use and intuitive for Joe Public. I don't see why geeks would not want something that is both easy to use for as many people as possible, while also allowing them to do their geek things as they see fit, aside from maintaining geek street cred.

Of course options that accomplish both seem few and far between, so I get that. Seems like the N9 was going in the right direction but for all the usability excitement, I've seen the geek criticisms of what it lacks for them.

Not aimed at anyone in particular in this thread, but holding high the "it's too complex for you to understand, noob" achievement is a concept that continues to amuse me, and probably self-defeating in the long run if we're talking about consumers of any kind.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

when you do gather your courage, le'me know; btdt :p
in case you can't get the part any more, i have a spare one ;)

being a KDE fan boy of old (still running KDE 3.5.10 / Trinity port on openSUSE 11.3) i'd rather compile Qt stuff from source then use Gtk stuff :D

already had MAD Developer installed once, but left if out when i did a "clean" install a few weeks ago; guess i'll give it another try on the 2nd device & see how some Qt source code compiles :rolleyes:

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

Well, since my last comment I decided to dive into QML. This sh*t is cool. I just finished my initial port to Qt, but now I'm just gonna leave my core logic there, and move the rest to QML. The only bummer is, the QML part of the Qt Creator simulator has a fatal shared memory leak in Mac OS, so it looks like I'll be mostly on-device coding till there's a fix. And to think just yesterday I was doing some hacky low-level X stuff to avoid a performance hit... F*ck it, I'm drinkin' the Kool Aid.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

i'm more of a back-office guy :cool:
i'll stick with Qt and try to improve the Contacts db before messing around w/ the interface :eek:

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

hi robert, since no one in this tread has taken op on your offer, im wondering, do you still have the N900 for sale? wich country are you located? what would you ask for it (including shipping fee)?
i wouldn't mind having a backup phone, for just in case.

and question to other in this tread who were talking about there new N950. how much was the price (in euros)? thanks.

Re: bye bye my sweet sweet N900
 

seems i can get around 140 pounds sterling for it on ebay.