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electroaudio 2011-07-12 17:47

folder explorer as a widget?
 
Are there any "windows explorer" like filemanagers aviable or how difficult would it be to make one?

I think it is a little "backwards" to open the program first and then go into a lot of menus to open the file i want.
So it would be nicer if there was a folder-widget i could put on the desktop which would open up a chosen directory in a window with my files in it, and then just tap the file to open it with the right program.
-just as it is done on most desktopcomputers.

fahadj2003 2011-07-12 17:57

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
+1
i'd love to see this...
but i think the screen is too small for it.. might jus take up a whole customizable screen to see this in action..

sethkha 2011-07-12 18:18

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
A 5x10 icons grid fullscreen should be easy to use. This shouldn't be that hard to do (in the sense : I could name you 10 people here, who could do this.

electroaudio 2011-07-12 18:25

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 1049647)
+1
i'd love to see this...
but i think the screen is too small for it.. might jus take up a whole customizable screen to see this in action..

I was more thinking of a small widget with only the name of the directory visible, and when it was tapped on, it would open up a fullscreen window with all the files in that directory.
-So a screen would be able to hold a whole bunch of selectable directories, and other stuff as usual.

dragndrop filemanagement over several windows would ofcourse be nice, but that would the screen be to small for...

michaaa62 2011-07-12 18:27

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Install extshortcut and create it yourself! Open filebox in any folder you want or open your favorite side in your browser, or..., or ...

haffid 2011-07-12 18:34

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
a widget for filebox wolud be awesome

electroaudio 2011-07-12 19:36

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haffid (Post 1049670)
a widget for filebox wolud be awesome

yes precisely. except that the screenestate in filebox isnt so well utilized for a simple tap n run operation.
the 5x10 grid mentioned earlier or a list with several rows would be more useful.

rooster13 2011-07-12 19:59

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1049637)
Are there any "windows explorer" like filemanagers aviable or how difficult would it be to make one?

I think it is a little "backwards" to open the program first and then go into a lot of menus to open the file i want.
So it would be nicer if there was a folder-widget i could put on the desktop which would open up a chosen directory in a window with my files in it, and then just tap the file to open it with the right program.
-just as it is done on most desktopcomputers.

Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but check out Shortcut Stash from my signature. With my widget you have access to all the folders you have under /home/user/MyDocs and you can browse from there on.

SHARP66 2011-07-12 20:29

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rooster13 (Post 1049739)
Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but check out Shortcut Stash from my signature. With my widget you have access to all the folders you have under /home/user/MyDocs and you can browse from there on.

is not the same as I put filebox manager icon on desktop and bookmarked folders on filebox.
maybe is better with more widgets of yours with different categorization.

electroaudio 2011-07-13 09:39

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rooster13 (Post 1049739)
Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but check out Shortcut Stash from my signature. With my widget you have access to all the folders you have under /home/user/MyDocs and you can browse from there on.

sorry, your widget solves a completely different probblem.

Ideally: i want to expand the desktops functionality to the same level of productivity as a desktop computer.

But i was thinking of it.. and it doesnt need to include a widget, it could just as well be a configurable desktop-window program with a simple filemanager built into it, optimized for finding and launching files.

rooster13 2011-07-13 09:51

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
No worries.

What you are thinking would be great.
Maybe a program which would insert configurable desktop shortcuts to desired folders using linux desktop -files.

sethkha 2011-07-13 10:01

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
I personally would prefer a desktop widget. I don't think such a thing would use too much ram. Isn't it just reading what's inside a folder and displaying this as buttons?

electroaudio 2011-07-13 13:59

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sethkha (Post 1050032)
I personally would prefer a desktop widget. I don't think such a thing would use too much ram. Isn't it just reading what's inside a folder and displaying this as buttons?

Personally i dont really care if it is a program or a widget.
And with linux desktop or windows link files (as Rooster13 mentioned) implemented too, it would also replace a great deal of the functions done by the homescreens.

Well, i have checked the gtk.button() command and to me it seems like the main function would be to do a directorylisting and then just fill a container with gtk.buttons.
-But right now i have some ergonomic problems with the n900 keyboard and small screen, which makes it hard to learn anything new regarding programming on a completely new system.

sethkha 2011-07-13 14:11

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A Widget would give some sort of Desktop experience.
The Gui Part should be easy. In fact i am writing something like this in the moment. I would like to have some menu from the desktop similar to openbox menu. Changing it to be filled with the directory content should be doable.
However I have no clue how to handle these files (.desktop...). And I am doing the things rather quick and dirty.

stickymick 2011-07-13 14:24

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
If I remember correctly, the Nokia Communicator series had such an environment.

Always wondered if it would be possible to have a desktop like environment on the N900.

electroaudio 2011-07-13 15:09

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sethkha (Post 1050166)
A Widget would give some sort of Desktop experience.
The Gui Part should be easy. In fact i am writing something like this in the moment. I would like to have some menu from the desktop similar to openbox menu. Changing it to be filled with the directory content should be doable.
However I have no clue how to handle these files (.desktop...). And I am doing the things rather quick and dirty.

NICE :)

You could create your own .desktop fileformat and just call it something else, that was what i was thinking about :)
But the functionality of .desktop inside a simple deskmanager lke this could also be implemented with a simple textfile where each line was one item.

sethkha 2011-07-13 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1050218)
You could create your own .desktop fileformat and just call it something else, that was what i was thinking about :)
But the functionality of .desktop inside a simple deskmanager lke this could also be implemented with a simple textfile where each line was one item.

I don't understand what this would be needed for

electroaudio 2011-07-14 08:30

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sethkha (Post 1050348)
I don't understand what this would be needed for

How is it going?

Domt know what kind of widget you are doing but the file is necessary for a complete desktop enviroment, to keep information of the icons on the desktop and maybe also to add nonexistent icons to the subfolders.

The idea that has developed in my head durig this discussion is a widget that has "bookmarks" to various directorys (and maybe even directly to files and progrograms too) on it just like a desktop, and when a folder is tapped on, opens up a very simple "filemanager" presenting the files in the folder in a nice way.

electroaudio 2011-07-14 08:40

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1050180)
If I remember correctly, the Nokia Communicator series had such an environment.

Always wondered if it would be possible to have a desktop like environment on the N900.

yes it had a simple but still useful desktop.
-I dont see any reason why we cant have a desktop oriented workflow on the 900 too, insteaed of this APP-lication workflow we currently have.

Btw, found some code examples which could be helpful.

A snippet that sets up icons for mimetypes
https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/pymaemo/ww..._mime_icons.py

A snippet that opens a file with its mimetype.
https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/pymaemo/ww...t_mime_open.py

sethkha 2011-07-14 09:20

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1050708)
How is it going?

Domt know what kind of widget you are doing but the file is necessary for a complete desktop enviroment, to keep information of the icons on the desktop and maybe also to add nonexistent icons to the subfolders.

The idea that has developed in my head durig this discussion is a widget that has "bookmarks" to various directorys (and maybe even directly to files and progrograms too) on it just like a desktop, and when a folder is tapped on, opens up a very simple "filemanager" presenting the files in the folder in a nice way.

My idea was this simple "filemanager" showing in the widget. e.g. showing the folders/files in a folder in alphabetical order (no free positioning (maybe home as default). If you tap a folder the widget shows the content of the new folder. If you tap a file, it opens . The widget itself has a .desktop file.

trx 2011-07-15 11:06

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Download and install TxPad (extras-testing, extras-devel repos) code editor and go to File/Open.

Its only a basic "explorer", if you like it, i can develop it further (As a standalone application)

TRX.

sethkha 2011-07-15 12:05

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
As I said above I'd like to see a widget which displays the folder in icon view (something like the plasma widget or screenlet).
If you write anything like that I'd appreciate that.

(I like TXPad. The one thing I don't like is that it's in rootfs btw)

nicholes 2011-07-15 12:17

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
nice idea to make "MyComputer" like a desktop has!!!!

electroaudio 2011-07-15 14:13

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
TxPad was very nice :) it the best filebrowser i have seen on N900 so far!

And as mentioned byNicholes, it would be very nice as a MyComputer icon.
It is also nice that it can view the whole filesystem and doesnt limit itself to mydocs, but maybe it shoud expand mydocs as a startingpoint if possible?

electroaudio 2011-07-18 09:03

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Any progress anywhere sofar? ;)

sethkha 2011-07-18 17:50

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
WIP
~ 1 week till there's something to see (I hope)

sethkha 2011-07-22 10:32

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
So this is the current state.

Buggy and not usable, wrong icons wrong toolbar. No refresh, no nothing. A lot to change, but it will look this way in the end
If want to try this anyway to see how it looks on your phone (mainly icon size), install yellownotes and move the files from the archive to /usr/lib/hildon-desktop. icon to home/user/.yellownotes. Add yellownotes widget to desktop.

electroaudio 2011-07-22 18:56

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sethkha (Post 1056065)
So this is the current state.

Buggy and not usable, wrong icons wrong toolbar. No refresh, no nothing. A lot to change, but it will look this way in the end
If want to try this anyway to see how it looks on your phone (mainly icon size), install yellownotes and move the files from the archive to /usr/lib/hildon-desktop. Add yellownotes widget to desktop, press right button.

Nothing happens...
What do you mean with "right button"?

Btw, why did you choose to make yellownotes a part of it?

sethkha 2011-07-22 19:42

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by electroaudio (Post 1056356)
Nothing happens...
What do you mean with "right button"?

Btw, why did you choose to make yellownotes a part of it?

I just used yellownotes as it has a lot useful stuff for me in it, I'm familiar with the code and had a readymade widget to start with immediately. I have removed most of the unneccessary thigs (e.g. the toolbar on screenshot/everything notes related by now and the widget looks better already.

(new screenshot/new files/no buttons anymore)

electroaudio 2011-07-22 20:25

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sethkha (Post 1056386)
the empty "button" in the corner bottom/right under the arrow down. if you press it, the widget should show the content of your HOME.

I just used yellownotes as it has a lot useful stuff for me in it, I'm familiar with the code and had a readymade widget to start with immediately. I have removed most of the unneccessary thigs (e.g. the toolbar on screenshot/everything notes related by now and the widget looks better already.

(new screenshot)

I dont have that button.
Oh, my fault! one of the original files wasnt overwritten, so now it works (sort of... very buggy indeed ;) ) But the iconsize seems to be the same as my desktopicons which according to my settings are 96.

sethkha 2011-07-22 20:31

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
I don't know If you've seen there's a new version. Next version will come when it works ( right icons/excute file&app/browse folders/resizable). Suggestions welcome

electroaudio 2011-07-22 20:58

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
Downloaded and tried it now. Well, it is still buggy ;) But i guess that you are familiar with all the bugs :)

My suggestion would be to make it possible to define the startdirectory in the settings.
-But if it will work first, then it is a good start :)

sethkha 2011-07-24 21:48

Re: folder explorer as a widget?
 
As I consider it some kind of usable now:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...58#post1057558


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