Unexpected cool features on n950
 

There are several features aready present on the n950 which i didn't expect or which required 3rd party tools on maemo5.

First of all: The exchange integration is great. I was sitting in the car with both my n900 and the n950 and was ask to invite several people to a meeting. I knew the n900 can't do that. But to my surprise the n950 can. Just create a meeting appointment, add people from your contacts list and hit "send" ...

The second nice things is that you can set schedules for email download. This allows to e.g. keep the phone silent in the night.

And last but not least: The phone can keep an eye on the transfer volume and can e,g, warn you if you exceed a certain limit.

I am sure others have also noticed nice and surprising things.

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Whoopy f****ing doo, share it with the other 249 people who own harmattan.

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On my N900 this already works as "Übertragungswarnung" with an adjustable amount. ;-)
See "Home network data counter", "View transferred data details"
here:
http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/g...N900_UG_en.pdf

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Could you or someone tell us how Maemo 6/Meego battery life performs on N950?? Is better/worse than on N900??

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You can do this for MfE accounts on N900. If you're saying that you can also do this for IMAP accounts on N950, then that would be new and welcome.

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I think most of us with N950's will be careful to make comments in public places related to its performance, etc. It is a developer device, intended to bring OSS apps ready for N9 sales start.

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You're only jealous.

- And so am I!

It is interesting to hear these snippets of info, though; we may never get our hands on our own N950, but owning an N9 IS a real proposition and I for one would like to hear what I can look forward to.

So please, all you N950 Devs - tell us all your NDA's will permit :D

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how does the wifi work? similr to n900 where if known network is found it auto connects? and does the browser have text wrapping on zoom?

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Hopefully all of Nokia's preaching about Qt easily bringing apps to all platforms will mean they're more than willing to share the new and updated Harmattan apps with N900 users.

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By developer device you mean left-overs from a batch of scrapped phones, right? I fail to see any reason why to maintain a shroud of secrecy in regards to nokia's way of putting out the garbage in a productive way...

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Not jealous, annoyed. Your all treating this thing like it's a god-damned Jesus phone that will end cancer and ascend mankind to the gods.

It's not.

It is a dead, end of line abortion. An inkling of what the team behind the N900 were trying to create before they were buttfvcked and force to design the equally pointless N9.

Don't you get it? The N9 HAS NO FUTURE. The N950 HAS NO FUTURE. There will be no firmware updates and almost certainly no 'appz'. Everything that sucks about the N900 (see lack of support) this thing will embody. N9^N900 suck.

And now the creme de la crap, the steamer on the cake, the most talented of the maemo developers have been given a 'loan' of one so they can port programs that no one can use to a platform that apparently only 250 of exist.

It is not like this thing even runs meego with a tiny possibility of a future, it runs 'harmattan'. An absolute 1 way, council estate cul de sac of an OS. Further more it is not even the same hardware as this N9 so fvck knows what good it will be for 'porting appz'.

While I accepted the follow device would be the final nail in the coffin for the N900, I never guessed the final nail would have the functional equivalent of a dildo in an orphanage.

Thank you.

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headphoned's "pause playback on headphone removal" is integrated in 1.2011.22-6.

Of course, all of these features are subject to change in Harmattan release images, as EIPI suggests.

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does N9 or N950 support audio remote control using wire headset. and onemore. does N9 or N950 use separate memory format for installation apps like N900.
thanx anyway

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Lighten up! I am the very happy user of a Nokia N800 internet tablet that I have been using every day since 2007. I may or may not buy an N9. But if I do, I know that I will have all the necessary apps to enhance my life.

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Ok I was with you up until this point...


:confused::confused:

Still Processing..:D I knew I should have gone dual core instead of using the same processor at a 45 nm size!!.:D

=> see what I did there? <= ;)

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The N950 I have does with a WH-701 Nokia headset (from an N8). YMMV.

I don't understand the question. I could guess, in which case the answer is "yes, of course packages need the full expressiveness of a Linux filesystem compared with the FAT32 of the mass storage directories"

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i guess i'm not the right person to criticize your choice of words, am i? ¦-)

nonetheless, consider this...
the N9 is presented to the world, and seems to have @ least the benefit of the doubt as to its ability as a challenger.
even so, the N9 won't be available everywhere in unlimited quantities even though there are obviously manufacturing lines planed for it.

how easy would it have been to pound the N950s and recycle them in a factory's scrap?
why going through all the trouble of sending them all over the world, partly by messenger to avoid trouble w/ the customs, if it was a dead end?

how easy would it have been for the CEO to cancel THAT?

:confused: ;)

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They have come out and said publicly that the n9 will be supported for several years and that updates will be available.

And so what if that OS is "Dead", which I don't think it is, why is it so horrible to purchase one? Don't you still use a n900? You'd rather have no devices in the hands of developers so that even LESS appz will be available? I'm confused a bit by your comments. They seem to be unfounded without any connection to reality..

They are betting the farm on wp7.. Everyone knows this. So to the public they have to appear to be fully behind the platform. But I'm willing to bet my farm that if the n9 is successful, they will release another device. Not to mention the other manufactures that will be running Meego.

tl;dr I don't get all the resentment.. It's not as bad as it seems.

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The best feature of the N950 is: it wont be released to consumers!

Oh, wait...

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yeah, "NDA" and "Agreement" are just words...

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oh, see that, it support audio remote control. wh-701 come with audio remote control.
I mean does n950 use separate partition memory to install like n900 for MyDocs it us vfat, and installation the 2gb one ( i dunno what format memory it is ? )

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WAY WAY WAY better. Just got it yesterday and with only a small charge from 9am to 11pm the battery had 60% left and that was using it all day, using camera, web, email, video and wifi all day

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You can set the networks you like to auto connect with in range :)

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i want an n950.

nokia why you do this to me :(.

i'm jelly all you developers.. i can't even given a option to buy it. later.

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Yes, you can change the settings for each network to not connect automatically though.

I don't think so, but I'm not too sure how the browser handles text sizes, and it's being improved and refined all the time still.

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Oh dear.

Some responses to this:

There will be updates as has been mentioned before and there will most certainly be "appz". Plenty of them. Just not in the tens of thousands.

There is a lot that sucks about the N900 actually that does not suck about the N9, but I realize that was not your point.

MeeGo's future (on phones) is entirely uncertain, and it may never leave the starting holes. Harmattan has plenty of commercial support, and will benefit from Nokia developers porting their applications. It is also awesome and made of unicorns, which should help.

The N950 is almost identical hardware, and runs 99.9% identical software, so worrying about application compatibility is rather silly. The minor differences are well documented and can be accounted for. Obviously it is expected that serious developers will use N9s for their final testing any ways, but necessary it is not.

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ORLY?

N900 - supported at the time and the penultimate step towards the future of nokia. 8 months later, ABANDONED.

N9 - A publicly denounced meeto. 8 seconds later, ABANDONED.

Do you HONESTLY believe that this thing will get support? Really? REALLY? What is wrong with you people?

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not obvious why you are so mad
they got a dev device.
nice for them.
someone said that the N950 not being a consumer device was an advantage.
not sure how that adds up, but strikes me as odd.
feeling more an elite, maybe?

anyway, we got 3 PRs for the N900 and even though we may still think of it as a perfectly okay device, Maemo release policy is limited to one version per device (except for the 770, which had two).
it is going to be up to you to install Hermatan HE on your N900 if you'd like it, otherwise, you have to live with Fremantle.
nothing to get mad @

as to Harmatan's future... what will be will be.
getting utterly mad @ it won' t make a difference, neither :|

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thinking of it, having only 250 ppl having it will seriously limit the contributions; there may be once a NITDroid release for the N9 which will probably also run (more or less) on the N950, but it is likely not to support the hw kbd (well), which makes the whole point of having a N950 rather futile :D

hate NOKIA if you have to
like you said yourself, post it once is okay, even though watching out for offensive wording may help getting your message across, post it twice if you really have to, but the third time it gets trollish, no matter how you put it...

(somewhat) more to the point, the future of Linux / GNU on mobile internet devices may lie with MeeGo and Intel and other mobile handset manufacturers now.
NOKIA may get back to it once the wp barge will have sunk for good (or @ least proven its unpopularity yet again)
'til then... so long, and thanks for all the fish

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i dont believe symbian its gotta survive after 2012.

n8 gets belle thats biggest update nokia will be do.

thanks for n900 hildon-desktop its open source. community was able to save it.

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What support exactly do you want? any HTC device I have owned (or that people I know have owned) did not have more than 3 major firmware updates or more than 1 year support. Cannot says for devices before, they did not have any at that time.
Even the oh-so-supported iphone get 1 major update after one year, and part of a second one after two.


Cannot tell for you, but most people don't buy devices for what they will do in 2 years time (in that case it's just much cheaper to buy 2 years old devices). If the N9 lacks "must have" features for you at 3 months after launch, DONT BUY IT. If it doesn't, buy it if you like it AS IT IS.

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like i said before, what will be will be
the old molly may still have more juice in her then, e.g., the crappy barge it has to howl, now. iPotatos may be popular for those who can afford it or the not quite so cheap plans that usually come w/ it, but for those who have to pay for a "smart phone", Symbian devices may turn out to be the only alternative, if Android gets derailed (either by m$ or by Oracle with the Java licensing claims or both).

if you are refering to the portrait feature, honestly... tried it and don't see the point. the limitation of the N900 as a mobile phone comes from the lack of physical keys to dial (SMS, message, aso.) blindly.
fail to see how portrait vs. landscape changes that, alas :(

personally, i'd rather try... the combination top right ;)

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that rather defeats the point of a coding competition, now, doesn't it?
¦-)

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Not quite, especially if you count all major Maemo updates released by Nokia, including Hacker Editions:

• 770: OS2005, OS2006, OS2007HE, OS2008HE
• N800: OS2007, OS2008, OS2008.1
• N810: OS2008, OS2008.1
• N900: Maemo 5

Clearly, Nokia had to do something to switch away from Maemo. Otherwise, following the trend line, they would have been required to release the N900's successor with no OS at all.

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Agree with erendorn. Before the N900, I had the HTC Hero. Well, I was still waiting for that hallowed 1.6 update by the time that Google had released 2.1 (I think). Unless you have a Nexus, an android device has a software life cycle of about a year, a year and a half tops. You might be able to extend this with cooked roms... if the device has an open bootloader.

On the other hand, there is software continuity, and guaranteed compatibility with other android handsets. You can buy another, more modern android device when your current one gets a bit creaky, and purchased software will just run. That is a huge leg up compared to Maemo, with its quirky (to put it gently) history regarding compatibility between different versions.

I hope that the API compatibility with Meego proper, the rpm packaging and Qt will alleviate the dearth of applications. It is a big bummer to me that this is maemo harmattan and not real meego. I consider that its biggest flaw, and the only thing that makes me have second thoughts about buying the phone.

The fact remains, though, that it appears to be a very competent OS and won't need many apps to plug feature holes of the OS itself. Out of the box, it supports office, IM'ing, has an excellent map application, a very good browser with more alternatives to come, and an e-mail app that works for a change. It does 95% of what I NEED a phone/pda to do as is. For the missing 5%, I'm willing to wait for the appz of find workarounds. And, when it comes to what I WANT to do with a phone/ pda/ pocket computer, which is to mess with it... well, it IS open source.

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What a load of drivel.

I will just point you to the most sold martphone in the known universe and beyond (I am referring the fruit company of course) and its numerous hardware buttons or the lack there of.

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contribute to N900CE(means most of Harmattan) or shut up.

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Why are you and other similar even bother to whine!? Go get your androids instead or contribute to N900CE or get out of here.

There is no ****ing thread in this forum where someone can say something positive. In five seconds its full of garbage, whiners and trolls.

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I just tried to dial blindly with my (very) old phone with keys.
You can only do it if you know where the keys are situated.
Are you sure that this is an issue? :rolleyes:

And btw: all so called smartphones that only have a screen
have this issue: you won't be able to dial blind.;)