The End Of Nokia
 

Read this Post, it is very very creddible

http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...ive-12-mo.html

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Good riddance, the faster Nokia dies, the better.

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They have still lots of cash until they're broke. But honestly, if somebody buys nokia I don't care, as long as they are commited to meego and great hardware.

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Uh, their only commitment to Meego is them trying to kill and discredit it as fast as possible.

Microsoft should just go and buy Nokia already and end this dishonest farce.

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Tomi Ahonen = bitter ex.

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I would say that he is more like an ex that refuses understand that the love is over and desperately tries to cling on despite the straining order.

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there was a time when most of us here were bitter too like Tomi, but guess most have moved on.

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The end of Tomi. He appears to more and more to be the new Eldar. Tomi has become a bitter old fart who's only hope in life is to see his beloved Nokia dead so he can peacefully idolize "his" Nokia, the old Nokia, the "true" Nokia before iPhones and Androids started waltzing around. A true narcissist.

Sorry Tomi, it will never happen. Now, crawl back to your sauna and vodka and leave the future to people with real ambitions for Nokia.

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You know... the more I read stuff like this, the more I think it's truly time to move on.

Being this bitter isn't good for anybody.

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Wow, that was shockingly long. Someone is seriously obsessed. Those points could be made much more succinctly, and without the frantic tone. I think the points have merit and should be considered. But really--take a Xanax.

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I should have stopped after I read the title:

"The Two Existential Threats to Nokia: Why Nokia on Endangered Species List and will not survive 12 months"

Come on, the guy can't even write correctly and then goes on a lengthy diatribe with little to no substance in it. The fact is: the bid to capture market share with an alliance with Mr. Softy will either fail or succeed....nothing more to see here.

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For two seconds there I though you were talking about Dan.

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tl;dr :p

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That's me, without the billionaire part.

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That might not be too long if they continue burning it at a rate of > $1billion per quarter.

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Tommi is just a Symbian troll even if I agree with some of his statements but far from all is correct.

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I thought you had.

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Some stuff makes sense. Anyways, he is kinda overreacting.

Personally, I'd rather see Nokia die after making MeeGo somewhat a succes rather than succeeding for some years to come with WP7 only.

Let's see what the next 4 Q's will show us, we live in interesting times fellow men!

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And yet, I came back for a moment when the N9 was announced.

Don't you worry your little head... when I'm gone, I'll be gone for good.

Mmkay?

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and the hints are getting stronger that nokia will no longer be so it will soon be time for everyone to move on not just gerbick.

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i sort of agree but this is how it talked

im gonna tell you about what i thought of the article and when i tell you you will be shocked about what i am gonna say its such a huge deal what i'm gonna say you will not beleive it.

this is it right here: it was long and winded. you dont beleive me but it was! it was so long it was a huge mistake!!

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What , like this forum you mean ;)

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hey guys c'mon.. i know nokia is having a bad time now.. but they will bounce back.. something inside me tells that N9 will bring success once again to NOKIA.. lets wait.. let N9 hit the roads and then v ll decide about Nokia..

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There is nothing here you haven't seen, you have been staring at this train wreck for the past year, move along move along.

The only reason people care at all is because Nokia showed some love to the open community before shoving it to the sideline, and before opting for a suicide business plan. I am afraid Elop or no Elop Nokia is out.

I just came to pay my respects and say thank you once again my N810 and N900, sure did make me believe even if it was just a fleeting vision, I knew for a while it could be true.

The only vote I had was to buy and sport the Nokia open plan, but alas spending my money on Nokia's Open plan wasn't enough. I can only imagine to Elop and his brethren, it seemed tainted with the filth of the unkempt wilderness of the open and free internet, when everyone wanted the prefabricated sterile suburbia of iOS. So sad. But so long, and thanks again.

My n900 is still hanging in there but I now look for a stable alternate. most of all i will miss all the help and enthusiasm of the community. thank you all! - you too Nokia.... But NOT those mean contractors who squish innovation with WONTFIX to ease there work load.

XXX OOO have fun all.

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"Elop Effect" is in fact a different, but much worse, scenario of Osborne Effect, as Osborne only mistakenly killed his current line of product in favor of his own unreleased product, but Elop deliberately kills his current line of product in favor of someone else's product which was immediately declared obsoleted by its producer.

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A lot of speculation, not a lot of hope... I can remember when Apple was less than 13.00 USD per share, Gil Amelio was pretty much the worst thing for the company despite being a darling at National Semi-Conductor and returning that company from losses to profitability.

Sounds familiar? Change the names and you got Nokia's current situation almost perfectly.

Mind you, companies cycle up and down. This is a downward spiral at the moment. Who knows what it will take, but should things turn around, it'll be in the very, very long-term where this kind of speculation will be rendered useless and wholly inaccurate.

In fact... it's already quite useless and inaccurate; just echoed a lot more loudly due to things like forums, Twitter, Google+, et al. As it stands, let's just see how things play out.

Calling for the end... too early for that. Even a pessimist like myself can say that with full confidence.

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It is too early, even I agree... but man, you can't help feeling like it's HEADING there. I'm sure there'll never be a "last one turn the lights out" moment but I have to wonder how long until someone buys them up just to rape them for their patents.

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Heading there? Hell yes.

But if it will get there is where I have doubts. I mean, if the EU can bail out Greece, I'm sure they'll do the same for Nokia.

Maybe.

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Ahum, Gerbick. The European Parliament is not known for it's smart decisions and coherent thinking. And even less for it's support of the population.

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I did say maybe.

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Ah! Maybe, you say. So overlooked that word.

I am pretty sure that if they would help out Nokia, they'd force the company to revamp win3.1 or so and have a little blue flag as branding on every phone. And of course, locales will consist of all the European languages, so may start your morning graciously with something like this when you boot your phone.

On the other hand: They did hand out massive fines to our friends from Redmon. They? Well, she did.

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are you serious?!? there is no way EU could help Nokia at least directly. it would be political suicide to the guy who even suggests such things...

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Ah, no I was not serious, Ossipena. I guess it's virtually impossible. Could be amusing though, to see them bellies and ties all tangled up in something they wouldn't understand if it would save their lives.

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Another thread about the end of Nokia? Don't we have enough already???

Personally, it's sad to see the direction of Nokia. I've always used Nokia phones, and found them reliable and durable. The designs I used to go for are moderate - straightforward designs, and I used the phone(calls/sms) more than other functions.

Today, a better camera, multimedia capability and some work-organizing functions seemed to take priority over most functions and I was glad when I found that all bundled in the Nokia N900. We should still be thankful to Nokia for bringing that to the market, and hope for something better for Nokia.

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Sorry, but for me Nokia can disappear even today. I'm 100% sure that community is ready enough to modify existing hardware to Maemo/Meego needs (CordiaTAB), and, after 2-3 years, design own, customized hardware (which Open Pandora guys proved doable long time ago).

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For better or worse, Nokia is tightly linked to the region's economy.

I'm sure they've 'build' a few towns and they rank up there with the biggest tax paying companies and one of the largest employer of engineers and whatnot.

The bottom line is: when all things are cnsidered, they matter and they make a positive difference to the region, so they're worth saving.

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Focusing on doom and gloom is not good for you. You want proof? Look at Tomi and danramos - but not for long :D

So, Nokia is not the biggest and badest in smartphones anymore. Get over it, the only thing that matters is if they make cool devices. Ovi store just passed 7 million downloads a day now, and they are accelerating:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...illion_dow.php

Dual sim touch and type S40 (C2 series) is soon to hit the streets with web apps and maps, Ovi store will sky rocket. 1GHz S40 within a year. The N9 is a couple of months away and WP following.

Nokia is far from dead. The old Nokia is dead, and we are starting to see how the new Nokia is forming. They still have lots of time to stumble and screw things up like only Nokia nows how to - but the N9 running Linux and Qt is part of the new Nokia for Christ sake. A phone manufacturer selling the N9 cannot bee all that evil, can it?

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then nokia should be states company, not private company...

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I don't want even a cent of my tax money spent on Elop's dream of mediocrity. We are already wasting billions of national wealth on PIIGs. That is enough money wasted on mismanaged cluster****s.

If goverment should do anything due to Nokia blow up, it should offer start-up money to new businesses that are now popping up from ex-Nokians and to existing small businesses that are looking to hire ex-Nokians.

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Don't worry, it's very unlikely the Federal Government would offer bailout for Nokia, which is just a bad performer in a booming industry, where layoffs from Nokia could easily be absorbed by its competitors.