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Radu 2011-07-30 10:23

Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
It seems that there is a bug or something with the N900. My N810, with Skype logged in, had a standby battery life of days.
The N900 won't even last 6 hours on 3G with Skype or other accounts enabled. On wifi it does slightly better, maybe 18 hours or so.
Is there anything that can be done so it won't access the radio every millisecond, or whatever?

gorgezilla 2011-07-30 10:46

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
hi there....
i tried changing the keep alive mechanism and keep alive period for the sip account but nothing happened. the path for the osso-rtcom is /usr/share/osso-rtcom....maybe this thread will find more sympathy from the gurus of maemo 5....

visN900 2011-07-30 10:53

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
that can be the cause for my battery drain too.. i have skype gtalk and fb.. can anyone explain this?.

Radu 2011-07-30 11:04

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Is, not can.
Once you disable everything, you will notice a big increase in battery life, where your phone won't drain by just sitting in your pocket.

anthonie 2011-07-30 11:04

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Google is your friend.

http://tinyurl.com/42x587b

Radu 2011-07-30 11:11

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
I am glad that you are such an expert on google. Maybe you can also show us what the solution is, by using google?

anthonie 2011-07-30 11:25

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
So, if I understand you correctly, you're happy with the free plate of food you were just served, while you were waiting for an answer, but now you want to be spoon-fed too?

You want me to vacuum your living room as well and do the dishes?

Radu 2011-07-30 11:36

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
I don't need replies from arrogant idiots. If you can provide an useful reply, then do so. Otherwise, please STFU.

anthonie 2011-07-30 12:15

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
1. My machine runs fine. I don't feel like an idiot.
2. Both my replies could have taught you something.
3. If you think that asking for help and STFU'ing on the replies is going to get you more help from other people, please, continue...

Radu 2011-07-30 12:20

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
1. I am glad your machine works fine. But my question was not about your machine.
2. What exactly should your replies teach? Did you give me any info helping solve my problem?
3. If I ask a question, I would expect a useful reply, or at the very least something not demeaning. Telling me to 'google for an answer' that doesn't seem to exist is not helpful.

anthonie 2011-07-30 12:41

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Dude. Spend the time you are typing here on solving your problem. Hint, your initial question has been answered tens if not hundreds of times.

gilamonyet 2011-07-30 16:35

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
You guys are both a great example of what the Maemo community is becoming.

Keep up the good work.

OT:
I could try http://wiki.maemo.org/How_To_Make_Yo...ry_Last_Longer

Radu 2011-07-30 17:20

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
I've read those tips already. The problem is, if you follow most of them, your N900 will not be very useful at all. For example, if you have stuff like Skype, and you expect phonecalls, turning 3G off or Skype off defeats the purpose. And like I said, the N810 didn't have this problem at all (when on WiFi).

lidow 2011-07-31 11:29

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonie (Post 1061060)
Google is your friend.

http://tinyurl.com/42x587b

How did you do that?

lidow 2011-07-31 11:52

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
N900 is great phone for its features, so if a feature is present and find a usage case for it, I prefer this feature to be on.
Currently I have 3g/WIFI auto connect all the time. I have bluetooth on and connected to my handsfree all the time. I have gtalk awlays connected. I have zaplock updating my latitude im backgrouind. I have applied varius tweeks to improve my device speed and bettery life. I'm very happy with my battery life (~40 hours), as it is better than an iPhone and much better than android devices. Both of them could not afford even the half I have.
I also notice that skype and other chat clients are draining battery. So I limit my IM accounts to just 1. I would be happy to see a tweek or something else that will alow me to have all IM on. Anyway it is not possible now, so I'm sticking to Gtalk only.

I do not provide a solution here, just sharing some info about my observations and how I'm using my device.

shadowjk 2011-07-31 13:13

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Depending on operator's settings, lowrate but frequent traffic on 3g can be as battery consuming as a voice call.

geneven 2011-07-31 13:16

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
I vote thumbs down on anthonie. If someone wants to suggest googling, fine, but they should also say what they think is so obvious.

petur 2011-07-31 18:07

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
indeed, anthonie is not behaving properly. Seems to be a problem in this world these days :(

anthonie 2011-07-31 22:56

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Geneven and petur,

Low battery life has been discussed on this forum over and over. Some people have managed to improve their battery life by tweaking, as lidow reported, others have been lucky enough to get Smart Reflex running without reboots, etc.

Apart from that, it is very much dependent on the services you have running, eye candy in use, like live wallpaper, etc.

The information provided by OP does not mention anything about that, it talks about the various IM services available. I guess it's a bit of an understatement to say that the combination of 3G and IM causes a massive battery drain. So either you don't turn them on permanently, or use a different way of connecting. If that's not possible, you'll have to start tweaking.

If OP had followed all those threads and tips already, why did he not make that clear in his posting? I put up the google link, and within the first couple of pages there are plenty of suggestions to be playing for a couple of hours. But instead, OP rather makes a sarcastic remark about "my google experience" or whatever. Still not a word about what he has and what he has not done to improve performance. Well. Sorry, I am not always polite, not always friendly, and when I give a hint but get some remarks like that, I feel little desire to start spoonfeeding.

If the problem in this world today is being caused by people who are not willing to spoonfed, perhaps it's time for people to take things in their own hands and start using fork and knife on their own. OP has been here long enough to know how things work.

When a poster is new, usually I will not give them a lmgtfy-link. We were all new once, but this is not a new and inexperienced user.

I have no intention to offend anyone. Life is difficult enough without being a prick all the time. On the other hand: If people put their time and energy into answering your questions, you might as well react a little bit different than with sarcasm.

Radu 2011-08-01 02:22

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
Quote:

I guess it's a bit of an understatement to say that the combination of 3G and IM causes a massive battery drain.
If you bothered to read my posts, you would have noticed that I also said that this problems happens on WiFi as well, not only on 3G. You would have also noticed that the N810 did not have this problem, so it is obviously a software bug.

anthonie 2011-08-01 05:17

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
You are right, Radu. So right. Forgot to mention your wireless in the last post. I also forgot to mention that the n810 and the n900 are secretly the same phone, running the same OS version, so obviously it must be a software bug, not?

What I also forgot, is to ask whether you had bothered to file a bug report, since you royal Highness already concluded that it must be a software bug...

https://bugs.maemo.org/

iTor 2011-08-01 11:15

Re: Skype, Gtalk, etc. eating the battery raw
 
anthonie, stop the trolling.

You lack so much netiquette you sound childish and arrogant. Stop it.


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