Why didn't Nokia just remaake the N900 for 2012?
 

After watching this N9 <ahem> "Rollout", I can't help but wonder (by bringing up an old dead thread) Why didn't they use the N9 parts to remake the N900-2012 edition. With the additional performance couldn't the newer features simply been an upgrade to an already proven device with a good following? I don't think it will be a stretch to say the N9 will never be more popular than the N900 was due to availability. The PS3, the Xbox 360, why not my N900. I would definately have bought a new one, even if my old one had a working USB port.


I don't honestly think Nokia would ever remake the N900, but I just wish they would have an alternative for my broken USB N900 ( that I wouldnt have to import/ or add keyboard to.).:(

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Possible? Hell yes.

You honestly would say the N950 is just that... faster but same processor, faster clocked, similar GPU, more RAM, more storage, stuff is automatically installed in /opt now.

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Of course it's possible.
Will Nokia do it? Hell no.

That said, quadruple the RAM, put a slightly more modern version of the same CPU in it (faster clock), bump the battery capacity slightly and make the display the size of the N800s (still resistive), and I'd be in line to buy that sucker!

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They just abandoned the N9 before it's release and you hope they will remake the N900 . Sorry , but your hope will die with you . Nokia already took a piss on Maemo and Meego and embraced Microsoft .

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:rolleyes:

Does anybody read the first post before they start commenting?! :mad:

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i think no one:D

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First post redo.:)

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i loved the optimism but believe me this is not least enough to open Elop's eyes . Better leave it all alone .

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If N9 sells wildly, I think they may do just that. Its been their strategy for years to have a slab and companion slider with keyboard.

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We = niche.

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Nokia won't do anything.....that anyone wants. They know what is better for 'us'.

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Ahem, Nokia is doing everything, I mean literally everything, to make sure the N9 fails.

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Didn't they annouce that MeeGo stays in prototype stage and N9 will be prototype device? im sure that i read 'bout that not that long ago. Bassicly N9 will share fate of N900 as niche, underperforming, underdeveloped device with huge potential. IMO

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they did remake the N900 - its called the N950 and Nokia have decided that is not for generl release, and is only available to selected people as a development kit. Which frankly sucks.

Elop and now the board are determined to make windows the only game in town for them, even if that means cutting of their nose to spite their face!

They seem detemined to restrict the N9 to countries where it will not compete against Windows phones.

and there was an article on the register reporting that Ballmer wants to be the third "ecosystem" (hate that word), setting his target not to beat Android or Apple but just being happy to eat their dust. Crazy.

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I'm not naive enough to believe that it's going to make any difference, but, has anyone considered actually starting a petition to Nokia to produce and release the N950, not even as a mainstream phone sold through cellular networks but as an extension of the NIT line, sold outright to those who choose to buy it?

This would be more a publicity stunt than a serious attempt to change Nokia's corporate strategy - I can see the headlines now - "10,000 geeks petition Nokia for developer-only handset" - but that's the whole point. Nokia can (and perhaps will) decline to meet that demand, but, it would be an open invitation to every other capable manufacturer to fill the gap - or it can stick to its mass-market strategy but not decline to sell its hardware to those who want to buy it.

Anyone interested? We'd only need one in five TMO users to hit the 10,000 - and that's surely enough for a bored tech writer to make something out of it...

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So you think Nokia WP will succeed ???
Well just wait, we'll see the sell number over Nokia's WP and N9.

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The N900 actually exceeded Nokia's expectations in sales, this is true.
For a developer phone, it became the nexus, which is how we have our community.

I think Nokia could've re-hashed the N900 and sold it in 2010 to make things interesting.
Nothing fancy, just make it a larger 4" screen, a 5-row qwerty and thinner profile. Boost to an 1.2GHz OMAP3630, add 1GB RAM, and have a 1700mAh battery. Also would be nice to have capacitive screen and portrait mode out of the box.

I would've definitely gotten one had Nokia did those slight improvements ... and so would alot of other people!

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N900 with more RAM and reinforced USB port is all I want. They can leave everything else the same. :)

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I bet they will make a phone with all that hardware with windows phail on it.

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According to Slashgear,
(as written in their review of HTC Pro 7's Wrap Up)

Nokia has told them that they can expect WP device with a keyboard.but they say as it is mythical,you don't know how much to wait for it.
but now wehn it's reality let's see what happens.

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Its become elop's job to make nokia fail at anything but WP. Read this:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...t-iphone-linux

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Like many have said before me and I completely agree with most parts:

• That N950 was supposedly the next generation device for the maemo/meego community. There were a few youtube advertisements about it but because Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo was ousted in favour of Stephen Elop and Ari Jaaski left probably because he couldn't stand Elop made N950 and N9 crippled in both ways.
• That the WP devices will most likely carry Nokia's blessing as it will most likely have all the cool things that maemo/meego devices once have/had on their devices. You can safely bet they will proudly slap a windows logo button like as if its never gone out of fashion. The hint is already within W7/W9 where you can see N9's twin sister is actually powered by mango.
• maemo was originally a happy little niche community that never earned the right to step up to the plate to verse against Nokia's symbian platform and because it did the community went ecstatic whilst the world mocked Nokia's desperate move in making N900 mainstream. With now Elop in power you won't see the same case of having your own cake eat it anymore because he couldn't learn to appreciate the niche communities that Nokia has once built.

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n9, n950, android, ios? my phucking ringpiece. N900 in a sexy aluminium case and a non-cheese usb port is pure sex.

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Ok so I am Oli, the CEO of NOKIA and the year is 2009.
My "best" device is the Nokia N97 and the N900.
The major competitors are the iPhone 3GS, Motorola Droid and the Google Nexus One.

I strategize that the company will split into 3 segments: feature-phones, smartphones and portable computing.
-Firstly my plan would be to terminate S40 and replace it with Symbian^3 (with Belle UX) for feature phones (resistive, ARM11, TFT devices).
-For portable computing this will include tablets ranging from 4 inches (as media players), 7 inches (as pads), and anything higher as slates.
-The smartphone strategy is in the heart of these two developments.

In late 2009, because I have divine powers, I will release the Nokia N8. Within one month all bugs will be crushed and the OVi is going strong. After 8 weeks I roll out an update to N8 to have the Belle interface, along with a revamped application market nicknamed to MaeStore and supports Qt applications.

In early 2010, I will announce the MeeGo foundation, and its role for Nokia.
In Q1 (~April) I will release the Nokia N98, its a very slim Nokia N97 with the N8's guts and software.

I would also buy Palm for $1.5B in April 2010.
Now I have my foot in the American market, and now Apple is under serious litigation from my patent portfolio.

I quickly develop a WebOS device with OMAP3630 that supports WebOS and Qt applications. In early July, I release a 7in (1024x600) tablet for enterprise/developers. This is identical to the tactics of the RIM Playbook.

Later in the year I announce the Nokia N9, a 3.9in slate without front buttons, 800x400 resolution and Harmattan. This device helps me to beat Microsoft to the market, so that I may become the third largest ecosystem, and steals away some sales from the Galaxy S and Apple.

I sue Apple for iPhone 4 patent infringement in Europe and block out their devices (hehe).

During the 2010-2011 year I am developing a new operating system I will call MaeOS, which brings in Maemo 5, Harmattan, and WebOS technologies together. It will be in the centre of the third largest ecosystem. I also convince Amazon and we are partnered (I share Amazon's products, they give me exclusive rights). Also some technologies from Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft.

Now that the growth of Samsung has been hindered (so Android is still second to Apple) and that I've succeeded against Windows Phone, its time to put my long-term strategy in-place.

All S40 is terminated.
A slew of phones replace it, all powered by Symbian Belle, named with one letter and two digits (eg N98).
The tablets get named MaePad, MaePad2, MaeTab, MaeTab (8.9), MaeTab 2, MaeRac (for media players), etc, etc.
Phones are given different names depending on form-factor (flagship 4.0in, 4.5in large, tilt qwerty) (and the cheaper specced 3.2in small, portrait slide qwerty) with a clever number and a nickname for each.

In Q2'11 five MaeOS devices are released (one for each form-factor). Each have an OMAP4430, 1GB RAM, 32GB NAND and lower specced have an OMAP3630, 512MB RAM, 8GB NAND.

The most expensive model is slightly cheaper than the iPhone, so it is also competitive to the consumer. And because of my push with Qt and becoming the third-largest ecosystem (just surpassed RIM) it becomes a development hot-bed.

Nokia pursues opportunities in appliances (car systems, tv systems etc), and adds to the development.

And for the holiday season, I roll out the MaeOS portable computing devices. I also polish up the build, the terms, and the SDK. I open source the Qt-SDK and an emulator for MaeOS (v2.0).

I also announce MaeOS to be licensed which supports the OS, the Intellectual Property (defense from Apple/Microsoft), and the proprietary applications (like the appstore, navigation, amazon books, etc).

I believe had NOKIA played their cards right in this volatile market; Dell, ASUS, Acer, LG, HP, ZTE would adopt MaeOS because of its advantages (faster, newer, less bugs, etc) over Android (or in conjunction with it) especially in regards to patent protection. I think even later, Sony Ericsson would join, possibly even Motorola (doubtful of HTC and Samsung).

Basically, MaeOS will become the new Android, by learning from Google's mistakes, studying the evolution, and jumping in the market with right device at the right time.

Re: Why didn't Nokia just remaake the N900 for 2012?
 

Why didnt they remake the N810? Its annoying with these companies that wont stick to one design, even all the customers who bought told them it was good. Maybe its because like others have already said, "nokia dont care about its customers".

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Its possible that Nokia is being run by Bi-polar heads because this attitude that they have, abandoning every product after release is the reason they have lost so much market share in recent years. Oh well, theres always samsung and htc. galaxy note anyone?

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I know the N900 isn't exactly like the N810, but the way i see it, the N900 is closer to the N810 than anything released afterwards is to the N900.

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The question should be "Why did they hire a guy that used to be brainwashed... er belong to...er.. uhm... 'work for' Microsoft?"

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Because if they did not hire him it would be obvious he is still on Microsofts payrol :)

Jan 2011 Nokia N900x with 1GB RAM, with according OMAP upgrade,fast MMC.
Just don't touch anything else... don't.

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Well, IMO it would be nice if they also included a 3 axial compass and gyro, bigger battery, d-pad like thing in place of inverted T arrow keys layout (inverted T is designed with pointing, middle and ring fingers in mind, doesn't work very well for thumbs), better speakers, reliable data/charger port, IrDA functionality, among a few other things. But definetly not if it costs any of the functionality already present in the N900.

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Ok, I am Stefen, an evil lord in Microsoft corp. It is summer of 2010. Nokia's board of directors have decided to fire Oli and appoint me as the CEO of Nokia. After consulting with prime overlord Ballmer I accept the offered ruling position in Nokia.

I set your Mae platform on fire. I cripple, sabotage and cannibalize the remaining Mae products that are already too far in the pipeline that they can't be cancelled.

It is now february of 2011. I announce Nokia will become Microsoft's slave, to serve overlord Ballmer. I use all Nokia's resources to benefit Microsoft and Windows Phone ecosystem, ruining Nokia in the process. Now Nokia is under the foot of Microsoft.

Your move, Oli.