N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

"Confirmed: The UK Won’t Get The Nokia N9, Either. That’s Two Down. "

http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419...hats-two-down/

Does nokia understand that i am a maemo fan rather than a nokia fan, and that i have ZERO interest in their warmed-over WP7 products?

I want an open phone, and I won't play nokia's game of bait and switch!

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

Next

Finland won't get the Nokia N9, dozen N9 prototype testers found dead.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

lol
nokia doesnt give a **** about the n9 - if this is not evidence what is.

laff at those posters who insist n9 wil be supported by nokia hah

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* Waits for sjgadsby to merge this thread with http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74450 *

:p

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Elop is like a matador, inflicting increasingly harmful wounds deep into the heart of Nokia like an already fatally wounded, once majestic beast.

It makes me so sad. What I don't understand is why I still care? It's not like we didn't already know this was happening. Why can't I just look away?

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

this isn't about support, i don't care if it only gets the three firmware upgrades that my n900 received, what matters is whether i can buy it on a subsidised contract.

this is marketing, nokia ensuring that the N9 doesn't interfere in the launch markets of their WP7 phones, and the only problem to me is that it won't make a blind bit of difference because i am a maemo fan and not a nokia fan.

there is no force under heaven that will persuade me to purchase a W7 phone for personal use, i am no interested.

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Look on the bright side no need for me to now think about spending £500+ on an N9 only to find out in 6 months it is nolonger supported by Nokia and I have wasted my money. It looks like it will now be android phone replacing my N900 when it eventually dies.

I will then be another long term Nokia user jumping off Elop's burning platform.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

I Will be the only one in the world with an n9 :D

No whiners.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

Seriously??? No Seriously?? I would sure want to know where all this faith on their windows strategy comes. Because what I see is that even microsoft does not believe very much in its success and their strategy is pretty much to make android a pain in the @ss for manufacturers hoping that they might use win 7. That is not pretty encouraging for the epic turnover Nokia is dreaming. And also what if they gain 10-15% of smartphone in the US how the hell is that going to help the company???

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http://www.expansys.com/nokia-n9-sma...k-64gb-219479/

I wonder what that is then?

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I can tell you what it is not; an N9 on a subsidised contract.

The N900 was £450 sim-free when it arrived.

My contract was £110 upfront followed by eighteen payments of £20, or £470.

Tell me why i would willingly pay the RRP for a phone in britain when i can get it along with eighteen months of calls, texts and internet for £20 more?

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Because of the chance that it'll be locked down?

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"
catbus@catbus.stop:~$ ping swipe.nokia.fi
PING swipe.nokia.fi (188.117.37.218) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- swipe.nokia.fi ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3023ms
"

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

.... it doesn't even talk about N9 not getting to UK.
It's the same news yesterday with the same line.
"here in the UK there are no plans to offer the Nokia N9 at present"

They are essentially recycling yesterdays news.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

I was just simply pointing out that it is available in UK but it seems I misread the thread title.. missed the "on contract" bit

Anyway, since you asked - you pay if you really want the device and don't pay if you don't want it. It's really simple as that. Personally I try to avoid contracted phones. I'm actually ready to pay extra to stay away from those.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

my T-mobile n900 wasn't, and was advertised as such.

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The N900 had no support for it. However, the N9 does. Too much of a risk, if you ask me.

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i'm not sure what you are saying.........?

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What I am saying is that the N900 had no security system capable of locking the device down. The N9, via Aegis, can be locked down very hard if the carrier wishes.

No developer mode, no develsh, nothing that made the N900 good.

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If there's any chance of the N9 taking off in the UK, it needs to be in phone shops, subsidised on contract.

I don't really care that it's available full-price sim-free through the usual suspects. I'll be getting one even if it involves a weekend trip to Finland, because I'm gullible and the N950 is Bloody Great.

What I would like to see is a bit of word of mouth and people wandering into phone shops, trying it, and getting an upgrade/new contract.
I truly believe that it's the first Nokia handset post-iPhone that you can give to the (mythical) Man On The Street and it'll impress them almost immediately.
If it's only available sim-free at £500+, any potential purchase interest in non-fanboys is killed stone dead. Less adoption = Less reason for Nokia and 3rd parties to continue supporting the phone/platform/ecosystem.

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very much agreed.

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Since when did T-Mobile sell the N900? I bought mine from Amazon (or newegg, can't recall which) because T-Mobile has no phones available that I'm interested in.

Well unless you're talking about non-US T-Mobile, they might have a decent choice.

slaapliedje

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

like many people, i got my UK n900 from mobilephonesdirect on a T-mobile contract.

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Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

meh I don't like being tied to a contract, so it doesn't really bother me. Am really hoping someone gets the ****ing sea ray and installs harmattan onto it as a big **** YOU to nokia.

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Nor me, but you must admit that we're in the minority. Most people go into a phone shop, or to their operator online and pick a new phone to upgrade to. Not having the N9 available through those channels is a massive mistake.
Or rather, it's a calculated gamble on Nokia's part to not distract, confuse, and steal shelf space from their upcoming WP7 launches.

Which new Nokia should I get? The brightly coloured one with the slick interface, or the brightly coloured one with the slick interface? The one that isn't locked to a single app store and has the possibility of deeply-integrated plugin apps, or the one that validates Nokia's new strategy? So many choices!

Totally different chipsets - not gonna happen without some serious hardware adaptation nonsense and multiple copyright breaches.

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it's about the only way i can justify or afford a phone like the n9 or the N900, cos i dont have several hundreds to drop on a phone. Only issue with the n9 was lack of kbd, but i could have lived with that.

I expected this news, and my take on this is that meego on the n9 is knocking the spots of the prototype windows phones and nokia know that people would choose the n9, and that it would be windows phones that proved to be the sham.

it's a bizarre strategy and i would have thought chucking the n9 at as many markets as nokia can and making a few quick quid whilst waiting for the windows phones would have been sensible, spwcially given the reception.

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i can confirm you they are worried, WOMNOKIA (nokia sponsored) twitter account after blogged how i was not going to be able get n9, if i am going to get nokia WP7, I Told em no. >_>

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but the amount of money you spend on a smartphone data plan over the course of the 2 year contract you sign to get your mobile at a reduced price is probably more than the purchase price of the phone outright.

for example: smartphone data plan (30 [your preferred currency]) x two year contract (24 months) = 720

In the US, this is basically why I buy Nokia phones. I get the benefit of high speed data, on AT&T's 10 dollar unlimited data plan. My GF has an iphone and her bill always 45-50 dollars more than mine per month. Not to mention, pentaband phones mean I can switch to another carrier in the event I become dissatisfied with my service.

To those that think AT&T or any other US carrier has your phone's IMEI, they don't. I bought an unlocked Dell Venue Pro (to try out WP7 and because I thought AT&T wouldn't have the IMEI) and after a day of use, AT&T switched my plan. I promptly returned the phone, and called AT&T and told them it was a mistake and that I put my sim in the phone at a Microsoft store to test it out and they switched me back without incident. They asked what phone I had, and I just told them, "oh some Nokia phone" and they said "Sorry about that sir, we'll change it back." I've been doing this since the N91 days.

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How we all buy the phone is not really relavent but what is relavent is that the vast majority of smartphones buyers in the UK purchase their phones with a contract. Therefore no contract N9's will mean very little take up or interest in the UK.

Nokia are effectively killing off the N9 in some of the biggest markets before it is even introduced. As one blog writer said, Tommi?, Elop just doesn't want the N9 to be a success or it will affect his plans for WP7.

It is all very odd!!

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Is it really? I thought it was exactly the same hardware as the N9, and from what Nokia have said Harmattan doesn't require huge hardware adaptations.

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It isn't so odd. Nokia has a clear strategy and doesn't want us as customers.

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A particularly spiteful part of me desperately wants WP to fail spectacularly for Nokia just to prove Elop was wrong for betting the farm.

If he and Nokia were comfortable about Windows, surely they would not be chopping off one leg like this before they have even started.

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Unfortunately so. US & UK both have the possibility for strong WP7 markets, as such, they're not going to release anything to compete with it.

Though, I for one, will be willing to part with my 750 odd dollars if it lets me use an N9 in the US.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

How old is Elop? Am wondering when he's going to die from "natural causes"

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

Not unless it's an act of God sped up by helping hands. He's only 47.

Re: N9 not coming to the UK on contract - Nokia, you bunch of bell-end's!
 

LOL I was thinking they will soon announce that they will only be shipping the N9 to Myanmar with a Burmese script keyboard and no other language support, suck on that gray market ;)

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Not saying that this is not the case, but I have a very hard time understanding the logic behind that.
It's a free market, with MANY good phones coming up every month. It's not like you can only buy Nokia phones.. So if someone doesn't want a WP7 phone and they can't get a N9, they will buy an Android, or iphone 5 or whatever, which means that Nokia will lose money.
As the saying goes, it is better to compete with yourself than with your competitors.

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Sorry for the double post, this will be of interest :)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...31#post1067731

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cheers, it has prompted an email of my own:

Dear Mr Elop,

Please understand that I am not writing to you to rant about the WP7 direction, I accept the fact that Nokia did not believe Meego would bring them the level of success deemed necessary, rather I am worried that Nokia's WP7 marketing strategy will prevent me from acquiring a Nokia N9 on a typical carrier subsidised contract within the UK.

I have no doubt that I will be able to buy an N9 from etailers such as Play.com, etc, but the N900 which I have happily used since its UK launch was £450 sim-free when it arrived, whereas my T-mobile contract with an unlocked handset was £110 upfront followed by eighteen payments of £20, or £470 in total. I am very keen to own and use a Nokia N9 but question why, in the UK, I would willingly pay the RRP for a phone when I can get it along with eighteen months of calls, texts and internet for £20 more.

I understand that you would urge me to have a closer look at Nokia's new, and no doubt innovative, WP7 handsets that will be arriving in the near future, but I remain uninterested in them just as I remain uninterested in iPhones or Android phones. I merely seek reassurance that Nokia's UK product support for the N9 will not preclude UK carriers from offering this handset on contract?

If you can offer this reassurance then I will be a very happy person, and can promise to remain a happy Nokia customer for years to come.

Kind regards

JBT