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kingoddball 2011-08-25 09:46

Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
As some of you may know, I have bought a Galaxy s2.. I love the speed and power!


Now... Android, yes. fun. nice. Open Source..

****!

I got a chroot running, it's nice. Really. Even using the VNC, I'm happy with it. But god damn! Android is just SO BOXED IN!

I want to add my own icon to the program (app? Ew) menu to boot a custom chroot I'm going to build. I can't figure it out!
I do not want to compile and entire application (I can't say "app"!)/program just for a damn shortcut!
Screw that!

I just can't stand some parts of android, although some parts are just A-OK!

This is not a rant, just an observation. Android is great for a "basic" end user who can not afford an iPhone. It's really becoming a great os now, but it's just not what I need anymore!
I need the power and tweakabiliy of Maemo! hehe...

Luckily I kept my N900 (had to buy it back after I sold it).

I'm starting to think maybe I'll get an N9 if/when it comes out, hopefully everyone (I can hope!) here moves to meego so we can hack and dev once again on new hardware!

Also, a little off the "odd" topic:

Can Meego run in a CHROOT on android like it can on our little N900? :eek:

tuxsavvy 2011-08-25 09:57

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
I don't know if Android can run Meego in a chroot environment but I do know Android users can run for example ubuntu or even backtrack 5 on their Android handhelds as long as its compiled for ARM (which is needlessly obvious).

I wouldn't know if Android's sort of chroot would be similar to N900.

AndiThebest 2011-08-25 10:06

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
With android, you have a phone again. N900 is not a phone.
I have the same problem with my LG P920 ;)

geekgirl74 2011-08-25 10:12

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
This might be a solution for you:
http://mobilecruze.com/android/andro...-icons-v4-1-9/
You can use it with launcher pro.
And:
http://androidforums.com/droid-suppo...ons-droid.html
(posting 4, not sure if you need root though)

Daneel 2011-08-25 10:44

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Aside from all the things Android did to move away from standard Linux i just plain dislike the interface on Android 2.
Android 3 on the other hand seems yummy.

kingoddball 2011-08-25 11:05

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
I have not used android 3. Well, not properly. I am running Android X86 as a VM, which is 3.1 using ADW launcher... Stupid

debernardis 2011-08-25 13:01

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1076292)
I want to add my own icon to the program (app? Ew) menu to boot a custom chroot I'm going to build. I can't figure it out!
[...]
Can Meego run in a CHROOT on android like it can on our little N900? :eek:

Hi, kingoddball, I do the shortcut thing with http://www.appbrain.com/app/script-m...scriptmanager#
If anybody has a more elegant solution, please post and I'll be grateful :D
And, I second you in wanting to try MeeGo in a chroot (even if once we get Debian, we have all we need imho).

volt 2011-08-25 13:09

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I did try to install Linux on my Blade. Alas, I wasn't as successful as with EasyDeb on the N900.But at least it should be possible to get a virtual OS up and running.

mscion 2011-08-25 14:04

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1076292)
As some of you may know, I have bought a Galaxy s2.. I love the speed and power!
...
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Can Meego run in a CHROOT on android like it can on our little N900? :eek:

Many folks like myself love the N900 and plan on keeping it, but would also like to take advantage of the HW capabilities of the current and upcoming android devices. I really like the idea of having the option of making the user experience on an android phone as much as possible like the N900. Having something like Easy Debian, Meego or Maemo would be awesome on android device. I hope this thread turns epic in doing so and would also help in making transition back and forth from maemo to android or meego to android and so on a fun thing to do...

mikecomputing 2011-08-25 17:22

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android has always been a halfbacked linuxjoke :/

jo21 2011-08-25 17:40

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
install a custom rom that fills ur need

by the wp7 is even worse =.=

Wreck 2011-08-25 17:58

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1076292)
This is not a rant, just an observation. Android is great for a "basic" end user who can not afford an iPhone.

Wait what?
Why would someone want to buy an Iphone? People who buy an Iphone do not care about open-source. They would rather want fart apps and be under the supervision of Tim Cook(Steve Jobs).

People who buy android at least took one look at what you could possibly do with it. Not only making people laugh with your lousy applications that you would never use when your not with your friends.

switch-hitter 2011-08-25 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball
This is not a rant, just an observation. Android is great for a "basic" end user who can not afford an iPhone.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreck
Wait what?
Why would someone want to buy an Iphone?


I was also surprised by that comment, Android offers a lot more freedom than the iPhone does.

kingoddball 2011-08-26 10:59

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Most people who buy (not all!) Android are people who want the iPhone but do not want to pay the monthly cost or outright costs.

I'm not saying everyone, but most people I know who have the little green Droid is because of iPhone costs.
I went the Galaxy S2 because the iPhone 5 was not out nor was the iPad fully (hardware) jailbroken, only userland.

Reffyyyy 2011-08-26 11:13

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1076943)
Most people who buy (not all!) Android are people who want the iPhone but do not want to pay the monthly cost or outright costs.

I'm not saying everyone, but most people I know who have the little green Droid is because of iPhone costs.
I went the Galaxy S2 because the iPhone 5 was not out nor was the iPad fully (hardware) jailbroken, only userland.

Most people I know aren't even aware that Android exists. When I am asked what phone to buy, they'll always express how they want a "HTC Phone". The general public don't really care about Open Source.

don_falcone 2011-08-26 12:47

Re: Android.... Sh!!!T it sucks (mostly)
 
Like my girl. She always refers to the Wildfire S as the "HTC". Same as to the Mozart / HD7.


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