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sytheii 2011-08-31 22:18

My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
I need some help. I am worried that my phone might be dead, which would really be a super bummer. I had downloaded nokia software updater to reinstall pr 1.3, but somehow during this process the program lost the device, i had like 80 % battery when i attemted it. After nokia software updater said it had lost the device, it said that i should try to recover it, but the steps it said to do did not work...it failed after trying to recover.

Did i brick my phone? Is all lost? any help would be greatly appreciated.

sytheii 2011-09-01 02:45

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Can anybody chime in here? My searches don't really turn anything useful up, and the only other method i have found to reinstall the os software is using maemo 5 flasher....but when i plug the usb into the computer while simultaneously holding down u....the flasher 3.5 doesnt seem to recognize the device.

I am really worried i have trashed my phone....all i wanted to do was put maemo back to stock....but now i cant even use my phone...can anybody help?

coderedcomputing 2011-09-01 03:00

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
What OS are you using when you are doing the reflash?

If it is a 64-bit OS, try this:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...reflash&page=6

sytheii 2011-09-01 04:02

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderedcomputing (Post 1079808)
What OS are you using when you are doing the reflash?

If it is a 64-bit OS, try this:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...reflash&page=6

It is a 64bit OS, specifically windows 7, I followed the process described in that post, but my question now is;

what should i do to now attempt a reflash of maemo? should i use nokia software updater, or try the method of using maemo flasher along with the downloaded bins like on this site...


http://mynokiablog.com/2010/01/03/ho...et-nokia-n900/


I really, really, don't want to brick my phone if it isnt already beyond hope, and would greatly appreciate any recommendations if anyone has them.

Thank you again by the way.

thumbs 2011-09-01 05:34

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
if it doesnt boot up then you cant use nsu.
I could never get maemo flasher to work using windows 7.but it flashes easily every time using windows xp or vista.

sytheii 2011-09-01 05:53

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thumbs (Post 1079841)
if it doesnt boot up then you cant use nsu.
I could never get maemo flasher to work using windows 7.but it flashes easily every time using windows xp or vista.

I have read a little bit from that other thread, and it seems like this may be the issue...i will have to get my hands on a 32 bit xp machine and try to fix this later i guess.

thumbs 2011-09-01 06:07

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
dont forget to use a fully charged battery,

sytheii 2011-09-01 07:21

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Right, I dunno, what do you think the status of my phone is right now? I have no idea why the initial go failed, but as of right now, i cannot turn my phone on...it goes into usb mode alright it seems....icon in top right, with the nokia background...but all i get is a continuous repeat of the grey dots if i try to turn it on, it wont boot into maemo...do you think my phone will be alright?

corduroysack 2011-09-01 09:25

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
noticed a lot of new users failing to use search and starting another duplicate thread FFS use GOOGLE and add maemo or maemo.org to your search!

sytheii 2011-09-01 16:49

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
In my defense as far as the search goes...i did perform a couple, but nothing useful came up, i had no idea the issue was an OS incompatibility as opposed to something with the phone.

erendorn 2011-09-01 16:53

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
I think it is extremely hard to brick N900 through software (but don't try to prove me wrong ;) ), and when it's hardware related, well, no software manipulation will save/doom you.
As often advised, a quick solution can be to boot a ubuntu live CD or usb stick, and use flasher from that.

sytheii 2011-09-01 17:53

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1080121)
I think it is extremely hard to brick N900 through software (but don't try to prove me wrong ;) ), and when it's hardware related, well, no software manipulation will save/doom you.
As often advised, a quick solution can be to boot a ubuntu live CD or usb stick, and use flasher from that.

Hey, exactly, HOW do i do that? lol I just burnt a live cd for natty, 32bit, but how do i run the flasher through here? I am feeling slightly ridiculous because i can't figure out what i just did, i copied the maemoflasheri386.deb install package to a flash drive along with the two .bins i need, but after "installing" the package....i cant figure out how to run the flasher program...how do i do this? lol

i think what i need is a portable version of the flasher program for linux...but from what i could see, only the .deb install package was there...maybe i'm wrong, any tips?

coderedcomputing 2011-09-01 18:07

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Did you ever attempt to use the Windows box? If you were able to create the .inf file then the maemo flasher should work.

I'm actually reloading a windows 2008 server right now and for kicks i'm going to try to run the flasher off that and see how it goes.

Try following this guide, it has worked for me in the past (just make sure you get the correct .bin files)

http://thenokiaguide.com/2010/01/11/...sets-all-data/

sytheii 2011-09-01 18:15

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coderedcomputing (Post 1080160)
Did you ever attempt to use the Windows box? If you were able to create the .inf file then the maemo flasher should work.

I'm actually reloading a windows 2008 server right now and for kicks i'm going to try to run the flasher off that and see how it goes.

Try following this guide, it has worked for me in the past (just make sure you get the correct .bin files)

http://thenokiaguide.com/2010/01/11/...sets-all-data/

When I used that utility that you reccomended, i did find one item in the list of things that popped up, there were 3 items...1 i cant remember, 2 was for a camera, and the 3rd was N900 usb data mode or something like that....i clicked on that one and went through it.

But when running the flasher program, it still did not detect "a suitable usb device"

i am leaning towards trying it on a system that is geared to normally work, and see how that goes as opposed to trying to jury-rig something up.

As of this moment, i am booting into a 32bit live cd of natty narwal, but for the life of me, i dont know how to run the flasher/install the flasher program .deb i downloaded...any help in this arena?

coderedcomputing 2011-09-01 18:21

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Have you looked through the steps on here?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...firmware#Linux

sytheii 2011-09-01 18:21

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Ok, I'm an idiot, i found out that the utility is installed right now...but I am unsure of how to point to the .bin files i have...

I am going off of directions found here

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...firmware#Linux

ASSUMING the phone is recognized and found by the utility, how do i point to the .bin files that i currently have on a flash drive connected to my comp for lines like this...in terminal;

sudo flasher-3.5 -F <firmware-image> -f -R

EDIT: Is this true???

If the USB logo does not appear, and the device turns off - ensure the battery is charged by connecting to the wall charger for an hour and try again. Bear in mind that neither the wall charger nor the USB cable will charge the N900 battery if the N900 cannot boot the OS.

I have had the phone plugged into the wall all night...does this mean that it hasnt been charging at all?

sytheii 2011-09-02 07:00

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
well, i may be just not too versed in linux, but i couldn't figure out how to tell the flasher program how to find the .bins i had using the live cd. if i had been using a 32bit version of linux i'm still curious how you point to those files, if anyone wants to illuminate me.

I ended up getting my hands on a 32bit windows box, and the flasher program worked as advertised, really quite well. also, i don't think its true that your battery wont charge when your n900 cant boot into the os, because my battery was 100% full after i had it in the wall for a while.

In any case, I've got a fresh copy of 1.3, and wanted to say thank you to all the helpful commentators.

magick777 2011-09-02 08:47

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sytheii (Post 1080410)
well, i may be just not too versed in linux, but i couldn't figure out how to tell the flasher program how to find the .bins i had using the live cd. if i had been using a 32bit version of linux i'm still curious how you point to those files, if anyone wants to illuminate me.

The convention when describing commands is that compulsory parameters are enclosed in "< >" whilst optional ones are enclosed in "[ ]", so the "-F <firmware image>" means "replace <firmware image>" with the path to the .bin file".

So, for instance:

flasher-3.5 -F /home/magick/Downloads/RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin -f -R

Oh, and you don't have to type all that. Linux supports tab-completion, so I would type "/h" (tab) "m" (tab) "Down" (tab) "RX-" (tab) and the shell fills it in. Much nicer than a DOS prompt.

Glad you got it sorted, though.

erendorn 2011-09-02 10:52

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sytheii (Post 1080410)
well, i may be just not too versed in linux, but i couldn't figure out how to tell the flasher program how to find the .bins i had using the live cd. if i had been using a 32bit version of linux i'm still curious how you point to those files, if anyone wants to illuminate me.

Sorry I couldn't help you then, it's true it might not be straightforward. I may try to write a small help on how to do that at some point.

sytheii 2011-09-07 07:49

Re: My reinstall of maemo 5 failed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magick777 (Post 1080454)
The convention when describing commands is that compulsory parameters are enclosed in "< >" whilst optional ones are enclosed in "[ ]", so the "-F <firmware image>" means "replace <firmware image>" with the path to the .bin file".

So, for instance:

flasher-3.5 -F /home/magick/Downloads/RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin -f -R

Oh, and you don't have to type all that. Linux supports tab-completion, so I would type "/h" (tab) "m" (tab) "Down" (tab) "RX-" (tab) and the shell fills it in. Much nicer than a DOS prompt.

Glad you got it sorted, though.

Wow. That is handy! You see, this is the problem with Linux for me, all of these things that for the most part I learned with windows and dos, I do not know on Linux, ie, the terminal.

I really do enjoy linux, especially ubuntu as an os, but i cannot tell you how many times i have had to do a google search and forum posting just to accomplish things that are either gui'ed and fired up and ready to go in windows, or for really simple stuff that is simply just managed through navigating and working through the terminal.

I guess its just a function of experience and time :) Thanks again!


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