Best U.S. 3g GSM phone recommendation for the n800
 

What is the fastest and most compatible phone to use with N800 for DUN. I currently have the AT&T 8525 with latest update which does not work with the n800 right now. It needs to be 3g.

Thanks

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Cingular 8525 is 3G. It's like the best 3G phone from Cingular to date..
It should work just fine (but then again, if you have a Windows PocketPC, what's the point of connecting it to N800 to access internet, really).

I suggest get something more simple like the new samsung Sync or Razr V3xx. You can use Cingular's Unlimited MediaNet with it.

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ii have cingular and a samsung snyc and it works fine. You will have to get the data
plan of course but its cheaper than the data plan with the 8525.

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My current plan with Cingular/ATT will expire in a couple of months but I can upgrade sooner. If I get the right phone will the cheapest $19.99 media plan from ATT be sufficient to access the Internet and, most importantly, use Skype on my N800?

I saw that T-Mobile has the $29.99 Internet option (including Hot Spot access). Is that any better than what ATT has to offer? Any specific phone recommendations in addition to the ones mentioned above? Thanks for your help.

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The best value for cingular is the Samsung Sync. Not crazy about the phone (the look especially), but if youre mostly gonna use it for 3G, I say get that. And yes, you can use the $19.99 media plan for tethering with your N800 (except that you need to modify the setting a little bit).

T-Mobile doesn't have 3G (yet)

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ATT/Cingular uses HSDAP (AKA "3.5G") not UTMS. I know Treo 750 (after the update) and HTC Tytn (8525) support it.

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ATT/Cingular's HSDPA network is pretty pitiful right now. It is only deployed in something like 17 major metro areas and speed test results aren't showing data rates much faster than EDGE. T-mobile bought a bunch of spectrum for doing 3g GSM and they should be able to create a network that is more competitive with the CDMA data providers. Unfortunately, it is anyone's guess as to when their rollout will occur. In short, 3g GSM is pretty pitiful in the US.

As for phones, I stopped by Nokia Experience Center at the Alderwood Mall north of Seattle yesterday and spent about half an hour playing with the N95 "superphone." That is one damn fine phone, if you don't mind dropping $650 on one.

-Quad band GSM
-3g data, but only on european frequencies
-5 megapixel camera
-WiFi
-A2DP
-Dual slider function for accessing keypad or multimedia controls
-GPS

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v3xx is what i use. i also heard that sync is just as good, but i know v3xx has the faster modem? anyone know of the syncs modem?

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Yeah the 8525 is a great phone but it does not work because the n800 does not support bluetooth pan. From my understanding that is how you connect now with 8525. Also have you ever tried to surf the web on a pda - it sucks. So I am going to sell my 8525 (it is unlocked by the way) and get a slim 3g phone that works wih this.

I would like to know if there is a way to use the 8525 with latest firmware as a modem for the n800. I dont think you can unless you create some script. So if someone knows how please post a step by step how-to.

Thanks

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I thought I would start contributing since I have been reading the forums for about a month since I got my 770.

I use a Blackjack and have shelved a 8125 to use it. Before that I used misc other PDA phones and the Blackjack is fantastic. The size and functionality are better than anything Cingular has right now.

The 770 is bigger than most phones and I don't want to carry that and a large phone as well.

You have to do the usual stuff mentioned on the board to get the PAN to work, but if you follow the directions it's not that big of a deal since someone else already wrote the script.

My biggest issue was realizing you need to add your bluetooth MAC at the beginning of the script and it started working.


-Tom

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hi tom, ive been reading that the blackjack cant sync with the n800? if so, how to do it?

thanks!

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I thought I read somewhere that the script for the 770 can be used to tether the PAN for the 800 but you don't need to use ins mod line because it was already compiled into the kernel.

Everything I read was that out of the box neither the 770 nor the 800 can tether via PAN without running this script posted on this board.

This is the script I am using w/ the 770:

#!/bin/sh
PATH='/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11'
BTADDR='Cingular Blackjack Bluetooth Mac Address'
IP=192.168.0.170
GW=192.168.0.1
NS=192.168.0.1
IFACE=bnep0

hciconfig hci0 up

#insmod just to be sure
insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/current/bnep.ko
#start PAN Bluetooth connection
pand --connect $BTADDR

# wait for the interface created by pand
s=60
echo -n "Waiting $s secs for $IFACE"
while [ $s -gt 0 ] ; do
ifconfig $IFACE >/dev/null 2>&1 && break
s=$((s-1))
echo -n "."
sleep 1
done
echo
if ifconfig $IFACE >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
# bring it up
echo "OK, bringing $IFACE up"
ifconfig $IFACE $IP up
route add default gw $GW
echo "nameserver $NS" >/tmp/resolv.conf.lo
else
echo "Error: $IFACE not available."
fi

Re: Best U.S. 3g GSM phone recommendation for the n800
 

V3xx works for tethering the N800. I'm using it now.

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I have a Samsung A717 that works perfectly. Little smaller than the Sync with more features. Goes for pretty cheap with a contract right now. I get about 50KB/sec at the low end (EDGE is about 10KB/sec) which goes to around 150KB/sec depending on signal strength. Quite reasonable for browsing and works perfectly with Rhapsody. Unfortunately, there's a blackout area right on my way home from work so I can't really listen to Rhapsody in the car there. :(Signal strength is pretty good for most of the city (St. Petersburg, FL) even indoors in most places. I really like the phone as it's very small and perfect for voice/data usage and my N800 can do everything else.

The RAZR v3xx has the advantage of having a 3.6Mbps modem (versus the 1.8Mbps modem in every other model in their lineup right now). That said, AT&T hasn't actually turned on the 3.6Mbps speeds and it probably wont happen before the end of the year.

The MediaMAX Unlimited plan will work fine for tethering as long as you change the "isp" in the login info to "wap". Just try to keep your bandwidth usage down and don't tell any reps. :P

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I've tethered my N95 with my N800 successfully....the N800 detects the phone and sets everything up automagically.
Works like a charm. The plan I have is T-Mobile's $40-a-month for 1000 minutes, unlimited nights and weekends and with their $30-a-month unlmited internet.
Yes, their EDGE speeds are pathetic compared to AT&T's newly-revamped EDGE (yes, I've used BOTH in the past 30 days) but T-Mobile is a little more "flexible" with my globe-trotting work/lifestyle.
And having an unlocked N95 with PAYG chips for Europe/Africa/ME works wonders.

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hi tom, thanks for the script. so after running that script on the n800, do you just sync normally with the blackjack as if the blackjack is tethering to the pc? do you have to run the script everytime you want to connect to the internet?

ive also read that doing this, opera doesnt work? does all the functionality of the n800 connection work?

thanks!

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Well I got my 8525 to work see this link for the how-to

But now I have this brand new unlocked Motorola v3xx that is Full-Data Rate for better cell tower connection and is converted to be QUAD band capable and I have no use for it anybody interested? I got it for $280 and would sell it for $250 (firm) including USPS priority mail within the United States. It also comes with 1GB Micro SD card Motorola Phone tools 4.5 (for sync'ing to outlook) and all original packaging.

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How did you convert it to Quad band? I got one, and it's three band..

Thanks!

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I didn't do it, but the phone has the capability to be quad, but it is just locked out in the firmware. There are people who can unlock this feature on the web.

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Oh wow! That's awesome! Quad-band GSM and three-band WCDMA! I want it! Hehe..

Any idea where I can have it unlocked like that? Most unlock service only unlocking it from the carrier..

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I got my phone from this guy here is the link

I'm not sure if he will do phones he didn't sell, but you can always ask.

-Matt

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OK, I just got a Samsung Sync (not exactly on purpose, check out my blog if you want the full story), and since it has 3G, I'd REALLY like to tether the N800 to it. Reading through the thread, I'm a bit confused as to which "how to" guide I should be reading for my phone and N800. Specific pointer please?

TIA,
Ewan

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Ok, so i have an option of getting the Samsung Sync or the Razr V3xx. Which one do you guys think i should get? I'm gonna use it for HSDPA surfing on my N800, so i want the best hassle free experience.

Suggestions?

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I've got a Tmobile Wing that I am trying to make this work on... any pointers for a NOOB??

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Just download the WM6 DUN cab file from xda-developers and install it on your wing. After that, just go through the standard process of phone pairing through you're N800. I'm using it with my HTC Wizard (EDGE) right now and it works just like it should...

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Are there additional packages that I need to install? It still doesn't work for me.. I run this script as root via SSH and it gives me the output below. The bluetooth mac is not the one from the phone even though thats the one I've put into the script. (My bluetooth keyboard maybe??) Any ideas?? I do have the DUN cab installed...

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Got it working via a much simpler method posted here...
http://linuxgadgets.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the help anyway!

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Hello, I recently just bought a N800 and am trying to pair it with my blackjack using that linux blog but for some reason whenever i type the commands in xterminal it doesnt do anything. Ive searched on this forum and basically all i can find is saying how you need a script to run it. Thank you in advance.