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knobby 2011-09-24 03:36

Video calling on n900
 
Hello Everyone...!
can anyone tell me why there is no video calling support over 3G on n900...
and if it is possible in near future...
thanks in advance...

TiagoTiago 2011-09-24 04:44

Re: Video calling on n900
 
My guess is Nokia didn't thought things thru and washed their hands when people showed more interest in the N900 than they expected.

knobby 2011-09-24 04:53

Re: Video calling on n900
 
but still lack of video call support makes me feel inferior in front of my friends... :(

peter2p 2011-09-24 08:53

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knobby (Post 1094900)
but still lack of video call support makes me feel inferior in front of my friends... :(

you don't have to feel inferior to your friends, it is possible to video call with N900, i use skype very often, phone to pc and sometimes google video chat, also phone to pc, i hope to do this phone to phone but i have no contacts with a N900

Straycat 2011-09-24 09:03

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter2p (Post 1094950)
you don't have to feel inferior to your friends, it is possible to video call with N900, i use skype very often, phone to pc and sometimes google video chat, also phone to pc, i hope to do this phone to phone but i have no contacts with a N900

skype video call? How do you do it, please?

I've do google video call pc to N900, but it was always pc wich do the work.

I mean:

pc -> N900 => No problem.
N900 -> device => Unable to do it.

Thanks.

peter2p 2011-09-24 09:15

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Straycat (Post 1094955)
skype video call? How do you do it, please?

I've do google video call pc to N900, but it was always pc wich do the work.

I mean:

pc -> N900 => No problem.
N900 -> device => Unable to do it.

Thanks.

Go for settings, VoIP- and chataccounts
New
Select Skype
enter your username and password for skype and save

Straycat 2011-09-24 09:47

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter2p (Post 1094960)
Go for settings, VoIP- and chataccounts
New
Select Skype
enter your username and password for skype and save

Yes, I have my skype account already saved.

And I can call across skype. But not video call.

knobby 2011-09-24 09:56

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peter2p (Post 1094950)
you don't have to feel inferior to your friends, it is possible to video call with N900, i use skype very often, phone to pc and sometimes google video chat, also phone to pc, i hope to do this phone to phone but i have no contacts with a N900

...thanks for ur advice but most of my friends don't use skype...they just call each other via GSM 3G connection which my N900 cannot do...its really annoying...

pali 2011-09-24 10:16

Re: Video calling on n900
 
3G video calls is not supported by Nokia N900 HW or only in maemo software? Meego (and other systems) use ofono, which is open source. If N900 HW support 3G video calls, should be it supported by ofono?

knobby 2011-09-24 10:21

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1094979)
3G video calls is not supported by Nokia N900 HW or only in maemo software? Meego (and other systems) use ofono, which is open source. If N900 HW support 3G video calls, should be it supported by ofono?

hey man...i m not an expert in this field...pls explain...

pali 2011-09-24 10:29

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knobby (Post 1094982)
hey man...i m not an expert in this field...pls explain...

Maemo on Nokia N900 for GSM/3G network support use some closed source programs. And (closed) Dialer/Call GUI application for calls use this 3G closed programs for start/stop audio calls.

Meego on Nokia N900 use for GSM/3G network support open source ofono daemon. Also Dialer GUI application is open and use ofono.

My question was: Is problem with 3G video calls in closed Maemo 3G programs or phone N900 does not support 3G video calls at hardware level?

If problem is only in Maemo 3G network program (and 3G video calls is supported by HW in phone), we can use (patch/develop) open source ofono (on Meego) for 3G video calls. And if ofono does not support it yet - support can be added - because ofono is open source and some ofono hackers know N900 network stack.

peter2p 2011-09-24 10:49

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knobby (Post 1094972)
...thanks for ur advice but most of my friends don't use skype...they just call each other via GSM 3G connection which my N900 cannot do...its really annoying...

@knobby
I just checked on my phone
settings, phone, by Networkmodus i have the choise for Dual, 3G or GSM.
originaly it was set on 2,5G
i chose 3G and saved, it worked.
now i changed back to dual and it stays on 3G.

@Straycat
You have to try a few times, to and back, i had the same problem but now its working fine.

knobby 2011-09-24 11:08

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1094984)
Maemo on Nokia N900 for GSM/3G network support use some closed source programs. And (closed) Dialer/Call GUI application for calls use this 3G closed programs for start/stop audio calls.

Meego on Nokia N900 use for GSM/3G network support open source ofono daemon. Also Dialer GUI application is open and use ofono.

My question was: Is problem with 3G video calls in closed Maemo 3G programs or phone N900 does not support 3G video calls at hardware level?

If problem is only in Maemo 3G network program (and 3G video calls is supported by HW in phone), we can use (patch/develop) open source ofono (on Meego) for 3G video calls. And if ofono does not support it yet - support can be added - because ofono is open source and some ofono hackers know N900 network stack.

thanks a lot man...but i really don't know the answer...hope someone knows about it...

pali 2011-09-24 11:12

Re: Video calling on n900
 
@knobby: yes, I do not asking you :) but somebody who know answer...

Radicalz38 2011-09-24 11:53

Re: Video calling on n900
 
@pali
ofono & n900 has the capability to do 3g video calls as only HW requirement for 3g video call is a camera(either back or front would do) + AFAIK ofono do support 3G-324M protocol which is used by 3g VOIP/video calls.

I really hoped I could help but last time I developed on a mobile platform was 3 years ago... Now I am a web developer :( plus it was still symbian.

Radicalz38 2011-09-24 12:00

Re: Video calling on n900
 
update

Yup confirmed ofono indeed can do it. It has CS Network support based on the diagram.
http://www.protocolpolice.com/~aki/ofono-640.png

@offtopic
It also supports sim management wonder why nokia didn't even add a simtoolkit on our n900 (>.<)

pali 2011-09-24 12:07

Re: Video calling on n900
 
So is time to replace proprietary maemo phone stack with ofono :-) ?

knobby 2011-09-24 12:24

Re: Video calling on n900
 
means that video calling is possible over 3G in N900...???

Radicalz38 2011-09-24 12:26

Re: Video calling on n900
 
Uhh I could develop apps but never in my life tried working with drivers and stuff so no idea... But seeing how e-yes did ofono on nitdroid I can see how hard it is lol

knobby 2011-09-24 12:35

Re: Video calling on n900
 
wish somebody cud make it happen.. :(

pali 2011-09-24 17:29

Re: Video calling on n900
 
I created thread about Meego 3G video calls here:
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4608

fffffred 2012-01-26 03:17

Re: Video calling on n900
 
bump, any development on this?

fffffred 2012-01-26 23:46

Re: Video calling on n900
 
to answer my question... not really, but i'm sure if we give it a good crack, we can go somewhere with it...

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39400


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