MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition Fall Release out
 

From http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...er/000739.html

In addition to that mail, as stated in another thread, we also have a new steering group in place. This is modelled on lcuk's proposal from http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/CE_Steering_Group

Steering group is: Carsten Munk (Stskeeps), Jukka Eklund (jukkaeklund), Tom Swindell (alterego), Marko Saukko (Sage) and Vesa-Matti Hartikainen (veskuh)

Their first meeting will be this Tuesday at 11:00 UTC, public and on IRC in #meego-meeting on irc.freenode.net - I'm sure there's a lot of questions what now, with this Tizen news and all.

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Is the swap bug fixed for native installation on the N900 instead of the external card?

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Great news!!!
Thank you very much!

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We typically test with the microSD card so I don't have an overview if it's 'fixed'. Let me explain the problem in question.

MeeGo images come in 4gb sizes - it's a image file that pretty much contains the exact data of a SD card. What is being written to the eMMC is exactly this data, no more, no less

The 'part' lines in this indicate how the partition layout looks like.

This means that when the image is installed, the eMMC is partitioned as such:

p1: 3.6gb ext4
p2: 8mb swap
p3: 32mb FAT partition
<rest of the emmc space free for partitions>

In our normal SD card setup, we try to use the eMMC's typical setup to use this as swap - it's always bad to swap on same disk as you have the OS on. This means that our /etc/fstab has mmcblk1p3 marked as to be swapped on (eMMC partition 3). And well, since we overwrote the eMMC, we don't have that available. We don't want to live-resize partitions / auto setup partitions as it takes too long on boot

To deal with this, you use a partition editor, possibly cfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 inside MeeGo, add the additional partition after partition 3 on eMMC, let's call it p4, mark it as swap - with like 2-3 gb's of swap

After a reboot, then you mkswap /dev/mmcblk0p4 and change the mmcblk1p3 in /etc/fstab to mmcblk0p4 - and you have your swap active.

CE 1.3 might in fact perform better now as it doesn't swap as much.

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No i dont think so it is fixed..although my Emmc installed failed one a many times so i could not test it....still i would recommend installing it on the Sdcard, cause 1.3 has some loss of functionality as stskeeps said. That said, the performance on this one is good...been testing it for a few days now! thank you meego community.

EDIT : wonderfully explained stskeeps! :)

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The CE team has done a GREAT JOB! Keep going! I hope more people getting involved to make N9xx keep going and be a replacement for "deprectaded" Maemo5 in a halfyear or so :-)

Btw... I had seen that some Qml apps seems to run better on Meego CE than Maemo5 that proves that "Meego CE" is the way to go.

However I wouldn't mind if the steering group decided to change name to "MER" or "Maemo CE" to make the rumors stop about a "dead platform" also give the project a some kind of "hypefactor" cause people may think "yay a great new OS" ;)

I mean with all the "mess" behind Meego it has got alot of bad reputation even if the CE team has done a great job :)

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this was my initial reaction (for the reasons you mention), but after reflection, I don't think it's that great an idea for two main reasons

1) while MeeGo has (rightfully, in some ways) gained a bad reputation, no publicity is bad publicity - it's better to be well known and fix your reputation than start off and nobody know about you;

2) I think that the 'press' (and people in general) are getting tired of 'new' platforms all the time, the reception to Tizen has done nothing to change my opinion here. We have a (reasonably) established product that needs polish under a (reasonably) established name, let's keep going with our incremental progress and reap the rewards

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... that's if it turns out possible to keep the name, obviously

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Somebody please post videos of Meego CE 1.3!!!

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Is there ANY possible chance that meego could be available as a progammable os for the N900 completely taking over the Maemo os instead of running from an sd card ?.

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I'll post one tomorrow..my exams going on..actually had to post it today..but my bandwidth very less...ill make a Non HD one tomorrow and post! hopefully if i dont procrastinate.. X-/ !

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@Woot
Agreed to 2nd point ,between it could be more fascinating if we could have just stick to one perfect OS ,no matter if it was meego,maemo or anything else .
i love meego and i hope it is a big release and we see more of such work in future !!

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by installing on the eMMC, yes. this isn't as tested (and thus supported) as it does actually wipe out the possibility to run Maemo, but it is technically possible

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its not stable right? i nevr tried meego. want to try it. so shud i install 1.2? or wait for 1.3 to be stable?

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IF you want recognition big time then please please get it working as an os and make sure you got battery charging and ALL component drivers within the os.

MANY people will want meego to take over Maemo IF it is capable of ALL components within the N900.

Do this and meego will make breath taking ground for sure.

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works fine until battery drain..... So you must make sure battery never goes empty.

Tried on my third "exprimental device". I bought this device very cheep (old user said wifi and camera was broken) and I reflashed Fremantle several times and didnt get wifi up. But for some reason I got it working on Meego 1.3 dont know how :O

:cool:

Now I hope the adoption team make the camera alive too hehe ;)

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you should go for 1.3 on external MMC install is way faster than old 1.2. and it has more cool apps installed from scratch.

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Is it now possible to install Meego to a microSD card without it needing to be the first partition, which makes the card contents invisible to maemo.

I would like to try it, but want to keep the majority of my 32GB card available to maemo, and I don't really wanna swap cards every time.

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camera should work out of the box, afaik...

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i want to install it on my emmc.just wanna try it bcz i nevr felt the heat of meego.i dnt hav any mmc card.can u guide me how to install, the changelog, how to install the apps, where to get the apps, what to avoid and all.plzz help me.i will flash maemo if necessary if meego cannot run alongside with maemo.

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hey can i install this in emmc? coz last time i borrowed mem card frmo my friend to install 1.2 but that was pathetic; is this 1.3 better? worth installing? any new features?
please anyone give the link for installation and download for emmc
thanks

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Camera works fine out of the box in 1.3.

EMMC Install

but again, if you are hell bent on it..then go ahead and post the results also ^.^ !..those would be really welcomed..i also tried to install on my emmc..but my ubuntu 11.10 network manager was screwing up stuff so it failed repeatedly.. :( !

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Great job guys :)

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Just ran it, worked well, until opening kasvopus and it just froze. Could not find a way to swap task or to kill task, so that ended my venture for now.

Helium works well. Performance is great. Status bar would not show signal, always had an x

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Ctrl-backspace on keyboard will open switcher.

We also have gestures to switch on the way so we don't even need X buttons - worth a watch - gets interesting around 00:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl7Djukoysc

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had tried ctrl + backspace, but didnt bring up the switcher for some reason, maybe kasvopus had frozen everything. will try it next time round.

one other thing i found, the virtual keyboard would keep popping up at random times, even with the physical keyboard open. it would block the text input.

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Please file those bugs in bugs.meego.com (meego.com account needed) - find Hardware adaptations - N900 and we'll triage them on

Thank you!

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lol i have windows not linux. so no emmc install for me :(

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you can use a live cd i suppose..

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can u give a step by step guide please

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Great! Where's code for this? :D

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@Trisha :

Download Ubuntu ISO from here :
Ubuntu

then write it to a USB/CD and boot from it.
choose live cd mode.

now you can use ubuntu without installing it.
once in ubuntu download this these :


from :
Meego 1.3 N900 CE

once these downloads are done..
head over to :
EMMC Install

and follow the guide..if everything is done properly..meego will install on your emmc.

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I'm a little confused trying to follow the installer directions. In the past there was a note on one of the n900 pages that indicates there was basically 2 sets of drivers...proprietary closed drives from Nokia and open drivers written by the community (?).

I don't see anything like that now. Have the drivers been built into the testing build and, if so, which drivers are they (closed or open)? If not, where are the driver directions in the install notes?

edit: typo correction

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Ahh ... it's the "BLUE symbol arrow"-backspace. Not ctrl-backspace on my N900.

Now that should make testing easier. There's alot of crashy apps here!

The browser is nice and quick though. Is it possible to zoom?

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just submitted a couple. hope they help!

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Please wait for a stable version...............

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Booting took a few attempts on my N900. Couldn't mount rootfs. I tried rewriting the MMC but that had no effect. Persisted with battery out cold start and finally got it going. Seems to boot reliably now (which is a good thing).

Have just run zypper up so not 100% sure what image I'm using.

Browser is very fast for this HW. Scrolling seems intermittent but nice and smooth when it works. Camera is also very fast. Both of these are significant improvements on Maemo.

Lots of things broken at this stage (so far I've had to restart because of crashes in Fennec, Packages and complete lock in Terminal. Video/Twimgo/Kasvopus not working) but if you want to see what Meego could be (could have been?) it's well worth a look.

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Hey ! nice to hear...can anyone tell if meego1.3 is faster than 1.2 edition coz meego1.2 was very slow and unable to use..thanks

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1.3 is much faster than 1.2 but the current image is not stable so not usable day to day.

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yes but what I mean was ge camera working on a mobile where the camera dont work in fremantle (the hw is probadly broken so it was a joke ;)