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HtheB

2011-10-10 15:24

Internet Messengers on the N9/N950! (Supports: MSN/ ICQ/ Yahoo/ AIM/ IRC/ Facebook/ Gadu-Gadu/ QQ)

Here is a tutorial how to get Internet Messengers on the N9/N950

Credits to billranton and coderus!

If you want to use MSN, there are 2 methods to get this done.
Method 1 (for the most of us, the easy way): MSN-Haze
Method 2: MSN-Pecan

For all the other IM's (ICQ/Yahoo/AIM/IRC/Facebook/Gadu-Gadu/QQ) you need to use Method 1!

Method 1 using MSN with Haze: (credits goes to coderus)

First of all, create a new folder called "msn" in the "MyDocs".

Now lets download the needed files in the msn folder:
libpurple0
telepathy-haze

Once you saved the files, open the Terminal and type in the following commands:

Code:

devel-su

(password: rootme)



cd /home/user/MyDocs/msn

dpkg -i libpurple0*

dpkg -i telepathy-haze*





mc-tool add haze/msn (youremail) string:account=(youremail) string:password=(yourpassword)



mc-tool enable haze/msn/(your account, it's shown 1 line above)

if you want to use some other IM than MSN, just change haze/msn into the desired IM:
haze/icq
haze/yahoo
haze/aim
haze/irc
haze/facebook
haze/gadugadu
haze/qq

Add (another) MSN account
To add a new account:

Code:

mc-tool add haze/msn (youremail) string:account=(youremail) string:password=(yourpassword)



mc-tool enable haze/msn/(your account, it's shown 1 line above)

For other IM's, just change the haze/msn into the desired IM.

Remove a MSN account
If you wan't to remove an account from the list:

Code:

mc-tool list  (to see which accounts are saved)

mc-tool remove haze/msn/(account)

For other IM's, just change the haze/msn into the desired IM.

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Method 2 using MSN with Pecan: (credits goes to billranton)
First of all, create a new folder called "msn" in the "MyDocs".

Now lets download the needed files in the msn folder:
Harmattan Development Repository
Papyon
Telepathy-Pyton
Telepathy-Butterfly

Once you saved the files, open the Terminal and type in the following commands:

Code:

devel-su

(password: rootme)



cd /home/user/MyDocs/msn

dpkg -i harmattan-repository*.deb

apt-get update

apt-get install python-gobject python-openssl python-gst0.10 python-farsight python-crypto python-dbus



dpkg -i python-papyon*.deb

dpkg -i python-telepathy*.deb

dpkg -i telepathy-butterfly*.deb



mc-tool add butterfly/msn (youremail) string:account=(youremail) string:password=(yourpassword)



mc-tool enable butterfly/msn/(your account, it's shown 1 line above)

That's all!

Add (another) account
To add a new account:

Code:

mc-tool add butterfly/msn (youremail) string:account=(youremail) string:password=(yourpassword)



mc-tool enable butterfly/msn/(your account, it's shown 1 line above)

Remove account
If you wan't to remove an account from the list:

Code:

mc-tool list  (to see which accounts are saved)

mc-tool remove butterfly/msn/(account)

Please follow THIS tutorial for a proper integration of telepathy accounts!

kai_en

2011-10-13 06:43

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

I wonder the same as well

HtheB

2011-10-17 20:14

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Bump... :(

MohammadAG

2011-10-17 20:57

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Pidgin isn't possible, needs a major rewrite (Gtk isn't on Harmattan).

MSN needs telepathy-haze/pecan and a plugin UI (no one's working on it afaik).

HtheB

2011-10-17 20:59

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1110151)

Pidgin isn't possible, needs a major rewrite (Gtk isn't on Harmattan).

MSN needs telepathy-haze/pecan and a plugin UI (no one's working on it afaik).

Isn't it possible to add GTK in Harmattan? (Just like we do with Qt on the N900)

MohammadAG

2011-10-17 21:25

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Needs too much work and adaptation, not really worth it for one app.

slai	2011-10-17 21:37

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=28

LaLlamaQueLlama

2011-10-18 02:23

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1106601)

Does the N9 already have Pidgin Internet Messenger?
or is there any way to get MSN to work on the N9?

You could use a jabber account to conect to msn. I don´t remember the thread but someone explain the process when msn changed the protocol and all the plugin´s weren´t working.

EDIT:

Just found it!

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=12

kai_en

2011-10-18 02:57

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

But N9 doesn't support Jabber right? or SIP can be considered as Jabber as well? Sorry if I sounded a bit newbie coz' I really am kinda new on these thigns

kai_en

2011-10-18 05:30

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

It worked, just had to use Terminal mode to input a jabber account

http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from..._account_setup

HtheB

2011-10-18 12:12

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLlamaQueLlama (Post 1110233)

Thanks! That worked!

Although as far as I know, the N950 doesn't have jabber.
How can you do this on the N950?

LaLlamaQueLlama

2011-10-18 13:55

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

For now there isn´t a plugin but from what i can tell you can add it with these instructions

http://doclinux.com/content/how-crea...ber-account-n9

sorry but i don´t have a n9 to test it myself but all these was the simplest solution i could think of

HtheB

2011-10-19 11:00

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLlamaQueLlama (Post 1110420)

That did the job! Thanks :D

MartinK

2011-10-19 11:43

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1110153)

Isn't it possible to add GTK in Harmattan? (Just like we do with Qt on the N900)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1110165)

Needs too much work and adaptation, not really worth it for one app.

A little offtopic, but still - I have succeded in compiling & running (Fremanltes version of) GTK on harmattan. Check out my home:MartinK:gtk COBS project.

And I'm not the only one, looks like aaporantalainen was also successfull.

It can be easilly installed from the repository of those projects, both also contain python-gtk bindings. There might be some theming issues but it runs. :)

I have been also trying to include GTK in the current Harmattan temporary community repository in home:rzr:harmattan, but it fails to compile in it. Any help with this issue is much appreciated! :)

HtheB

2011-10-19 23:11

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinK (Post 1110838)

Awesome!!!!

I should say, start a new topic so more people can see this! :)
And I'm sure someone will help you out of this!

(This is really great! :D)

MartinK

2011-10-19 23:56

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1111112)

Awesome!!!!

I should say, start a new topic so more people can see this! :)
And I'm sure someone will help you out of this!

(This is really great! :D)

OK, good point. :)
Update: done

Makeclick

2011-10-29 23:49

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

So... no one can't make some messenger on N9/N950?? Imo? Meebo? I actually send the message to the Meebo and they will discust it with dev team.. Pidgin would be nice, but not possible..? :(

qwazix

2011-10-30 00:13

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

when I first got my N900 there was no msn plugin. I was using msn a lot back then so I found a service that could do msn via jabber. It involved installing psi on my computer and configuring some things but it was relatively easy, and I suppose it can be used on the N9 until a proper plugin arrives.

HtheB

2011-10-30 00:44

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1115764)

You could use Pidgin on the release date of the N900 for msn.... ;)
But there is still no any IM for Harmattan...

Maybe an easier task is to port qutIM?

qwazix

2011-10-30 00:54

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Yes indeed but I wouldn't miss the conversations integration for anything

HtheB

2011-10-30 01:01

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1115778)

Yes indeed but I wouldn't miss the conversations integration for anything

I rather use Pidgin though, otherwise everybody can read the messages that is being saved on the phone :p
(you can disable history in Pidgin)

And of course, you have more functions like Nudging someone :p

qwazix

2011-10-30 01:13

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

That's what I love about the N900. We can be both happy.

HtheB

2011-10-30 01:15

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

But with harmattan, we both cry (at the moment)

Makeclick

2011-10-30 01:33

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

^^ and me too

Makeclick

2011-10-30 01:54

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

www.meebo.com and add to the apps.. it is not perfect, but somehow it working.

SteveYoungs

2011-10-30 02:17

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1110151)

MSN needs telepathy-haze/pecan and a plugin UI (no one's working on it afaik).

I'd probably use telepathy-butterfly for M$N.

You can easily live without the plugin UI. Once you have telepathy-haze and its dependencies (libpurple mainly) installed you can then add all your IM a/c's (pretty much everything that Pidgin supports) in the terminal with mc-tool. They are then all available through the N9's messaging app.

You just tap the "chat" button at bottom right and it takes you to contacts. Pick up the contact you want to chat with and away you go. This is how I use my Jabber accounts. It works well.

Caveat: I haven't installed telepathy-{haze,butterfly} or libpurple on my N9 yet (I do plan to), but I can't think of any reasons why this wouldn't work.

HtheB

2011-10-30 09:49

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveYoungs (Post 1115790)

Where to get the .deb's (and all the needed depencies) for Harmattan?

Makeclick

2011-10-30 22:12

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

and all devs out there.. do not forget to make it easy to use and install.. people wants that!!

SteveYoungs

2011-11-03 05:55

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1115862)

Where to get the .deb's (and all the needed depencies) for Harmattan?

For Harmattan, specifically... you probably won't find anything. But seeing as though this is just Linux, your nearest Debian mirror should probably have the required armel debs.

Have a look at the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ create a new file in there (I'm not completely sure if filename matters, but all the existing ones in there have a `.list' extension, so keep to that) for your favourite mirror. It would just contain a single line...

Code:

deb http://your_mirror_url/ sid main

I need to point out that I am NOT a Debian user and every time I need to do anything with apt-* or dpkg, I have to google how to do it first. :)

OK, once you have added your mirror to the list you need to update the apt database. Pretty sure that is:

Code:

apt update

At this point you can pretty much install whatever you like via apt-get. However, I've seen funky **** that scares me (I did a "dry-run" on an apt-get run and it suggested that a gazillion packages that were currently installed weren't needed and you should auto-remove em. Erm, no I don't want!!)

The best thing I can suggest to you is to google for apt/dpkg HOWTOs or cheat sheets. With that in hand you'll know more than me. LOL

I've decided to wait until after the big update coming from Nokia that we've heard about before I attempt to install libpurple, telepathy-{haze,butterfly} and friends.

HtheB

2011-11-03 11:38

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveYoungs (Post 1117633)

Code:

deb http://your_mirror_url/ sid main

Code:

apt update

The problem with harmattan is that it gives a lot of depency errors (like hildon stuff)

Telepathy should be ported to Harmattan.
I didn't try out haze or pecan that is made for the N900 on Harmattan, I'll just try it out and see what will happen

Edit:
like I said, depency errors

Makeclick

2011-11-06 23:06

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

so... Where are we now?

billranton

2011-11-07 14:08

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

I saw that loads of the relevant telepathy stuff on fremantle is maintained by Jonny Lamb and Jon Zhang.

Anyone know them? Are they still active?

EDIT: I had a go of this and got surprisingly far. I fetched the fremantle package from http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p....1.2_armel.deb and tried to install it with 'dkpg -i'. It failed with a dependency error, but all of the files had been copied over anyway. The dependencies look like they are for the account setup UI, so I thought I'd try to set up an account with mc-tool

mc-tool add pecan/msn-pecan MSN string:account=user@hotmail.com string:password=password
mc-tool enable pecan/msn_pecan/user_40hotmail_2ecom0

The account came up in the Availability app after that, as bare as the jabber ones are. It tried to connect, but after a minute or so gives up and says "Account in use" underneath. Syslog says:

Nov 7 21:54:51 (2011) telepathy-pecan[6194]: GLIB DEBUG tp-glib - started version 0.3.2 (telepathy-glib version 0.14.5)
Nov 7 21:56:03 (2011) telepathy-pecan[6194]: GLIB DEBUG tp-glib - no connections, and timed out
Nov 7 21:56:03 (2011) telepathy-pecan[6194]: GLIB MESSAGE tp-glib - Exiting

Not bad though eh? It doesn't sound like it needs much fixing to get good enough for mc-tool. Fancy SSO forms can come later.

billranton

2011-11-18 14:46

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

So I got MSN working, using the telepathy method hinted at by abustany in the big contacts thread.

First make sure you have developer mode on and the harmattan dev repository enabled. For the dev repo, create a file called 'dev.list' in /etc/apt/sources.list.d which should contain this line:

Code:

deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free

There are dependencies to install as root (tell me if I missed one):

Code:

apt-get install python-gobject python-openssl python-gst0.10 python-farsight python-crypto python-dbus

You need three packages that aren't currently in the dev repo, though all their dependencies. Because python is architecture independent, the latest packages for each can be taken from debian wheezy:

python-papyon
python-telepathy - The version in the dev repository is too old for butterfly, it requires at least 0.15.17.
telepathy-butterfly

The link you're looking for is 'select mirror'. Download each and install, in the right order:

Code:

dpkg -i python-papyon_0.5.6-1_all.deb

dpkg -i python-telepathy_0.15.19-2.1_all.deb

dpkg -i telepathy-butterfly_0.5.15-2.1_all.deb

After that you can set up the MSN account in a similar way to a standard jabber one:

Code:

mc-tool add butterfly/msn MSN string:account=<email> string:password=<passwd>

It will then list the account uid. This will look something like 'butterfly/msn/myemail_40hotmail_2ecom' which you need to put into

Code:

mc-tool enable <account>

Then it should add your MSN account to the 'Availability' applet, though it will have an empty title. Try 'All Online' and see if it signs in. Your MSN contacts will be added to your address book, though as with the jabber accounts, the msn contacts look empty because there's no service associated with them until someone writes one. This thread helps a bit, but you still need to use mc-tool.

HtheB

2011-11-18 14:49

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Awesome! Going to try out now!

Zoxir

2011-11-18 15:28

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125539)

So I got MSN working, using the telepathy method hinted at by abustany in the big contacts thread.

I got:

papyon - I ended up getting the git trunk, but I think the last release (0.5.6) would work
telepathy-butterfly - The last tarred release had a bug, so I ended up on the trunk here too
telepathy-python - The version in the dev repository is too old for butterfly, it requires at least 0.15.17. I used 19.

There are dependencies to install as root (tell me if I missed one):

Code:

apt-get install make python-gobject python-openssl python-gst0.10 python-farsight python-crypto xsltproc

then download the packages above and install them. You'll find instructions in the README files in each one. After that you can set up the MSN account in a similar way to a standard jabber one:

Code:

mc-tool add butterfly/msn MSN string:account=<email> string:password=<passwd>

It will then list the account name, which you need to put into

Code:

mc-tool enable <account>

Then it should add your MSN account to the 'Availability' applet, though it will have an empty title. Try 'All Online' and see if it signs in. Your MSN contacts will be added to your address book, though as with the jabber accounts, the msn contacts look empty because there's no service associated with them until someone writes one. You can use them through peregrine or the messaging application though.

Can't find make python-farsight and python-gst0.10 help :D

billranton

2011-11-18 15:33

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1125559)

Can't find make python-farsight and python-gst0.10 help :D

Do you have the dev repository on? I added a part for that in the instructions.

Zoxir

2011-11-18 16:45

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125561)

Do you have the dev repository on? I added a part for that in the instructions.

Yeap that did it but I have another question when trying to install telepathy-python I can not run the ./configure command it says permission denied.

billranton

2011-11-18 18:58

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

I don't remember having to do anything special with that. Did you untar it somewhere other than MyDocs? That place does funny things with the permissions. If it is, reextract it again somewhere like /home/user/. If it's still not working, chmod +x it maybe? You should only need to be root for the make install bit.

HtheB

2011-11-18 19:55

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Somehow, I can't even install "make".
Says that it's old or only available from another source...

Edit:
I really thought I enabled the dev repo... Seems like I didn't.

Edit2:

Whenever I try to install xlsproc, it tries to remove the whole device... :confused:

Zoxir

2011-11-18 23:16

Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?

Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125638)

it's really weird that when I untared it on /hume/user/ it worked LOL

But now I have an issue with telepathy-butterfly it complains about not finding dbus.glib

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