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Brainstorm: Porting maemo to other devices instead
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How about Porting maemo to other devices instead...
devices like Nexus Prime & Galaxy Note... it would be really great coz it would allow employing both maemo & these devices to different level.. Attachment 23198 Attachment 23199 Attachment 23206 SOME WORK IS ALREADY DONE Meego on Nexus One http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD VIDEO www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OMdJDjUA4 Nexus S receives MeeGo and Ubuntu ports http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/n...nerd-senses-t/ Install MeeGo on Nexus One, HTC Desire, and Dell Streak http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/...d-dell-streak/ ________________________________________________ P.s - its ok if we cant get all the things working... just maemo with microB & Easy debian & cutetube(if possible) would be enough... every other perk form maemo would be a bonus.. :) |
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no keyboard no sale, and there are a few closed things, your better off trying to port meego which am sure someone has already done to the nexus, although very slowly and then whack on cordia
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i found posts reguarding meego & Ubuntu port on Nexus & Dell Streak UPDATED on first post so its not impossible |
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Its been tried and failed.
I tried to 2 years ago with the Mer Project and a HTC Touch Pro. |
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Actually, I would steer you to Mer. Mer just got rebooted a month or so ago as the future of community-driven MeeGo Core. The Cordia UI is based on Mer. The KDE folks' Plasma Active user interface may run off Mer. I know Mer has had a disappointing history with its past incarnations, but it seems to have a burst of momentum now and the promise of taking the best of what came from MeeGo and running with it in a fully open, community-driven way.
If nothing else, consider talking to Stskeeps about your plans, and he can tell you what pain & suffering lies on a path like this. :) |
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I've had a Maemo chroot running on a Galaxy S2 (any Droid device will work) but I could not get it to be fully functional.
It wouldn't install any applications (HAM) and I have no drivers for the hardware. I tried to set up a VNC server/client but yeah... No video drivers and whatnot. Also... Could be illegal. |
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I seem to remeber Qole making a comment like "if android would run xserver I'd be over it like peanut butter" - or similar. Not sure how his progress compares with yours. Might be easier to take device with drivers installed, see how they'd link into Mer then slap hildon on top. Good luck - we all look forward to hearing how you get on...
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Funny you should mention that, over at another place he's threatening to build a maemo chroot for webos :-)
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That photo of the Note just proves how dumb Nokia was to dump Maemo 5 and focus on a completely new UI. Even though, Harmattan is close to perfection when it comes to simplicity, Nokia screwed up of not pumping out competitive devices running M5. There would not have been any WP7 deal now, or any WP7 device if M5 reached mass market. I guess a MS deal was a long time in the making.
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if we just decide to port maemo to some specific one or two devices it might be achieved.. Even a partial working maemo is much more useful then current OS's... this will let us stay with the community & maemo development for a much longer longer time... |
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video www.youtube.com/watch?v=159h_t0hHPQ now that's an achievement...:) @lma Good find my frend |
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I like the Galaxy Note because of its great stylus support. It's just been released in Australia and should hit Germany in the coming week as well. The source code has also just been released. It ticks most of the boxes that drove me to buy the N800 originally.
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Galaxy note got rooted...
blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-note-rooted-already-you-can-try-this-at-home-video/ www.androidnz.net/2011/11/at-your-own-risk-how-to-root-your.html hope to see a fully working maemo on it... soon.. |
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hmm a M5 port on the droid 3 or 4.. i would be impressed!! fo sho! :D
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This is a bit disheartening and not ideal if you want to port applications rather than system sw and drivers (I want to do both), so I've decided to go for Ubuntu in the meantime so I have something that is at least vaguely usable while I look at the missing drivers, hacking together hw accel, etc. With that said the Ubuntu XServer is segfaulting and I've just broken the install by installing the deps required to build mtev, but once that's sorted the UI should be usable at least (which is a nice morale boost). |
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why would we port it to such expensive brand name devices when there are tons of cheap tablets with comparable hardware like this one for 83$
http://www.pandawill.com/ployer-momo...te-p52651.html wouldnt something like that be a better platform for porting a community OS to it(price/performance wise) |
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I'm device agnostic as long as it's readily available and has the required spec and realistically one would want to support multiple devices (preferably with a non-accelerated UI as a fallback!) |
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I'd rather seem nemo mer on either the droid 3 or the htc desire z, i prefer the droid 3 keyboard though
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i most certainly wont pay 100-200$ for some hardware and then 200-400$ more just for its brand when i'm going to put a community developed OS on it, id rather pay 100$ for a device and then donate 50$ to the developing team and i'm sure a lot of people would rather do like this than pay 400-600$ for a device that is also worth 100-150$ |
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Well Droid 3 is ideal-ish as it's an OMAP 4 (so the Pandaboard stuff should be reasonably close), however as it's a Motorola phone, it's probably not so easy. In addition it's not available in the UK and as GrimyHR says it's expensive for a device that will be unusable for most of the time (i.e. while developing for it)
Desire Z is a Snapdragon, so you'll end up with the issues as listed on the Meego page. The Hummingbird is somewhere between the two, no drivers directly available, but potential to modify and use the OMAP4 userspace stuff. Life would be much better if all the SOC manufacturers released GPU acceleration libraries for both hard- and soft-float.... In any case I'm continuing development on the Hummingbird, noting that one can now buy a 1GHz, 512MB RAM Hummingbird machine (w/ GPS, e-compass, WLAN, BT, etc.) in the form of the Samsung Galaxy S Wifi 5.0/4.0 for ~£130. If you want something that has compatible drivers + userspace for the GPU, then a Tegra 2 device is the way forward, but they are mainly 10" devices, which is not what I'm after. |
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the droid 3's bootloader is locked and cannot be opened for **** well it can but no ones done it
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this is how MAEMO ON MILESTONE-3 will look like.. :)
Attachment 24187 p.s. - i found milestone & droid-3 almost similar in spec's except for the front facing camera i.e. VGA, & also DROID-3 is Verizon Exclusive |
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just luv MOTO FLIPOUT... :) b.t.w. it has the same cpu & gpu of N900 ie CPU 600 MHz Cortex-A8 GPU PowerVR SGX530 |
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That Flipout would be AWESOME with Maemo 5. Definitely something I'd like to have!
Having had a N9 for a short time, I definitely like Maemo 5 better, I just wish it had faster / more hardware, and a less scratch prone screen. slaapliedje |
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that flipout has a locked bootloader(like all moto phones if im not mistaken) and a resolution of just 320x240
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Yeah, unfortunately Motorola likes to lock their boot loaders.
Fortunately, most of them have been hacked. slaapliedje |
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Well all the mock ups are nice but I think what we need to do is create a road map listing all the closed bits of maemo, if doesnt exist already.
Then see what could possibly be borrowed/modified from other open source projects (web os, meego, etc) and what needs to be written from scratch to make this happen. Quote:
Several months ago I dropped it on a rock which made a pretty big gash in the center of the screen. Now though with alot of usage it has gotten to the point where I can no longer see it when the screen is on. I bet with the right type of buffing pad/solution you could polish out most scratches. |
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@Mike Fila
Before doing that, you should look for first class developers that would agree on spending and dedicating their free time working on porting a dead platform, for granted...just sayin'. |
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I think there's no use in porting Maemo to non-hwkbd phone
A good candidate would be HTC Desire or HP Pre 3 |
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@ammyt
Well the the idea of a road map would be to see just how big of a project this is and to asses it's feasibility ;) edit lol I left an s out *assess |
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am tempted to whack open photoshop and make a few of these, but lets get real, it aint happening unless we do it, no developer is going to randomly create an os from scratch
we do however have a nice set of people from the mer project that have put a lot of time and effort into it, also a lot of time and effort has been put onto cordia to make it run on mer, so why doesnt someone get nemo mobile running on a device of there choice, the mer irc channel is a massive help am not even attempting it because A. i wouldnt know were to start. B. am too broke for another device and C. my n900 works perfectly with a 600mhz processor, sure no flash at times but it works to my needing. |
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I have a 7inch Archos tablet and a Blackberry Playbook, and I still wish I could buy a 7inch device with Maemo 5. I don't need/want another phone. I just want a larger screened device for media. And neither of the ones I have are as good as Maemo (though the Playbook OS is pretty amazing for what it does do).
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brb, enjoying Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity 2D on my Transformer. |
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wish to see a "NitMaemo" project in 2012... ~_~
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