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vetsin 2011-10-26 08:05

Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
This got me curious... how do you unlock older NITs?
EDIT:
Forgot to add the link: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_grante...-news-3307.php

debernardis 2011-10-26 09:05

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
slide key, no onscreen thingy.
We are lucky Apple didn't patent the on-off switch, the keyboard, or the human-device interaction.

erendorn 2011-10-26 09:15

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
I don't understand how you can patent digital mecanisms that mimic unpatented real life mecanisms.

zdanee 2011-10-26 09:41

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1113800)
I don't understand how you can patent digital mecanisms that mimic unpatented real life mecanisms.

You can patent human genes and can ask for cash if someone even tries to do research on it. Your sad little genetic-based disease can be someones goldmine even before a cure is found. Talking about trolls...

lma 2011-10-26 09:59

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetsin (Post 1113784)
This got me curious... how do you unlock older NITs?

770 & N800: press power, then centre d-pad button. The N810 adds a physical slide switch on the top.

As for the patent, it seems it only has legs in the US with their known-broken patent system:

Quote:

The Dutch judge who wrote today's decision declared the European counterpart of that patent (EP20080903) obvious (as compared to prior art presented by Samsung) and, therefore, invalid.
(The article even has pictures of said prior art, on WinCE no less)

SD69 2011-10-26 10:38

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetsin (Post 1113784)
This got me curious... how do you unlock older NITs?
EDIT:
Forgot to add the link: http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_grante...-news-3307.php

Don't forget the most important aspect about the NITS - they were first. So we can keep on using the NIT software without worrying about what Apple does with this patent or other subsequent patents.

don_falcone 2011-10-26 10:53

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Recently, there was some "America Invents" act passed that changes the US system from first-to-invent to first-to-file IIRC. Let's wait and see.

EDIT: oh my, Samsung (or the blogger?) even demonstrated prior art using a screenshot of an Terratec EWX control panel which is NOT the mentioned Native Instruments Guitar Rig:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-G_MFyfkRWz...screenshot.png

lma 2011-10-26 11:01

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 1113851)
Don't forget the most important aspect about the NITS - they were first.

Barely (Apple's patent application is from December 2005), but the 770 didn't have slide-to-unlock anyway. IIRC we didn't have any kind of slide/swipe UI elements until Canola.

SD69 2011-10-26 11:09

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 1113876)
Barely (Apple's patent application is from December 2005), but the 770 didn't have slide-to-unlock anyway. IIRC we didn't have any kind of slide/swipe UI elements until Canola.

Barely is all that matters in the patent world. ;) And let's not forget the nokia 7710 which was Hildon-like in some respects and released in 2004.

But most of Apple's relevant touch screen patents were filed after 2005 anyway. The big takeaway is that Maemo 4 doesn't have the patent problems of Android.

vetsin 2011-10-26 13:46

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
it seems that patent system's going towards the wrong direction... are manufacturers supposed to check all filed patents before they make real products with innovative features? apple seems to be claiming too much. (or they're just receiving too much exposure from the press?)

vetsin 2011-10-26 13:48

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 1113811)
You can patent human genes and can ask for cash if someone even tries to do research on it. Your sad little genetic-based disease can be someones goldmine even before a cure is found. Talking about trolls...

is this for real? you can't even extend the research without paying?

skykooler 2011-10-26 14:13

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetsin (Post 1113964)
is this for real? you can't even extend the research without paying?

Unfortunately, yes. Which is how genetic research companies (such as Monsanto) are able to become so incredibly rich: by patenting every single thing they discover or make. Anyone who wants to actually do something with it has to pay them.

Sopwith 2011-10-26 14:16

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
The patent must be invalidated in the US as well, based on the prior art.
See this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS...layer_embedded


The funny thing is, I remember reading about the Neonode before even it was released, and that there was hype building up about it -- and then suddenly it faded away. Seems that the iPhone stole a lot of its thunder, as well as a few seminal ideas...

I applaud Google for pissing all over the broken patent system. If not them, manufacturers in Asia are going to do it anyway. If you have an invention, make a product, sell it and profit -- or go pound sand.

TransTech 2011-10-26 14:22

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
i think the whole patent system s**ks especially slide to unlock, clock designs, GUI interface or bla bla ... jus a big lol for them making this stuff patent...

i think; then everything shown on a fiction film should be patented because they had that idea or vision before anyone else did...

Daneel 2011-10-26 14:57

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Go team USA!

Temporal 2011-10-26 15:07

Re: Apple Patented "Slide to Unlock" - Question for older NIT owners
 
Just another example of how the patent system is broken and how corporations just slow things down.

Yay.


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