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maverick788us 2011-10-27 06:03

Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

1) Bigger Screen: I always love big screen so 3.9 inch is not match for 4.3 inch screen of S2
2) Faster Processor: Having dual core and faster processor is always gives superior perfomance
3) Future Proof: With the future of Meego uncertain we never know, how much will Elop spend in providing support for N9
4) Economical: I think N9 is 100$ more expensive than S2

So what major advantage does N9 holds over Galaxy S2.

ziggadebo 2011-10-27 06:16

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

1) Bigger Screen: I always love big screen so 3.9 inch is not match for 4.3 inch screen of S2
2) Faster Processor: Having dual core and faster processor is always gives superior perfomance
3) Future Proof: With the future of Meego uncertain we never know, how much will Elop spend in providing support for N9
4) Economical: I think N9 is 100$ more expensive than S2

So what major advantage does N9 holds over Galaxy S2.

i can't answer any of the questions above but I will add this:

The N9 looks like a windows phone so it's less likely to be stolen and if you lost it someone would be sure to return it.

sting04 2011-10-27 06:20

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ziggadebo (Post 1114379)
i can't answer any of the questions above but I will add this:

The N9 looks like a windows phone so it's less likely to be stolen and if you lost it someone would be sure to return it.

Nicely put :)

Manatus 2011-10-27 06:29

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

1) Bigger Screen: I always love big screen so 3.9 inch is not match for 4.3 inch screen of S2
2) Faster Processor: Having dual core and faster processor is always gives superior perfomance
3) Future Proof: With the future of Meego uncertain we never know, how much will Elop spend in providing support for N9
4) Economical: I think N9 is 100$ more expensive than S2

So what major advantage does N9 holds over Galaxy S2.

Can't think many. Easier to tinker with. Why do some people choose to use Mac when computers with Windows have more horsepower and have generally more applications and better long term support?

The reason varies and a person who asks a question like the one you did should choose GSII. Mind you, I prefer Windows on my computer. :)

eMiL 2011-10-27 06:34

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
After holding a N9 the SGSII feels like a poorly built fragile toy! Just sayin'!

jo21 2011-10-27 06:45

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
the n9 have better camera, and nice to use UIl.

(unless u install a custom launcher, like spb 3d shell or go launcher EX).

and taskswitching wont get fixed until ICS release

maverick788us 2011-10-27 06:46

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eMiL (Post 1114384)
After holding a N9 the SGSII feels like a poorly build fragile toy! Just sayin'!

I am very much tempted with the new version of N9 which has this beautiful snowhite color and glossy display

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/26/m...t-nokia-world/

But the question is, is it really worth to have it over S2? What difference will there be in terms of perfomance when we compare both the processors?

Frickelson 2011-10-27 08:02

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

as you say the N9 is way too expensive if you look at the specs. i don't understand why - maybe its only because nokia don't want to sell many of them.... but besides that i'd definitely prefer the n9 over the s2 just because its not only another cloned android - it's something different :) and for me thats good because all those androids are kind of boring me (i like to have android as an extra feature on my n900 but not as "standalone-os"). in contrast to that the nice harmattan UI is really well done and totally amazes me. i think it does a great job on daily usage and in addition to that the n9 design doesn't look bad at all :D

can someone explain why the n9 is so damned overpriced?

oh and i totally understand why some people say the s2 feels like a cheap toy - i absolutely agree...

(sorry for my funny english^^)

moofang 2011-10-27 08:36

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
In Malaysia they are about equally priced, but as you say the Galaxy clearly has the better hardware specs. Still, if you want some reasons why folks like me chose the N9, here are some.

OS user-end: Let me be blunt, Samsung's Android UX is a mess. My mother owns an S2 and while she was asking me how she could do this and that and I was fiddling with it I really began appreciating just how well-designed the Harmattan UX and overall architecture is on the N9. Social media, email, Skype/Google Voice are all flawlessly and out-the-box integrated whereas on the S2 I needed to hunt for a facebook app and then hunt for another app to get decent sharing integration in the Gallery app. Stuff like that. You get the feeling that some of these Android manufacturers are sitting on their laurels and having a sort of "there's an app for that" mentality and aren't investing their due effort in making sure their phone software is a nice, all-round, out-the-box-works package. Samsung is a notorious example of such a manufacturer imo. Of course, this is easily worked around if you're comfortable with rooting and flashing your own custom Android ROM, but then Real Multitasking (TM) and the delightful swipe-based UX paradigm are also massive icings on the cake for the N9 if you dig them.

OS geek-end: I'm not a big fan of Java, and I'm not a big fan of having a rigidly defined, platform-specific app-development framework. I want to be able to write and run simple shell scripts and quick-hack up python UIs. And Qt is my favorite development framework on the desktop. If you're like me, well, the N9 is pretty godsend.

Finally, the N9 is physically pretty. Very pretty.

kanishou 2011-10-27 08:43

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114386)
I am very much tempted with the new version of N9 which has this beautiful snowhite color and glossy display

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/26/m...t-nokia-world/

But the question is, is it really worth to have it over S2? What difference will there be in terms of perfomance when we compare both the processors?

Well, think about what you need the processor for. The UI is fluid on the N9, Android is not the most performant operating system, so a faster CPU merely makes it adequate. Videos run just fine on the N9 as well, though perhaps you can think of some corner cases were CPU actually matters.

Where CPU can still make a difference is in very demanding applications or games. This will only rarely make a difference though, because generally apps for Android are built with the lowest common denominator in mind, while all apps for the N9 can take full advantage of its capabilities if they need to, because they are obviously directly targeted towards the device.

kanishou 2011-10-27 08:50

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frickelson (Post 1114403)
can someone explain why the n9 is so damned overpriced?

oh and i totally understand why some people say the s2 feels like a cheap toy - i absolutely agree...

(sorry for my funny english^^)

The same reason Macs are overpriced: The overall build-quality and their uniqueness justifies it. "Run-of-the-mill" products like most Android phones are always going to be cheaper. Also, Android/WP7 royalties do not even begin to compare to the tons of money Nokia put into the development of Harmattan.

Screen size is not a plus for the Galaxy S2 by the way. The challenge in phones is not to make them bigger, but to make them smaller. The N9 probably has the better screen-to-surface ratio, and fits more comfortably into one hand.

If you prefer a bigger device, that's a matter of preference, not quality.

khuong 2011-10-27 08:54

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
the only advantage that n9 offers is real multi tasking, everything else is on the SG2 side, but In the end, it just depends on how you use the phone. I will choose n9 over SG2 just for that real multi tasking.

maverick788us 2011-10-27 09:05

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Agree but if you read this statement

"Nokia N9 is a great phone that simply arrived at the wrong place in the wrong time. If you're looking at a lasting relationship, it needs to be based on unconditional love. OK, good, it’s an easy phone to fall in love with. But you'd better be the monogamous type too."

How long can we think Nokia will provide support for N9? How many meego developer community exist. Since this is the last of Meego device do we expect it to suffer the same feat, which N900 is suffering now?

erendorn 2011-10-27 09:07

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

1) Bigger Screen: I always love big screen so 3.9 inch is not match for 4.3 inch screen of S2
2) Faster Processor: Having dual core and faster processor is always gives superior perfomance
3) Future Proof: With the future of Meego uncertain we never know, how much will Elop spend in providing support for N9
4) Economical: I think N9 is 100$ more expensive than S2

So what major advantage does N9 holds over Galaxy S2.

1) smaller size :) fits better in the pocket (also, more pixels)
2) Please make a list of the highly CPU intensive applications you need to run, so we can advise
3) life proof: review basically says that the N9 has what you need out of the box. That will probably work for the next two years, when you'll change your phone anyway. After 3 years, the GS2 won't be supported either (Android will, but what good is that to you?)
4) aahhh, you're in the US... more expansive, no warranty.. well that's definitely a strong point.

Some more important points:
GS2 has way better media decoding than the N9
GS2 has flash

Storm_11 2011-10-27 09:11

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
I have the N9, and my (ex) gf has the Galaxy S2. My personal opinion is that it depends what you are going to use it for, and what you are looking for.

Things going for the N9:
- damn sexy
- proper multitasking
- (IMO) better looking screen
- build quality

Things going for the GS2:
- apps
- the screen feels easier to use
- swype (soon to change)
- you can access the battery!

The best thing to do, is to do tons of searches for reviews on both phones, then make an informed decision. each person is different.

moofang 2011-10-27 09:16

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114433)
Since this is the last of Meego device do we expect it to suffer the same feat, which N900 is suffering now?

Almost certainly. Still, as the old adage goes, it's better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all. Try as I may, I cannot love the S2 ;)

Edit: Of course, if Nokia keeps its promise, we should get basic support and software updates for 2-years-ish, so that's not too bad. The N900 had this much too. Depends on whether or not you consider that sufficient.

Santhan 2011-10-27 09:18

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Apart from this can we port Our Great Maemo in SGS2 ?????????

Bernard 2011-10-27 09:19

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
Can someone tell me one reason to perfer Nokia N9 over Galaxy S2?

3) Future Proof: With the future of Meego uncertain we never know, how much will Elop spend in providing support for N9

Most smartphone fans use a specific model for less than 2 years, then switch to a new one. I think you can expect support and a decent amount of apps within that time-frame for N9. So how much "future" do you need?

I understand the problem that you can't use any apps bought for the N9 on a future model, but you will always have that problem when switching platforms. Besides, how much money do you spend on apps for a smartphone? Is it really a significant amount compared to the smartphone retail price and mobile phone contract costs? For most people probably not (maybe a few exceptions with iOS users).

The most costly investment you make by switching platform is the time you need to spend learning new interactions and uses. But given the fact that smartphones evolve at a incredibly fast rate, you will probably have to do a lot of learning even when you update to a new model of the same platform. So I think buying a device that is easy to learn is a more sensible choice. And N9 seems to be a very easy user interaction.

maverick788us 2011-10-27 10:26

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1114436)
1) smaller size :) fits better in the pocket (also, more pixels)
2) Please make a list of the highly CPU intensive applications you need to run, so we can advise
3) life proof: review basically says that the N9 has what you need out of the box. That will probably work for the next two years, when you'll change your phone anyway. After 3 years, the GS2 won't be supported either (Android will, but what good is that to you?)
4) aahhh, you're in the US... more expansive, no warranty.. well that's definitely a strong point.

Some more important points:
GS2 has way better media decoding than the N9
GS2 has flash

Screen size does matters a lot. When I type using my wife's SGS2 on screen keyboard, despite having massive 4.3 inch screen I find it hard to type and make numerous mistakes. How much handy will an on screen keyboard with just 3.9 inch screen will be. Can we use it as a complete replacement for notepad and pen for quick noting things?

kanishou 2011-10-27 11:19

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114483)
Screen size does matters a lot. When I type using my wife's SGS2 on screen keyboard, despite having massive 4.3 inch screen I find it hard to type and make numerous mistakes. How much handy will an on screen keyboard with just 3.9 inch screen will be. Can we use it as a complete replacement for notepad and pen for quick noting things?

That always depends to some extend on your finger dexterity (and size) of course, but reviewers so far only had good things to say about the N9 virtual keyboard:

http://wiki.maliit.org/Reviews

Just for reference, I type on the portrait keyboard (with two thumbs) faster than I can type on the N900 hardware keyboard. Mistakes can happen, but are rare for me when I pay attention. The landscape keyboard is easier, but I find it also slower (due to longer thumb travel distances).

You can look for youtube videos of people typing fast on the iPhone keyboard to get an idea of what speeds can also be reached on the N9 with some practice.

For messaging and note taking it's more than sufficient as far as I am concerned.

eaglehelang 2011-10-27 15:33

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1114374)
4) Economical: I think N9 is 100$ more expensive than S2

So what major advantage does N9 holds over Galaxy S2.

1) In my country, the 16GB N9 is $100 cheaper than S2. The 64GB cost $200 more than S2 but overall cheaper than buying 32GB memory card

2) 3.9" is just nice for my small Asian hands, can hold & type one handed. 4.3" is too big, cant fit into pockets. I reckon you're a westerner, so, different size fits different people.

3) Durability. When I hold a Samsung, it feels fragile(I dont want to use the other term) & is fragile from my experience with Samsung Wave & other Samsung products.
So, as far as I'm concerned, N9 will last longer than S2. The OS dead, so? I can still use the device, if the device dead, then it's a problem :p

maverick788us 2011-10-29 06:17

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
So lets say I wanna buy a new handset within 6 months so should I go for N9 or should I wait for N8-01 which indeed sounds tempting with very good specs?

vivmak 2011-10-29 07:08

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
I am in same situation, more concerned about updates,bug fixes etc. N900 has solid community backing with updates comming out as CSSU updates worry about meego support from Nokia.

but I have found following useful video while making up my mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvQXW...eature=related

BTW does n9 have swype and?

qwazix 2011-10-29 07:40

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
If you like big screens you should check out the Samsung Galaxy Note. Really.

maverick788us 2011-10-29 09:16

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1115450)
If you like big screens you should check out the Samsung Galaxy Note. Really.

Yes I just saw the video:p
But than again it has the same build quality as GS2 which is cheap plastic according to you guys

maverick788us 2011-10-29 09:22

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kanishou (Post 1114507)
That always depends to some extend on your finger dexterity (and size) of course, but reviewers so far only had good things to say about the N9 virtual keyboard:

http://wiki.maliit.org/Reviews

Just for reference, I type on the portrait keyboard (with two thumbs) faster than I can type on the N900 hardware keyboard. Mistakes can happen, but are rare for me when I pay attention. The landscape keyboard is easier, but I find it also slower (due to longer thumb travel distances).

You can look for youtube videos of people typing fast on the iPhone keyboard to get an idea of what speeds can also be reached on the N9 with some practice.

For messaging and note taking it's more than sufficient as far as I am concerned.

so overall onscreen keyboard is as good and durable as the physical keyboard for quick typing and other KB related operations?

HELLASISGREECE 2011-10-29 09:38

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
N9 is good looking, has quality materials, better screen, better OS, will get better support, has no hardware keys and REAL live multitasking.

the phone has character

sgs2 is an ugly,pastic brick

erendorn 2011-10-29 09:59

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1115476)
so overall onscreen keyboard is as good and durable as the physical keyboard for quick typing and other KB related operations?

The virtual keyboard is as fast as a physical keyboard, and more flexible.
But it does take space on the screen...
No easy answer ;) but so far users seem really happy.

maverick788us 2011-11-10 09:43

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kanishou (Post 1114421)
Well, think about what you need the processor for. The UI is fluid on the N9, Android is not the most performant operating system, so a faster CPU merely makes it adequate. Videos run just fine on the N9 as well, though perhaps you can think of some corner cases were CPU actually matters.

Where CPU can still make a difference is in very demanding applications or games. This will only rarely make a difference though, because generally apps for Android are built with the lowest common denominator in mind, while all apps for the N9 can take full advantage of its capabilities if they need to, because they are obviously directly targeted towards the device.

High Defination Video Recording (1080P or 1440P) and high end games . Don't know if this single core is capable of doing that.

slai 2011-11-10 09:52

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Ive got both phones.

I prefer the N9 in daily use, by far. Screen is more readable in direct light, appswitching is MUUUUCH better, etc. Its not so much about what SGS2 can or cant do compared to N9, but the small microthings that just makes the phone better and smoother for normal use.

IMO.

JethroSang 2011-11-13 14:17

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Would be very awesome if someone managed to port android 4.0 ics to N9. That's like, icing on the cake?

bobh 2011-11-13 14:56

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JethroSang (Post 1122886)
Would be very awesome if someone managed to port android 4.0 ics to N9. That's like, icing on the cake?

But why? It isn't as if there is a shortage of Android phones to choose from.

In addition, Android probably wouldn't run nearly as well on the N9 as the native OS does. You will lose the cool swipe UI and the nice way it handles multitasking. Basically most of the things that distinguish the N9 would go away except its looks.

So in the end all you will have is a nice-looking but somewhat under-powered Android phone. Seems like a lot of trouble for little reward.

bobh 2011-11-13 15:08

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1115472)
Yes I just saw the video:p
But than again it has the same build quality as GS2 which is cheap plastic according to you guys

I think there may be some bias in this forum on that score :)

slai 2011-11-13 15:23

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
if i wanted android id keep my sgs2. meego harmattan is better for me.

maverick788us 2011-11-14 08:21

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1114385)
the n9 have better camera, and nice to use UIl.

(unless u install a custom launcher, like spb 3d shell or go launcher EX).

and taskswitching wont get fixed until ICS release

If N9 has a better camera. But it lacks HD recording at 1080P and despiting having Carl Zeisis Optics in this 8MP Mega Shoutout. Galaxy S2 turned out to be runner. So what all good features does N9 camera offers over Galaxy 2 camera?

slai 2011-11-14 08:25

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Its ran by meego harmattan instead of android.

:P

maverick788us 2011-11-14 08:35

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
I know Meego is a superior OS compared to Android. But when we compare camera its pure hardware base.

slai 2011-11-14 08:39

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
I know, its said in jest.

As for camera, doesnt the SW dictate a lot? I mean, consider the N900 stock camera app to what it came to be, iirc it was quite a difference?

eaglehelang 2011-11-14 09:15

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick788us (Post 1115472)
Yes I just saw the video:p
But than again it has the same build quality as GS2 which is cheap plastic according to you guys

Lol, it IS cheap plastic if my experience with Samsung wave is anything to go by. S2 feels flimsy, which means wouldnt last long.
Any phone device that dont feel solid when I hold it will bye2 rather fast in my hands. :p:p

slai 2011-11-14 09:16

Re: Nokia N9 vs Galaxy S2
 
S2 felt solid as **** when I had mine. Thats me tho.


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