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Pulzar 2011-10-28 20:54
Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
http://everythingn9.com/firefox-10-nokia-n9/

A nightly build of Firefox 10 has been released for public and I must say it is just perfect. Very much faster than the unofficial 9 build found at my-meego.com.

I installed it on top of the unofficial 9 build and it upgraded perfectly. This post was made with the firefox 10 beta.

jaeezzy 2011-10-30 14:35
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Is there a video you can share with us - esp N9 fanatics without N9 yet.. Thank you.

ezameht 2011-10-30 14:54
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I agree. Runns really well. A little speed improvement would still be good.

olympus 2011-10-30 16:09
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
and a little flash support would be good too :P

shmerl 2011-11-01 06:45
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Firefox continues to improve hardware acceleration support, so that shows in the newer nightly. But now it faces a way more serious problem than just speed:


http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...6bd0f8f044a33d
http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...eb8648c03e9d10

ste-phan 2011-11-01 09:15
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Performance is nothing special,

The rendering with of some text sections is not optimized to coop with the limitations of the N9's screen.

But I am glad to find the adblock plus addon to be supported in this version.
As well as the master password option.

Maemomd 2011-11-01 14:29
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1116696)
Firefox continues to improve hardware acceleration support, so that shows in the newer nightly. But now it faces a way more serious problem than just speed:


http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...6bd0f8f044a33d
http://groups.google.com/group/mozil...eb8648c03e9d10
There goes Firefox for N9.

don_falcone 2011-11-01 14:37
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
> Do you consider at some point supporting a full blown Qt port

Full Qt is just as bad for Mozilla as full native Android UI is. We are
dedicated to the Open Web and using "webby" technology to build our UI
is the anchor point of the success of our Add-ons system. Without it,
that's gone. If it's giving in to a system that was built to make
everything non-Dalvik to suck and recognize that Google has won on
Android or if it's throwing everything away for Qt does not matter. Both
are equally not reflecting what Mozilla stands for - innovation and the
Open Web.

The native Android UI is only done because that system sucks so much for
doing things without a "native" UI that it looks like we can't avoid it
for low-perf devices that have a really big share of the market. I'm
pretty sure we only would think about doing the same with Qt if Qt-based
devices would rule the market equally as Android and iOS do on the
smartphone market right now and at the same time those Qt-based devices
would equally suck on running the "webby" UI that actually reflects what
Mozilla stands for.

Robert Kaiser
...aah, umm, yeah, so why still no Fennec for webOS then? That whole shiznit is built on a "webby" foundation you ID10T.

erendorn 2011-11-01 15:04
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1116885)
...aah, umm, yeah, so why still no Fennec for webOS then? That whole shiznit is built on a "webby" foundation you ID10T.
I don't get what is the relation (or non relation) between Qt and the Open Web...
What he says boils down to:
"Firefox relies on Add-ons, which relies on XUL (not a standard by the way), which would be a hell of difficult to fully reimplement in Qt, and would still be an interpreted UI anyway, because it's by design."

The terms "stands for", "dedicated", "Open Web", "innovation", "Android s*cks" are just there for the show IMHO.

shmerl 2011-11-01 15:23
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
XUL is not less standard than QML, MXML or anything of the same sort. It was designed for the same purpose - creating UIs. But it didn't really develop into generally used tool outside Mozilla.

I'm not really sure about what's less webby in QML in comparison to XUL, but the point is, XUL UI already exists now in Firefox in a portable form. Anything outside that will be limiting (unless for example you reimplement the whole thing in QML and rely on Qt portability instead).

afaq 2011-11-03 11:32
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I am quite impressed with the performance of firefox on the N9. This version is a big improvement.

Also I noticed Firefox allows you to browse your devices file structure through a windows like dialog box (which the native browser does not support). I struggled to upload a photo but the functionality is there.

ste-phan 2011-11-03 11:55
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
In fact reading all this "Fennec will support this os and that framework"...

I would not mind having a device booting straight into Firefox.
Firefox add ons section being the app store.
What would be the price of Java overhead on today's dual core / 1GB devices?

reinob 2011-11-03 15:37
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
@ste-phan,

What does Firefox have to do with Java?

shmerl 2011-11-03 15:57
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1117744)
I would not mind having a device booting straight into Firefox.
Then you might be interested in following B2G (Boot to Gecko) progress: https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G

sunc 2011-11-05 02:37
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1117744)
I would not mind having a device booting straight into Firefox.
Firefox add ons section being the app store.
What would be the price of Java overhead on today's dual core / 1GB devices?
I would mind. It's one the reasons why we do have dual core/1GB devices. As a browser it's ok, I can restart it when it has eaten up all my RAM and 2GB swap, but I don't want to have that leaky resource hog as my OS, I already have one.

My boss likes to talk about the Moore's law. Lately he's started to add "The Great Moore’s Law Compensator" to that arsenal.

teddy 2011-11-05 05:46
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I was wondering if there was anyway to load the full version of gmail with fennec and likely regular firefox plug-ins with it. The basic html version doesn't allow for landline calls (hence it might require the plug-in) and google voice doesn't seem to be an option here in Canada.

shmerl 2011-11-05 23:33
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Making landline calls requires using Google Talk plugin, which Google released for x86/x86_64 architecture. I don't think ARM versions of this plugin are available. So far calls aren't going through JavaScript VM, so without a plugin - it won't work. In some future, JavaScript VoIP will mature, and Google is planning to use it: http://code.google.com/p/webrtc/
Not quite yet though.

cddiede 2011-11-12 01:53
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Anyone else having an inability to load the libxpcom.so library when trying to launch Firefox on the n9?

shmerl 2011-11-12 23:35
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
What are your errors exactly? Please report issues in the main thread:
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3647

Hariainm 2011-11-23 00:36
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Firefox 11.0~a1 [fennec-22-11-2011_15-mozilla-central]

jaeezzy 2011-11-23 02:12
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I did a quick browser comparision using browsermark.rightware.com between stock & fennec 10 and fennec turned out to be better on that one even though the scrolling lags a bit than the stock with ~37000 compared to ~25000 in stock. So I was kinda wondering if only scrolling was smoother & snappier feel and of cousrse had a flash... :)

Edit: Just tried with fennec 11 and just got 25047 :(

jalyst 2011-11-24 05:22
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Flash? Stock browser doesn't support flash...
It allows one to play FLV's via a local player, but the stock browser doesn't support flash.

There's still a remote possibility that 11x will eventually arrive to the stock browser.
Check-out the thread in this sub-forum, or the N9/N950 sub-forum, CBF'd digging it up.

Schturman 2011-11-30 16:33
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1127616)
Hi
A little question, this version have Copy/Paste and option for downloading files like ZIP/RAR ? The stock browser don't have :(
Thanks

Hariainm 2011-11-30 20:51
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schturman (Post 1131181)
Hi
A little question, this version have Copy/Paste and option for downloading files like ZIP/RAR ? The stock browser don't have :(
Thanks
Yes, and yes.

Maemomd 2011-11-30 22:34
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1128220)
Flash? Stock browser doesn't support flash...
It allows one to play FLV's via a local player, but the stock browser doesn't support flash.

There's still a remote possibility that 11x will eventually arrive to the stock browser.
Check-out the thread in this sub-forum, or the N9/N950 sub-forum, CBF'd digging it up.
Not sure if this will happen, now that Adobe is stopping new mobile dev, focussing on other project and support for existing.

jalyst 2011-12-02 15:35
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maemomd (Post 1131322)
Not sure if this will happen, now that Adobe is stopping new mobile dev, focussing on other project and support for existing.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...01#post1112901
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...38#post1122938

It's been a while since I last spoke to him, will check with him again soon.
It don't want to hassle him too regularly.....

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 11:20
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
http://topdownloads.ru/other/file/fe...el/6954287.htm

fennec 12.0.a1

AndyNokia232 2012-02-23 11:25
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HELLASISGREECE (Post 1168685)
Is this for real? If so, how come it's on some scary Russian website?

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 11:34
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
yeah, this is for real. I just installed it.

it's a beta of course. till now it's working great,

**Why are Russian sites scary?
just download the .deb file... duh

simonizer 2012-02-23 11:52
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Well, if you're looking for the latest Firefox Mobile versions for Harmattan, you may visit romaxa's site from time to time.

http://romaxa.info/fennec/

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 12:07
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by simonizer (Post 1168693)
Well, if you're looking for the latest Firefox Mobile versions for Harmattan, you may visit romaxa's site from time to time.

http://romaxa.info/fennec/
i can't see fennec 12 though
correct me if I'm wrong

jleholeho 2012-02-23 12:17
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
http://romaxa.info/fennec/mozilla-aurora/

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 12:24
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
12.a2!!

even newer!

thanks a bunch!!

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 12:28
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
ok, between ---> 11.0 a1, 11.0.a2 , 12.0 a1 and 12.0.a2

which onw is the best?!

jleholeho 2012-02-23 12:29
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
I´m not really sure which version fits best, I guess you should try yourself...
I´ve been using Aurora 12 on my laptop for some time now, too, and it´s awesome...

olympus 2012-02-23 12:57
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
tried to install aurora 12 a2 but no success

simonizer 2012-02-23 12:57
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Well, you can use the aurora/nightly builds, of course. But sometimes they may also be broken/not usable.
I prefer the latest final/release version ( http://romaxa.info/fennec/mozilla-release/ ), which always runs stable.

shmerl 2012-02-23 17:39
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Use the release build, unless you want to experiment, to test Firefox itself, or you need some new features which exist only in development builds. Note that development builds can be unstable and even broken at times.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-02-23 18:04
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by simonizer (Post 1168731)
Well, you can use the aurora/nightly builds, of course. But sometimes they may also be broken/not usable.
I prefer the latest final/release version ( http://romaxa.info/fennec/mozilla-release/ ), which always runs stable.
so the latest stable release is the 10.0.2

thanks for the info

shmerl 2012-02-23 18:05
Re: Firefox (fennec) 10 beta for Harmattan
 
Yes. You can see versions of current and scheduled releases here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/

Mozilla calls development and release Firefox branches "channels":
Release, Beta, Aurora, Nighlty: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/channel/


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