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Which OS is best suited for N770?
Which OS is best suited for N770?
What is the latest version of ITOS 2006 and ITOS 2007? I am a newbie.. just bought N770 and 2GB Mobile MMC.. Could someone please suggest me the best way to go? My current OS versions is ITOS 1.2006.26-8 I have also downloaded the latest ITOS 2007 HE (SU-18_2007HACKER_2.2006.47-17_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin) from Nokia site. I really got confused, whether to flash with OS 2006 edition v. 3.2006.49-2 or the Hacker edition? Which one is latest?? Some people are talking about http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ kernel patches. Do I need to install these patches on 2006 version OS or 2007 OS? Please help me................ |
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1.2006.26-8 was/is the first version of OS 2006, and is pretty old (August 2006 I think). You definately want to upgrade this - it doesn't even support 2GB MMC.
If you want good stability and the device working as more-or-less promised, upgrade to OS 2006 3.2006.49-2 (this is the final version of OS 2006). This version does support 2GB MMC. If you want to test the bleeding edge and don't care if stuff doesn't work a bit or not at all, upgrade to the Beta of OS 2007HE which is currently 2.2006.47-17 - this is pretty much a proof of concept rather than a finished article. There are various patches on fanoush's site, but if you are referring to the high speed MMC patches, install these on OS 2006. They may possibly work on OS 2007HE as well, as I believe OS 2007HE is using the same kernel as OS 2006 (although I could be wrong, in which case you could end up with a non-booting device - just replace the original OS 2007HE kernel from the FIASCO image in that case, or reflash to recover). A newer version of OS 2007 HE is due in the coming weeks. |
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I can confirm that fanoush's high-speed MMC kernel zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52Mhz-multiblockw.zip works fine with the current HE 2.2006.47-17, but it depends very much on the MMC brand/model. I have 2GB Kingston with MMC4 support. Follow the instructions on the fanoush's site and test the kernel before flashing at least one day. Or wait for the new HE :-)
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Hi Milhouse,
Thank you so much. I feel that better way to go with dual boot with latest ITOS 2006 and ITOS 2007 hack... and find out the best suited platform for my activities. Thanks namorvx... I really wanted to have this patch installed ... I will try it out soon. How do i know that whether my MMC will support MMC4 or not? Anyways.. which MMC specification is the latest supported for N770 to get the best performance? Your suggestions are more appreciated..... |
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The tiny problem is that even if a card claims MMC4.1 support, it needn't run properly on the high-speed MMC kernel. You have to test it with your card(s). But I can tell you that high-speed mode with multiblock writes is significantly faster then the standard 12MHz one. Give the modified kernel a try. Good luck!
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This site is incredible! You guys have answered my question before I even posed / posted it!
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MMC4.2 is newest and adds >=4GB support just like SDHC but I think you can't buy such cards yet. These won't work with current kernels but patch is trivial so once they are on market support can be added. As for performace - unless you want to flash kernel which support high speed MMC modes it doesn't matter which card you have in N770. If you decide to use such kernel than is matters if the card supports only 26Mhz mode (all mmcmobile/mmcplus cards must support this) or can run at 52Mhz too (this mode is optional). You can find this only by testing. There are mmcmobile cards that support only 26Mhz mode (i.e. only half of maximum speed possible in N770). Also it depends if the card is stable with N770 or not. For me the Kingston 2GB works fine and can do the fastest mode. I am not sure about other cards. Definitely there is some reason why Nokia restricts MMC clock to 12Mhz in their N770 kernel so YMMV. |
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Use linux live CD or vmware player to run nokia linux flasher. |
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Hi Fanoush,
Thanks a lot. |
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Thanks and appreciate all your help. |
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Fanoush, I tried LIVE CD on Dell inspiron 6000 and it said "Sending kernal image .....". Look like, it sent the the image.
Now when send was complete. I pushed the power button on n770 (with charger connected and also usb cable to laptop connected). The n770 booted fully. Then I removed the usb cable. Is the kernel loaded ? How can I find whether the new kernel is running or the old one ? BTW I am also able to access the original 64 MB MMC card which came with n770. That makes me wonder if I am running the new kernel. As the new kernel was supposed to be giving problem to MMC card which came with 770. Thanks and appreciate all your help. |
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cat /proc/version Also you can test read speed (as root) Code:
Nokia-N770-48:~# time dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=4096 count=40000 As for the 64MB card, yes some people reported it working, my device is early one from 2005 maybe later they shipped better cards. |
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Thanks Fanoush.
Here is some info. The tablet I have is Product SU-18 hw-build 1802 nolo 0.9.14 The OS ver is 49-2. I put the kernel which is prepared by you (zImage-yuv420). The command 'cat /proc/version' gives Code:
Linux version 2.6.16.27-omap1 (maemo@unbuntu-maemo) (gcc version 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery) ARM 2005sq3-2)) #34 PREMPT Tue May 22 13:15:14 CEST 2007 Code:
time dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=4096 count=40000 Edited Post (after few minutes of original post) I rebooted, and then it said bifh1@doree instead of maemo@unbuntu-maemo. Also 'dd' took 44.4 sec (for 64 MB) instead of 23.12 sec. Wow your kernel gives twice the speed !!! Now one more question, if I flash your kernel permanently with your flasher utility and in future if I want to go back to original kernel, then will I be able to flash just the kernel or will I have to re-image the whole os ? Where can I find the original kernel ? (I am sure I am being paranoid and I will not need it). You have done wonderfull job. It is excellent. Thanks and looking forward for your reply. |
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The speed is 15680*4=62MB / 23s = 2.7MB/s (i.e half of speed of my test run above) This looks like mmcmobile card capable of 26Mhz mode. In general this speed test may be less accurate on first run since some part may be already cached in RAM from previous random reading so the speed might be inflated. To be sure you can run it more times and take 2nd or third result. The data size must be greater that available free RAM. 62MB is probably OK for N770, 32 not, for N800 at least 128 MB should be read, preferably more. |
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Thanks Fanoush for qucik reply.
Just one more question, if I flash your kernel permanently with your flasher utility and in future if I want to go back to original kernel, then will I be able to flash just the kernel or will I have to re-image the whole os ? Where can I find the original kernel ? (I am sure I am being paranoid and I will not need it). Thanks for wonderfull job with kernel. |
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Fanoush,
My 2GB card arived today. I wanted to make the system dual bood. I followed the instruction as given here (http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowT..._From_MMC_card) with the exception I used following for partition. Code:
# sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 When I boot from mmc partition 2 ext 3, the lower blue bar goes upto 3/4 length and then I get the screen with applets for a fraction of second and then it reboots. Any idea why it cood be happening ? I searched the forum but couldn't find any solution. Thanks for all your help. I have been bugging more than I should. I rebooted from flash and mounted mmcblk0p2 ro mmc2. The df shows 294MB there with 145 MB used and 134 free. /mtdblock4 (internal fash) has 126 MB of which 83MB is used and 43 MB free. Shoud I delete everything and do tar again ? If yes then can you please help me with commands ? Thanks |
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The tar in /temp-tar/ is GNU tar. The kernel is yours (zImage-yuv420.zip). I flashed your kernel using your flasher util. 'cat /proc/version' shows 'unbuntu@maemo....'. I will do all of the above and post result here. Just one question before I do that. Should the /dev/mmcblk0p2 be mounted to /media/mmc2 before the last reboot (for boot from patition 2) or not ? Thanks |
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While doing /tar-temp/bin/tar ...., xterm died. dmesg has an error
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Out of memory: kill process 1195 (osso-xterm) score 4586 and and children. Or is there any solution to out of memory ? EDIT: Now my n770 is continuously rebooting. It asks fro for from where to boot, I select flash then it shows white screen and then reboots and ask for where to boot from and is in continuous loop. Looks like I screwed something. I will reflash it with original 49.2 image and start again :-( |
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Fanoush,
I flashed with original 49.2 image and it started boot fine. I re did everything (applications etc). I am currently cloning the system using /tar-temp/. I did skip initfs though. Can I do the initfs Code:
# tar zxvf initfs_flasher.tgz Thanks. |
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Fanoush,
My tar died again. Here is dump of dmesg Code:
ering down Q2. Can I do Initfs_flasher after doing tar ? (I want to make sure that I am able to clone the system before I make tablet as dula boot) ? Note: I am running your kernel zImage-yuv420. Thanks and appreciate all your help. |
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As for the corrupted flash and reboot loop you mentioned - did you unmount both /floppy and /opt before reboot? Anything you mounted by hand should be unmounted before reboot. |
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Thanks fanoush,
First thing first. I enabled virtual memory to 64 MB and tar went fine. I booted from block 2 ext 2 and it boot just fine. Success at last. Thanks to your patiently answering my questions. Quote:
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Q3. I didn't even give following command '# chroot /mnt/initfs cal-tool --set-root-device ask:mmc2' and still I am able to dual boot. Do I need to give command ? Or can I just forget it ? Thanks. |
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Thank Fanoush for all your answers.
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I forgot to run the initfs update before cloning the whole system, now i cannot boot into the mmc card. anything can be done to help? I'M thinking to reclone the /mnt/initfs directory only. any suggestions?Thanks.
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