[Announce] CSSU stable release
 

I know the stable cssu has been mentioned on the forums about 3 weeks ago, and I'm happy to announce that it's finally here!

So what is the "stable" cssu?
The stable cssu is meant for all those people who didn't want to install the cssu because it happened to break stuff from time to time.
We're trying to achieve an as close to stock maemo experience as possible in terms of stability.

What is in the stable cssu?
The stable cssu contains those packages from testing version 16.8 which were deemed stable. Basically nearly everything but modest/tinymail and the camera-ui replacement.
The exact packages + minor changes to those packages can be found on the changelog page for the stable cssu http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable

What features does the stable cssu support?
Since there are most packages from 16.8 it supports most features 16.8 has, nevertheless there is a dedicated page with all supported features listed: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable

Installing?
If you've got cssu-testing installed you most probably don't want stable anyway, if you still want to, a reflash is needed prior to installing cssu-stable.
Any other candidates follow the instructions on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation

Where did the orientation-lock applet go?
Since several people complained about the orientation-lock taking up space whilst not beeing needed, it can now be installed as a seperate component.

What happened to my transistions.ini?
Since the cssu introduces several new options to the transistions.ini the installer overwrites the existing one, but a backup is kept in /usr/share/hildon-desktop/transistions.ini.precssu

How does the future of the stable cssu look like?
The plan is to incorporate updated packages from testing whenever they seem to have reached a stable status.
Since the dev team can't possible test all cases we rely on the community to give feedback on the releases in testing.
Every friday @ UTC 17:00 I will try to be around #maemo-ssu on irc.freenode.net to go over the current packages in testing with everyone who is around to voice his opinion.

Where is the source of the stable cssu?
Just like for the testing cssu the source can be found at http://gitorious.org/community-ssu every component that is in stable has a branch stable which is up to date with the current version in the repo.

We hope that everyone will be pleased with this new branch of the cssu.

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A huge Thank You merlin1991 for bringing this Stable release to us finally!

Now all N900-users may - and are encouraged to actually do - switch to CSSU from maemo stock

I'd like to rephrase that in a more generic way:

CSSU-Stable is a supplementary repository for all users, meant to bring bugfixes to you that Nokia doesn't want to or can't provide. It also brings improvements of core components that can't get published like normal "apps". It keeps maximum compatibility to stock maemo5-fremantle user experience and app API, so it's strongly recommended that every user will "switch to" CSSU-Stable now (except of those who are already on CSSU-Testing ;-D )

/jOERG

PS: CSSU team still in urgent need for additional manpower, esp searching vice-maintainers for both Stable and Testing branch. Contact us on IRC freenode.net #maemo-ssu

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great work merlin. isnt it possible for an end-user who doesnt want to continue with the cssu testing to be able to switch to the stable version without flashing his n900 device in the future releases.

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Alas not, the whole installation of CSSU is meant to start from a clean maemo stock, there are no methods to uninstall or switch branches (e.g. camera-ui would need uninstall when switching from T to S) - so it can not work without clean reflash to stock and installing from there. However, I hardly can see a lot of users wanting to move from T to S (and actually it *might* be possible to migrate from S to T as T is supposed to be "just newer" than S)

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Awesome stuff! Great to see a CSSU Stable at last! At least no-one can accuse the (most excellent) people involved of rushing it! :-D

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[testing version]

... Thank you to you and the rest of the CSSU team. Might it be an idea to put the installer on OVI for those who don't frequent these fora? So they can make the most of their devices and perhaps a few will involve themselves in the community in due course. Just an idea.

So if one uninstalls the CSSU_T, it won't reset the OS to a state where the CSSU_S could be installed? Why - don't all the components get removed?

Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 

AFAIK, the Ovi Store doesn't allow packages that change system components, which is the whole point of the CSSU.

As for uninstalling all components in the CSSU, that would leave your system in an unbootable state.

Theoretically, you can "uninstall" the CSSU by downgrading all packages to the stock versions and reintalling the stock meta package, however, there's no complete list of all package versions.

Anyway, good job merlin1991! :)

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Thanks a lot to Mohammed AG & Merlin.. for this wonderful Occasion..

As there is S and T i was really confused and i was on T and lazy to reflash :d..

And i decided to stay on T after reading these ;)

So tht T can be superior than S... even though it is in testing stage :p

Anyways Thanks to all who sweated for this Great Project....

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@SD69 / council:
thanks for support of CSSU, and for offering that banner ad.

http://wiki.maemo.org/images/0/0d/Cssu-108.png Get Community SSU now, keep Maemo alive -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU

Picture above http://wiki.maemo.org/Image:Cssu-108.png courtesy wazd

is sth I could come up with in a minute, but I'm not that brilliant on this kinda stuff. So take that as a first suggestion maybe. Any better contributions welcome :-D

/j

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Thanks, i'm very sick right now and this cheer me up.

Noob questions:

How many batery do i have to got to install it? Can be installed with the charger plug?

In the Community SSU/ChangelogStable the NONE, is beacause have the same as T 16.8 or mean that doesn't have it?

(i supose) is recomended to install CSSU Features Configuration after CSSU S?

If yes, with CSSU Features Configuration you can configure the Community SSU/FeaturesStable, or you have to do it HAM or with apt-get or tweaking?.

Thanks.

Greetings.

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You can install with charger plugged in, no problem. don't worry about batteries (though on such critical invasive actions you better have a charged battery, just in case you need to reflash when sth goes wrong - no, I haven't heard of that happening on installing CSSU yet :-D )

It means there's no change to testing 16.8 version

Yes, it's a configuration tool for some of CSSU specific settings. No warranty if it works with current Stable or Testing though. We should get it into CSSU repo, as it's another app that is specific to CSSU (like orientation-lock applet), and then keep track of it. For now that hasn't happened yet.

Yes, see above. If it works then you shouldn't need other means - apt-get and HAM are not the right tools for this anyway. Rather maybe vi for editing files and gconftool for gconf keys

/j

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Is it the flavor in About CSSU that tells me if i´m on testing or stable?
It sais testing on mine but i´m pretty sure that i chose stable from the installation page.

Thanks

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Newbie question.

I asked a lot about the differences between stable and testing, and also I know that the testing version have few packages that the stable version don't.
But, in a "battle" testing VS stable, what version is better about features?

Thanks a lot =)

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of course the testing one...

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Can I install Stable/Testing on a N900 which is using Titan Kernel v49? I personally have a lot of applications installed but barely modifications, for example changes in the transitions.ini (I guess they will be overwritten by the CSSU).

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IMO the term "better" is simply too subjective to answer this. If you want really stable software, use Stable. If you want to live on the edge and want the latest stuff that might not totally work or destroy your data, use Testing. ;-)

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Mine says:


Is very cool this version, thanks all involve, really.

3 things.

1: I have th docs to go premium, but in the install have a docs to go installer, wich i have it now on the app menu, i got now a reboot when open sheet to go.

2: When reboots after install, the docs to go installer push out as update, i try to update but when open HAM, doesn't have any catalogs.

I open FAM and have the catalogs, open again HAM and the catalogs appears with no problem.

3: With the reboot i coment before, the orientation lock applet got the icon, before the reboot doesn't show it the icon, well an red X icon.

Besides the reboot, everything is good, well when i have potrait my stuff are too big, but i'll figure it out (i know that i can add more desktops now).

Greetings.

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is the issue with the theme customizer resolved or not?

Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 

Yes
For transitions.ini see wiki page

/j

Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 

is stable full full ? i want install

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Full full like this Community SSU/ChangelogStable

Greetings.

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who can take a picture to see difference CSSU?

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how to install cssu stable.i hav the latest cssu. but dint get the stable in the app manager

Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 

Where have you been?
reflash the phone and install the stable from the beginning
or stay with the testing

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If you mean the latest cssu-testing by "latest" then you can only install stable by reflashing and following the instructions on the wiki.

But keep in mind that stable is only a subset of testing, if you want to stay bleeding edge I advise against switching to stable.

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I see a lot here about reflashing, or reflashing if something goes wrong.

Does that mean it's not safe to install CSSU with a broken USB port?

(Regrettably I don't know how to get the port fixed, except purchase another N900.)

Thanks,

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Definitely not the Stable one!

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im currently running on http://i41.tinypic.com/11sku15.png

do i need a reflash? please confirm.

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Just did a clean install on my friends N900. First updated to PR 1.3.1 and then to CSSU stable. Had some problems with Advanced power monitor but reinstall helped. Did the whole proces as in the wiki but one thing came out during this proces. Faster Aplicaiton Manager isn't that good. While I wanted to uninstall Advanced power monitor it wanted to uninstall severall other apps as oppposite to HAM which did it properly. HAM is slow bud does things as it should.

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It should be possible to "drift" from testing to stable just like one would do in Debian. To do that one would have to change the repository from testing to stable which should be done as soon as possible (given that the current testing works fine for you right now).

The effect would be that at the moment nothing will happen because the testing packages are newer than the stable packages. But as time goes by new packages will enter stable and eventually they'll have higher version numbers than the current testing and replace the testing packages bit by bit until nothing of the current testing is left.
Until the transition is complete (which will only happen if eventually all testing packages will make it to stable) the system will be in a state which is similar to one that is based on stable but has some (at the moment - all) packages pinned from testing.
If you chose that way you should know exactly what you're doing. As a rule of thumb: If you don't know what I'm talking about in ths post, don't do it!

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I probably sound very silly right now but.
Just for clarification, does this mean we will no longer be getting over air updates. We will actually be required to reflash the N900 with each new update?

Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 

yes you do ;)

To make this clear: you ONLY need to reflash if you want to go from testing to stable in any other case the cssu installer / OTA will still work as ususal

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Thanks for that hehe.
What is the major difference between the two other than the title.
As personally I like the idea of updates over air.

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If anyone had problem with hildon-desktop not rotate after install of cssu stable try to install "status-area-orientationlock-applet" and activate and deactivate the lock. I have tried "cssu features configuration" tool but it does not help (reboot 3 times).

I went frustrating because had reflashed 4 weeks ago and waited of stable release. Now it works.

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Or type in terminal:
Remember to rearrange your widgets and shortcuts in portrait, hildon-desktop saves that layout seperately!

Info from: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/...hildon-desktop

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Hi everyone im just trying to install it but when i try to update it gives me the error TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE TO THIS VERSION OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM YOU MUST USE NOKIA PC SUITE ON YOUR PC. CONNECT THE DEVICE TO YOUR PC VIA A USB CABLE AND LAUNCH THE APPLICATION., i already followed the FAQ on the installation guide and the problem seems to be the package libqt4-test (4.7.0~git20100909-0maemo1+0m5)

i already tried to run apt-get install libqt4-test

but it tells me: Unable to lock the administration directory (var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?

can you help me please

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In case you have ham still open, close it. The other thing that could be is, that apt-worker is checking for updates, in that case just wait a min or two and try again.

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Thanks and sry, i have expected that rotation were enabled by default and missed this first point in the wiki ^^.

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where do you find that lock?, im not beeing able to find it :o
i runed
Code:
gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool true

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guys my version is 21.2011.38-1maemo1.. there is not "T" or "S".. what version am i using.. sorry if its already answered