RSS Feeds - Gone!
 

I turned on my N800 today and immediately noticed that the RSS feed applet on the home page was void of any feeds and wouldn't retrieve anything. I fired up the factory installed RSS feed and the 3 feeds I had were gone. Nada.

Any clue why this might have happened? The last time I had it powered on (the night before) everything was fine.

Thanks,
David

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Bug #1110.

The RSS Feed Reader is a PoS and not worthy of being on the Internet Tablets as standard, to be honest - there's a ton of bugs against it in Bugzilla, and Nokia have admitted it needs a full rewrite which couldn't happen soon enough. Mind you, same could be said for the email client also.

Voting for bug #1110 may help Nokia focus more effort on fixing the RSS Feed Reader - so far this bug only has one vote even though it seems to be a farely common issue (judging by posts on this forum).

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Thanks for that ...

What are the preferred rss reader and email utils for the N800?

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I disagree with the RSS feed reader and e-mail apps being crap. They are fairly bare-bones and do need some additional work (authenticated rss feeds please?) but both do what they are supposed to, generally.

The feed reader losing its feeds is most likely because you turned it off while the feed reader was updating, corrupting the opml file - my biggest complaint across the two apps by a country mile.

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1. Deleting feeds randomly
2. Deleting articles before they are read
3. Listing articles on the home applet which don't exist when you open them
4. Reboot loops (hopefully fixed)
5. Dodgey screen drag scroll implementation

Just five bugs off the top of my head which make the RSS Feed Reader upleasant if not impossible to use. The main internet focused apps on the Internet Tablets should be excellent examples of their kind, not some old crap that ticks a box.

:)

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I find the RSS reader quite useful too, not a piece of crap as sometimes noted.

The only real, but painful, bug is the disappearence of the feeds. I had this too a few days ago. Hoped it would be fixed with the new release, but it is still there.

Save your opml file often.

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1 - Not really random, but highly annoying.
2 - It doesn't delete articles whatsoever. RSS is not supposed to work that way. It's just supposed to give you the absolute latest headlines. Anything older shouldn't be seen anymore because they are no longer the latest.
3 - Happens when you check just after an update, but not that often.
4 - Never saw this happen, but I can tell you that I was quite paranoid about it when I bought my N800 because I had to get mine imported from the US into Canada back before it was offered up here and the last thing I wanted to do was ship it back to Nokia in the US.
5 - I've never even tried it so it doesn't affect me.

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I couldn't agree more.

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1- have experienced that one a couple of times
2- haven't experienced that one
3- i don't use the home applet
4- haven't experienced that one
5- this one annoys me a lot. Why doesn't this program scroll nicely?

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1. If it's not random, you must known the cause - please tell Nokia, 'cos they can't reproduce it
2. Read the bug concerning this issue - hiding behind some ridiculous spec designed for machine-to-machine communication doesn't cut it when discussing applications designed for humans! :)
3. Still a bug, and annoying
4. Plenty others did
5. That makes it OK then! ;)

:D

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No need, it's already listed on the bug.

That makes no sense as the spec wasn't designed for machine-to-machine communication... and if it was, it would still be valid since all communication on the internet is, you guessed it, machine-to-machine. ;)

Yeah, but it happens fairly rarely. If it's something you really wanted to check out, you know where to get it.

A moment of silence for our fallen friends. I hope to never see this bug, or one like it, show up again.

No, no... not at all. I'm just saying that I've never really noticed it in the RSS reader because of my usage habits. Believe me, I want to see every last bug fixed even if I've never seen them before - an attitude that my boss noticed on our projects by noting "Does not have 'will not fix' in his vocabulary". ;)

Ironically enough, as I was writing this, I noticed my RSS home applet was stuck on Refreshing, so I thought I had possibly triggered the PooF! bug... but apparently not.

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Just a FYI..I have lost my feeds in the past. It has only been when I was using the Vista Theme. Not sure why but, that is the only time.

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I've only used the default themes, so I doubt it's theme-related.

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zerojay - I guess we could discuss this ad inifinitum as has been done in the bug itself, but I see no reason why the RSS Feed Reader shows only 1 article in my engadget feed when I know there are 30 articles available and I haven't yet read the missing 29 articles (which the reader has "kindly" deleted). Whatever spec is being used, it's _wrong_! However, you disagree and I respect that.

Perhaps we need an option: "Delete articles I haven't had a chance to read even though they are still available in the source feed"

:D

My main point about the RSS Feed Reader is that it's simply not up to standard... for an internet focused device, the internet focused applications should be of excellent quality (Opera barely made this grade) and in general the RSS and email apps fall well short, and they're not getting much love from Nokia with each successive firmware relase. :(

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"View expired articles"...

Opera... well, the only problem I have with it is that it was a little too old and didn't support AJAX enough. I don't know what everyone's beefs with the e-mail program is, but I'm not a heavy e-mail user anyways.

Could be that they are saving the love for Chinook.

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Except they've *not* expired. If I've not looked at, opened or in any way otherwise interacted with any RSS applet or application, why should articles be considered expired?

They should expire in one of two situations:

1) I've read them and didn't tick "Save for later"
2) They've been deleted/expired from the upstream feed.

Expiring on automated update is just plain broken, and I've yet to here anything *close* to a reasonable argument that it's not. Where's the UCD here?

1) Broken quoting.
2) Usage of HTML components for plain text emails.
3) Slow.
4) ...

There's lots more, but really I couldn't tell you anymore. I've not used it since OS 2005.

There's no point defending it either, Nokia have realised it's broken or they wouldn't be investing in Modest & Tinymail!

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I'm not really defending it, I just really didn't know. All I heard from people all the time was that it was crap and never any reasons for why it was crap. Of course, it more or less fits my needs, but I have more modest needs for e-mail than quite a lot of you, by the looks of it.

EDIT: um... I think posting in this topic has killed my RSS feed reader. Ever since about noon, my home applet will no longer update and the RSS feed reader app just doesn't open... argh.