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Niwakame 2011-12-06 16:02
[Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Here the full guide for enabling AIM / ICQ / Yahoo / MSN / QIP / Vkontakte chats and integrating it with the Accounts services on Nokia N9.

http://n9.indigoblack.de/img/aimp_add.jpg

Ok, installation should be now as easy as installing these three .deb files in a row.

I've mirrored all of the necessary files for convenience to here:
http://n9.indigoblack.de/

Direct links:

#1: http://n9.indigoblack.de/deb/libpurp...10.0_armel.deb

#2: http://n9.indigoblack.de/deb/telepat....0-1_armel.deb

#3: http://n9.indigoblack.de/deb/im-prov...tional-0.4.deb

Installation
(You don't need to use sqlite3 or mc-tool anymore!)
  • Click on the packages in order 1-3 to download them
  • Use the Transfers view that pop-ups and single click to install (Yes, it works now :) )
  • Install packages in order from 1 to 3. Otherwise installation will fail.

Upgrading from a previous version
  • Download file number #3
  • Use filemanager or transfer-view on your phone to find the .deb file
  • click on the file, it will be upgraded automatically

If you wish to deinstall these later, simply go to
Programs -> Manage Programs -> im-providers-additional and select Deinstall.

Note: This will not remove your accounts, they will simply not show up anymore, if you install the package later again, they will reappear.

Note2: If you experience any icon corruption in Accounts view, please restart

Affiliated thread by billranton here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80501 (thanks again!)


Battery usage seems fine so far. A lot better than using pidgin on N900.

Update1: Alternative add method used, which leaves account disabled when adding. Thanks billranton and rexii23

Update2: Now using the packaged .deb for easy installation and setup. AOL Messenger seems not to work for now.

Update3: Mirrored installation instructions to front page: http://n9.indigoblack.de/ .. not pretty...will do a stylesheet soon.
Incorporated changelog.
Changed topic title

Update4: Thanks @coderus for Vkontakte & QIP providers
Please restart after applying, or ignore the missing icons ;)

Update5: Repackaged .deb files. Now you can install them all by simply clicking on them.

Changelog:
Code:
0.4
    - Vkontakte and QIP added
0.3
    - working AIM
Telepathy-Haze Source: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool....debian.tar.gz
Pidgin (libpurple0) Source: http://n9.indigoblack.de/deb/pidgin-2.10.0-src.tar.gz

billranton 2011-12-06 16:15
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
It might be cleaner to insert the account with a 0 for the last value at the end instead of the 1 so it's disabled, leave the telepathy account disabled (skip mc-tool 'enable'), then let the Accounts app do the enabling. Can anyone test if this works? I have all my accounts set up now :P

Niwakame 2011-12-06 16:17
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1134053)
Can anyone test if this works? I have all my accounts set up now :P
err....I'm having the same problem...so glad if anyone could test this during initial setup

rexii23 2011-12-07 07:50
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1134055)
err....I'm having the same problem...so glad if anyone could test this during initial setup
Just tested this. I had to remove the python packages and installed haze instead. used 0 instead when inserting the account using sqlite. rebooted and then enabled it via the 'Accounts' app. Works with no probs.

Niwakame 2011-12-07 08:18
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Thanks!
Updated guide.

rexii23 2011-12-08 07:57
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Found an issue with Haze using msn. If the contact you wish to talk to is on 'appear offline', then the message sent from the n9 won't be see by that contact. If that contact messages you however, the message does appear. If the contact is on any other status ie online, busy, away, there are not problems.

Is this happening to any one else? Can someone test? I didn't have this issue with butterfly but I had bad connection problems and battery drain with butterfly so I would much prefer to keep haze. This issue with appear offline contacts is almost a deal breaker though!

Niwakame 2011-12-08 08:35
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
I can't test this atm, as I don't have MSN.
But the debian bugtracker doesn't list anything in current unstable (0.5.0-1) which we are using.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgre...telepathy-haze

rexii23 2011-12-08 08:48
Re: Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Could it be an issue with libpurple? on the bugtracker there there is an old outstanding bug with name:
libpurple0: Messages do not arrive, especially not with MSN
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgre...;dist=unstable

billranton, can you please test this for me? thanks!

Niwakame 2011-12-10 00:31
Re: [Update] Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Thread updated, provider files are now correct for easy addition

Niwakame 2011-12-10 22:06
Re: [Update] Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Thread updated, now using packaged deb installation method.

Makeclick 2011-12-12 10:49
Re: [Update] Using and integrating ICQ / Haze with Harmattan / N9
 
Rename this.. it's not easy to find and i think 80% do not even know what haze or ICQ is :)

"how to / easy way to Installing MSN, ICQ, Jabber, AOL and Yahoo! on NokiaN9" ??? And add that cool screenshot too :)

Niwakame 2011-12-12 12:08
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger
 
Someone please test AIM with the new 0.3 installation package!

Makeclick 2011-12-12 14:44
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
nice update Niwakame ;). Now it is easy to find and install.

Arie 2011-12-12 15:11
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136539)
Someone please test AIM with the new 0.3 installation package!
With the libpurple file it tells me can't install invalid installation package....

coderus 2011-12-12 15:25
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
hehe, author forget to tell how to install these debs? =)
You should use terminal under root and dpkg command...

billranton 2011-12-12 15:28
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1136609)
hehe, author forget to tell how to install these debs? =)
You should use terminal under root and dpkg command...
Can't you install them from the n9 web browser? I though that was working now?

warrentaye 2011-12-12 15:29
Aim works now thanks!

coderus 2011-12-12 15:45
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
I can make simple app for changing names, logins, passwords etc. for existing accounts in QML, anyone interested in it?

coderus 2011-12-12 15:59
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1136611)
Can't you install them from the n9 web browser? I though that was working now?
im-providers yes, but not libpurple0 and telepathy-haze.

Maybe Niwakame can repack them too for installing from web or filemanager?

Niwakame 2011-12-12 16:32
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
The only thing I could do is to write an installation script for the three packages.
We have a repository problem atm, so I can't add shared libraries to any of the three pages: Nokia Shop, AppsForMeego, n9-apps

Edit: Added installation / upgrade instructions

coderus 2011-12-12 16:41
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
i mean you packed files to im-providers and it can be installed from web
can you repack libpurple and telepathy-haze?

Niwakame 2011-12-12 16:43
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1136619)
I can make simple app for changing names, logins, passwords etc. for existing accounts in QML, anyone interested in it?
This is a great idea. You can also use something like "Install neccessary prequisites" which will use devel-su to install everything in the first place.
I can provide a simple version.txt file for upgrades on the webserver.

If you want to do this, please use OpenSource principles and let other users also cooperate (I would step in, if you don't mind).

Maybe gitorious or something like that.

Niwakame 2011-12-12 16:45
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1136631)
i mean you packed files to im-providers and it can be installed from web
can you repack libpurple and telepathy-haze?
This has major downsides:
- libpurple is 4.5 megs, thus the im-providers-package will also extend up to 4.5 megs for every small update.
- if we ever get a working dependency system this would f*** things seriously up.

Edit:
Ah...I understand you.
I will look into it.

warrentaye 2011-12-12 17:05
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
I encountered an issue with 0.4 that was not happening with 0.2.

online and offline status of contacts are not updating correctly, also which is think is a big deal, something is causing me not to be able to edit contacts after adding any of the new services.

As soon as I uninstalled the edit menus all popped up one after the other.

Niwakame 2011-12-12 17:06
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by warrentaye (Post 1136645)
I encountered an issue with 0.4 that was not happening with 0.2.

online and offline status of contacts are not updating correctly, also which is think is a big deal, something is causing me not to be able to edit contacts after adding any of the new services.
I've only touched AIM, Vkontakte and QIP.
What service is that problem on?

warrentaye 2011-12-12 17:07
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136646)
I've only touched AIM, Vkontakte and QIP.
What service is that problem on?
its not the service but the integration into contacts. when added and imported. I cannot edit after the fact. As soon as i uninstall the edit menus pop up one after the other.

warrentaye 2011-12-12 17:18
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Reverted back to 0.2 and am not having the issue as I was with .4

Niwakame 2011-12-12 17:18
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Ok, let me specify: What active accounts do you have installed?

PS: Found the .deb problem, repacking both now.

warrentaye 2011-12-12 17:21
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136656)
Ok, let me specify: What active accounts do you have installed?

PS: Found the .deb problem, repacking both now.
msn and yahoo, added aol with 0.4, removed when the issues started.

Niwakame 2011-12-12 17:22
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
could you please try 0.3?
http://n9.indigoblack.de/deb/im-prov...tional-0.3.deb

warrentaye 2011-12-12 17:30
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136659)
I narrowed it down to something aim is doing, reinstalled 0.4 and didnt add aol and it seems fine now. I will try 0.3 in a bit and let you know, meeting now

Niwakame 2011-12-12 17:37
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Strange...maybe a libpurple bug.

Niwakame 2011-12-12 17:47
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
libpurple0 and telepathy-haze repackaged.
They will additionally show up in the Program manager now, so you can easily de-install every package from this thread, if you wish to.

Updated installation guide.

PS: libpurple bugtracker is here:
http://developer.pidgin.im/query?component=libpurple

Arie 2011-12-12 17:56
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136671)
libpurple0 and telepathy-haze repackaged.
They will additionally show up in the Program manager now, so you can easily de-install every package from this thread, if you wish to.

Updated installation guide.

PS: libpurple bugtracker is here:
http://developer.pidgin.im/query?component=libpurple
How do you uninstall the older versions?

warrentaye 2011-12-12 18:00
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136671)
libpurple0 and telepathy-haze repackaged.
They will additionally show up in the Program manager now, so you can easily de-install every package from this thread, if you wish to.

Updated installation guide.

PS: libpurple bugtracker is here:
http://developer.pidgin.im/query?component=libpurple
Do we need to uninstall the old version first?

Arie 2011-12-12 18:00
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by warrentaye (Post 1136682)
Do we need to uninstall the old version first?
I assume yes to be safe, because we don't know what has been changed or overwritten, basically starting with a blank slate again....

Niwakame 2011-12-12 18:03
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
no need to reinstall if you want...libpurple and telepathy haze will only change, when a new .deb file is released by the developers. I will keep updates mirrored as they appear.

Basically these are the same files but with a fixed .deb description, which was the reason for the failed install.

So: These are the same files as before, only the description changed.
I would recommend to only reinstall when updates appear.
If im-providers-additional is changed by me, libpurple0 and telepathy-haze don't need updates.

But IF you wish to reinstall them, please do a
apt-get remove telepathy-haze
in console, which will also remove libpurple0 (devel-su needed)

Err...to be safe: Switch presence status of all accounts to offline and close any "Accounts" view, if you have it open before reinstalling.
After reinstalling, every one of your accounts will appear again.

vihru 2011-12-12 18:06
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
can install facebook on this way?

Niwakame 2011-12-12 18:07
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vihru (Post 1136688)
can install facebook on this way?
Chat via facebook is already included in the stock firmware.

Arie 2011-12-12 18:08
Re: [Update] Guide to: Installing AIM / ICQ / Yahoo Messenger / MSN Messenger / Vkontakte / QIP
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwakame (Post 1136691)
Chat via facebook is already included in the stock firmware.
But as a basic consumer I expect you to do everything the iphone/android/wp7 does on this phone.... ;)


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