Qt headed to WP ?
 

Don't know if this was posted here yet, but it seems they're contemplating Qt on Windows Phones. :eek:
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/12/29/vo...-under-review/
Vote here:
http://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/11...602-qt-support

Edit: Sorry should've posted this in General or Community. Feel free to move....

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Ms won't allow that!

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Who knows. As far as the raw number of app goes, both MS and Nokia would benefit.
Qt is coming to W8 tablets.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/12/q...ows-8-tablets/

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no doubt it would help but they arent doing too bad with 17000 submitted in the last 90 days considering their realativly small market saturation.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/28/w...ion-milestone/

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Yeah, because the lack of Qt was the only thing stopping me from buying a NoWin phone. Seriously, even if they do it who cares?

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

an additional os that supports qt = more apps written in qt = possibly more apps for N9/N900

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Nokia might benefit from it, but MS isn't Nokia, and their general mind set hates cross platform development. What might happen though, that under pressure (or out of desperation to get more attention) they will provide NDK for Windows Phone eventually (it's really stupid they don't have one available now). That will allow porting Qt potentially.

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If they allow QT, who will use IE9? :D

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no less people will use IE9 anyway

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People still use IE? Wtf, since when? oO

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I am curious to know how which tools / compilers was used for a such port ?

On wp7 I know there is a NDK but available to restricted partners ...

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http://rzr.online.fr/q/qt

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

"Available to restricted partners" means unavailable in practice. So until they release it actually - it doesn't worth your attention.

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I found IE9 very useful to download firefox

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Yeah, Firefox Mobile for WP7 is one of the fastest ports :)

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Your thinking too small minded! Its the fact that Qt introduced to WP7 which seems to be having a massive leap in the amount of apps produced each day, meaning! We can get MORE apps on our N9 :)


Developers will go for Qt if its on a commercially viable platform! :)

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Holy ****, Qt is already "commercially viable" for ages. Hint: WP is not hindered by the missing Qt support.

From TFA:

"Imagine if Qt developers suddenly just had the ability to port tens of thousands of apps to the platform? (I’m sure it’s not that simple otherwise, N9 would also have tens of thousands of N8′s Qt apps)."

Well said.

Btw: where's Waldo, err, gerbick, w/ his opinion? IIRC he was one of those viable WP devs?

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Who gives a damn about WP??? Even if they get Qt iit wouldn't change the fact that the mainstream smartphone users do not want anything to do with windows phones.

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Key word there is "possibly". We're not exactly flooded with N9/Meego/Symbian Qt apps on our N900 these days. Even Nokia didn't provide N900 versions of the N9's apps, and they're the ones who used that line to sell everyone to use Qt in the first place...

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

exactly why I put it there the only apps that can be ported with minimal effort are those that use only qt quick anything else would have to be basically rewritten ...what a mess


http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...ps_to_Nokia_N9

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

i dont want qt on wpsuck.

thing is qt rocks and without qt wp will fail. And I want to see elop and bllmers crying when theyr realise theyr os s biggest joke ever.

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and the mainreason for that is qml was not ready when n900 was alive. And btw you must be really blind if you havent see all qt apps comming to n9!? And also alot backported to n900 thanks to mer and maemo5 cssu.

qt will change alot to the better 2012. I am sure even androiddevs will use it let wpfail use theyr own crap so it fails.

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You realize if WP fails then the Nokia Microsoft partnership will fail and ultimately Nokia's smartphone division will fail. Whatever marketshare/mindshare Symbian has is getting swallowed up by iOS and Android at an ever increasing rate. For atleast the next three years, it's in every Nokia fans best interest that WP is a success with the help of Nokia. With three major OSes for smartphones each with roughly 25-35% marketshare/mindshare, Nokia would have the opportunity to release a FOSS “disruption” after splitting with MS. Hopefully the MS Nokia partnership can give Nokia the opportunity to have a dominant global marketshare/mindshare again.

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

One potential benefit of getting NDK on WP is Firefox port. Microsoft knows that, and they use the restriction to ban competition. So I doubt they'll ever release it, until they'll realize that their bans are making their own platform only worse. Bad for them anyway.

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Why would MS put Qt on WP when .NET is pretty strong in the dev community?
The new WP is a platform they're strict about.

Also of note: TouchDevelop

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The answer is obvious for those who value freedom - choice. But Microsoft doesn't care about choice (be it developer's or user's).

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If they are successful with WP, why would they want to create a FOSS device? plus wasn't the whole point of the partnership for nokia to spend less money on R & D?

but if QT was coming to WP sure why not, means just more devs,,,

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What's to stop Nokia regaining its independence if the MS-Nokia partnership fails? In fact the best thing that can happen now is for Lumia to fail quickly and spectacularly so that the MS mole Elop can be booted out before Nokia sustain too much damage.

Nokia has shafted aside its own promising MeeGo OS in favour of MIcrosoft's. It does not control the hardware specs or OS of WP7, is unable to distinguish its phones from other WP7 manufacturers and earns nothing from the app store.

However Nokia's dalliance with MS may be fatal. A Wall St. consultant which regularly compiles a list of brands that are going to disappear in the near-term has named Nokia on its latest list. This company has been prescient in the past and accurately predicted the death of T-Mobile.

http://247wallst.com/2011/06/22/247-...ear-in-2012/4/

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

If MS (or others) do not officially support Qt it will always be second choice behind native toolkits. On the other hand its probably easier to mimick native look and feel on mobile than on desktop, e.g. with qt quick components..

It seems though nokia has no interest in doing that themselves, i.e. officially only desktop platforms are being supported.

Um..I don't think they will be able to switch their whole product line-up back to meego in time. Nokia needs to succeed with wp7, and if they do they'll probably be the only major wp7 handset maker.

I'm still not really convinced of this partnership since its gonna be difficult for nokia to be truly innovative without their own platform.

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Its all about long-term goals and business.
If the Nokia-Microsoft deal falls flat, I'm certain Nokia will go the way of RIM and then follow Palm's pathway. They just dont have the resources, the cash, manpower or the time to become relevant in the ecosystem wars.

Windows Phone will still do fine, its slowly catching up (there's Mango, then the HTC TITAN, and now 50,000 apps).

Nokia NEED to succeed in this deal to recover, much more than Microsoft, but that doesnt mean Microsoft isn't benefiting. In fact, Microsoft wants to purchase Nokia but they dont want to make a bad investment. All due to Nokia's SIZE, so instead they are taking a half-measure and using them instead.


So what's really happening? I think Nokia and Microsoft are collaborating heavily behind the scenes. Nokia is handing out a lot of control to them (OS, WP requirements, etc) and also promising to nurture and grow WP7 to be competitive. Ofcourse Nokia's asking for enough profit to continue their business, but they would need to do more to be relevant.

And that got me thinking, not so long ago Microsoft axed an amount of its own developers, and Nokia layed off an even larger amount....perhaps Nokia developers will join Microsoft within the collaboration in hopes of expanding their [Nokia] resources.

And that leaves a few things: patents, spectrum, and Qt.
Its established Qt is mobile friendly so perhaps the collaboration is to introduce DK of Qt-Metro natively for Windows8 "apps" (arm and x86) and allow Windows "programs" to be made in the traditional .NET

(sidenote: silverlight is doing horribly)

That makes a lot of sense for Microsoft, and it also means more opportunity for Nokia to do business (since they REALLY need it).

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

IMHO it doesn't really matter whether you can develop with Qt for WP or not.

As long as you cannot run your own software on your own phone without paying a yearly ransom to Microsoft, WP is not attractive for developers coming from the open world.

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

...side story:
http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/...ew-hits-a-snag

:D

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

I'd say the availability of NDK for WP has the same interest for FOSS like ability to have ports for desktop Windows (like that of Firefox, LibreOffice etc.). I.e. it helps people to switch away from proprietary platforms, while still maintaining some familiar software stack :)

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Alright. I will make Nokia/MS an offer. Give me a device where I can develop and run PyQt applications and I will buy it. Otherwise, forget it.

There!

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Since WP7 is nothing but a runtime environment for Sliverlight and XNA applets, Qt on WP7 is even technically totally out of scope.

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Well, I guess it is forget it. Now, don't say I wasn't willing to compromise. :p

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I dont give a **** what happens to nokia cause they aldready is microsoft. Look at the stock value for **** sake 50 percen down since that idiotboard decided to go wp!

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Not 100% true, but you are right it would be a pointless move by Microsoft.

But what I posted above does make sense= ARM-based tablets utilizing the Qt-framework within Windows8.

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So it's "our" fault if we don't all go out and buy Nokia's WP phones to help rescue Nokia from it's "bad decision of the decade"?

Assuming that all Nokia fans do rush out and buy up all Nokia WP phones and make it a "success". What do you think is more likely:

a) Elop announces that the deal with Microsoft is a resounding success and will build on it to make even more WP phones

or

b) Elop announces Nokia is making too much money on WP phones so now it will spend it on making a "FOSS disruption" phone.

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

Nokia's bad decision of the decade was NOT executing a full scale international patent war assault on the Cupertino Crew upon the release of the original iPhone in 2007. Patent war Armageddon should have come and gone taking with it Stevie Job's beloved iPhone and allowing for the release of the scientists that he still probably has locked in his basement.

Re: Qt headed to WP ?
 

You prefer Nokia to become another patent troll? I wouldn't buy a thing from them in that case. Doing it in defense isn't the same though.