Maemo, Meego, Tizen
 

I was one of the first people in my area to buy the N900 and I've been sitting quietly waiting for Maemo6, sorry Meego, Oooops sorry again Tizen.

Well there is still no news for the final working OS for my N900. I have now bought a tablet with android and I'm now waiting for ICS which has been confirmed by Sony to be coming soon.

But my brilliantly designed N900 phone (I love the keyboard) is now starting to run badly.

So what should I do:

1). Wait for the right OS to be ready.
2). Put Android on my N900
3). Buy an Android phone

The good news is that I'm not interested in any other OS.

Can someone, who really knows whats happening, tell me, I'm begining to loose hope.

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Ole! Marbella!

reflash it, get a new battery for it and enjoy it all over again!
There's alot more info now on how to run the phone better :)
Generally, less is more ;)

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Thanks for that really usefull information, sorry but, I know how to use my phone and both of my batteries are in tip top condition.

I just want a finished OS, maybe a system monitor can respond or a OS programmer or someone that really knows.

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Really knows what?

Not sure you have stated any requirements here.

I am not sure an OS is ever truly finished.

rgds

ps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hti5e7tY2Q

memory lane, back in the days when we thought 3.5 million lines of code was enough for anyone, oh how we laughed.

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I dont think there will ever be a Maemo6, Meego is not HTML 5 based and the tizen website gives very little information.

So it's all a little bit confusing. I currently have the version 21.2011.38-1of maemo5 that includes qt.

I know that no OS is really finished, they are all ongoing projects.

But every time I try to show the machine to someone, something breaks infront of them, its either maps, gallery with no zoom mode, bluetooth or something important, so is it worth me waiting around for another year?

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Define what you regard as a "finished OS".

(tip: it doesn't exist)

In answer to your question: 3

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"But every time I try to show the machine to someone, something breaks infront of them, its either maps, gallery with no zoom mode, bluetooth or something important, so is it worth me waiting around for another year?"

None of these things happen on mine, it works as near flawlessly as I would wish for and is therefore as close to finished as I need.

I use Maemo 5, v21.2011.38-1

Of course showing it off to others isn't on my list of requirements though, but I am sure if it was then it would do that brilliantly too.

rgds

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You can zoom into satelite view with the maps.
You can zoom into a photo you just took.
You have multipal profiles and grouping for your contacts.
Your sms messages can be read to you.
You can syncronise your N900 with your linux based pc.
You can talk to your phone through your car.

I cant do any of these things.

But, I used to be able to do all these things with my N95, I got ride of it thinking that this phone would beat the N95 hands down.

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1, 2, 5: Working fine.
3,4 & 6: No idea, have no use for those functions.

Sounds like you want to re-flash your phone if it can't even zoom in on a photo...

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Seems like classical fault on user side - user breaks something, user accuse device of working "badly".

Anyway, only one project that can be considered a possible successor - both for new devices, and for N900 - is Mer, probably with Nemo/Lipstick.

[rant mode]Tizen is joke, CordiaHD as UI for Mer isn't even going to be on usable state (my personal opinion, so don't ask for quotes), and 'Nokia ADHD (tm)' isn't going to be of any use for FOSS community for upcoming years, I suppose.

Instead of whining, go fix system on Your device, or follow jedi's advice, buy Android phote, and smoke it. ;) [/rant mode]

/Estel

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If I had any other Instalation "Estel", you could accus me of that, but, this is not the case.

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Whining is for people who use micros**t because they really do have some to whine about.

I just want all my devices to work properly and together. What's wrong with that?

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Working properly and supported properly are two different things.

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So, you're a Windows user then?

Really - just flash it!

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No, I can't stand wind ooooos, and refuse to write it properly.
I am a "Ubuntu" fan, I have it on my workhorse, my laptop and I will probably go with Ubuntu in my mobile too.

But instead of going blindly into it, I thought it best, to get advice from someone who knows.

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As I said, MY requirements are working flawlessly.

rgds

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Get yourself a cheap but well equipped Android phone, e.g. ZTE Blade or Skate (aka Orange San Francisco and Monte Carlo), scrub the network operator cludge from it, install CM7 or a respected ROM from modaco and get the Android urge out of your system.

My Blade is handy for when my N900 is incapacitated, or when I simply need gapps integration while out and about (or to update my call contacts in the car since phonebook integration doesn't work).

You will return to your N900 after a week or so, newly invigourated for Maemo and her ways.

And if you don't, you can sell it for a tidy sum for double what you paid for the ZTE.

My Blade has just received a dual battery mod after I nabbed another wrecked unit. Will be using that for a week while my N900 gets a good scrubbing and spring clean.

N900 4 EVAZ, as they say.

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First off: What made you think the N900 (a tablet-based phone) would bet at all like your N95 (feature phone)? They're not at all in the same class. It's like saying "I thought this airplane would beat my old VWBug hands down, but it doesn't even have a speedometer!"

I love showing off my N900, and it can do things that no other phone or tablet can do. I routinely zoom in to photos I just took. I have it setup to have espeak read me text messages *through my car audio system* when it's connected. (Which happens every time I turn my car on, automatically.) I sync my N900 with Outlook and with my Google calendar (via an ical script) regularly.

The only thing I don't do from your list is have multiple groups or special profiles, which would be great but isn't a "must have" for me. If by 5 you mean voice command for your phone, like Siri, the N900 had that well before Siri existed. There's a voice recognition package in the repositories (pocketsphinx) to do just that, though it takes some know-how to make it work.

Understand nothing you've listed is OS based. In every device out there, this is all done with apps, either apps written by the provider, or apps from a 3rd party. Sometimes those apps are tightly bundled with the OS (from the manufacturer), but outside monolithic platforms like Symbian, it's not part of the base OS.

Other things I do with my phone that I've yet to find all together on another device:

• Can run a private servers for Web, FTP, SVN, and more.
• Can turn into a wifi hot spot w/o separate charges. (via Joiku or MHS)
• Can use USB devices & thumb drives (vai h.e.n.)
• Supports GSM, 3G, skype, and all major IM protocols.
• Supports full-device backup/restore, w/ rescue mode (BackupMenu)
• Has free dev tools, free garage, free repository, and can support any Deb-compliant repository as an "app store".
• Syncs easily with Outlook, Google, and anything that supports VCard, ical, or csv formatted entries. Raw access to the whole database (IM, mail, contacts, etc) is available via sqlite.
• Has full, open, non-warranty-breaking root mode for access to everything (hardware and the raw system files).
• Supports loading 3rd party firmware images via USB with no user lock-out capabilities.

Show me any device that gives you all that, and the stuff you listed above. I doubt it exists anywhere, outside of the N900. I know, I've been looking for years. That's how I found this device. :)

The N900 is capable of doing everything you've mentioned and more. The fact that you can't do it means it's something you're doing (or not doing) that's causing the issue. Jumping to another device isn't going to fix that... Staying an whining about it isn't going to fix it either.

One word of advice, since you seem fixated on jumping: If you do decide to pick another device to jump to, do yourself (and the next forum) a favor. Investigate the device before you buy it, so you know exactly what it can and can't do. And when I say investigate, I mean go to a store and try it out. Don't rely on a forum, or an advertisers site, or you tube videos, or whatever it was that lead you to get an N900, since clearly that didn't work. Get up off your duff and waddle out to a store that actually has display models, and pick based on real trials.

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Apparently samsung's bada will be merged to tizen

http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabet...tizen-project/

So the split merge circle goes on and on.

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Hehe. Who's next, webOS?

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Well, why not ? The more the merrier :) Actually, just check out a random desktop distro - it supports a ton of application frameworks without a hitch (due to package management) - not just one or two like most mobile Linux based systems.

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I agree. I don't really like that kind of exclusiveness (like Qt only, EFL only etc.). Normal distros support a choice, and even all at once. May be managing that in mobile distributions is harder, but it shouldn't be impossible. Instead of dropping GTK for Qt, then Qt for EFL and so on, they better develop a system where any of those could be used productively.

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^I disagree.

I want it to be exclusive (eg, Qt and HTML only) because it makes it more rigid for developers/power-users/ecosystem and also a *lighter OS* with better battery management.

But I want it to have the underlying potential for supporting more. For instance, use stock Linux kernel and have Python etc etc available through a custom rom.

Desktop Distro's have the luxury of a speedy processor, less graphic intense purposes, no touchscreens, and no need for advanced battery management. Unlike mobileOSes

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Re: Maemo, Meego, Tizen
 

you need to work for porting Tizen on n900

https://developer.tizen.org/