Nokia Lumia 900 Official : "Born for the USA" !
 

Nokia and AT&T introduce the Lumia 900
4.3" ClearBlack AMOLED, 4G LTE, exclusive to AT&T
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BREAKING NEWS
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CES 2012 | Las Vegas | Jan 9, 2012
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OK, curtains up! Finally, our beloved colorful - unibody - Sleek - Blazingly fast twins [the N9 & Lumia 800 combine] get their younger brother for the U.S. markets... and Globally that too. This time, probably everything is set right! Away from the long hide-n-seek, selective constipated launches of this truly Nokia flagship design marvel... And boy! Though not Harmattan - it surely is quite comparative to our N9, vis-a-vis its cellular presence - yes, it supports T-Mobile's LTE Band-4, 1700MHz - so we (Canadians, looking to breakaway from the Big-3s monopoly, stand happily covered) - A big thank you to Nokia!

TECH SPECS

Operating Frequency
GSM: (850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900)
WCDMA Band-I: (2100)
WCDMA Band-II: (1900)
WCDMA Band-V: (850)
WCDMA Band-VIII: (900)
LTE Band-17: (700)
LTE Band-4: (1700/2100)

CPU / Hardware
Processor: Single, 1.4GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8055 + MDM9200 (WCDMA)
RAM: 512MB (Uh!)
OS: Windows Phone Release 7.5 – Mango
Storage: 16GB internal memory (14.5GB user memory) + SkyDrive cloud storage (no micro-SD slot !)

Dimensions
Height: 5.03"
Width: 2.7"
Thickness: 0.45"
Weight: 160g (5.6 ounces)
HxWxT: 127.8 x 68.5 x 11.5 mm

Display and UI
Capacitive
Display size: 4.3”
Screen height x width: 800p x 480p
AMOLED ClearBlack
Corning® Gorilla® Glass

Camera
Main: 8mp, Carl Zeiss, dual LED flash, f2.2/28mm aperture (larger than others)
Front: 1mp, 1280 x 720p, f2.4 lens and 30fps capture
Video: HHD 720p/30fps (Uh!) Hi-Res

Extra Features
Gyroscope
Micro SIM
2 Microphones
Bing Maps, Nokia Maps, Nokia Drive
AT&T Navigator
Xbox Live
FM Radio (Oh!)
Wi-Fi
Micro USB
Bluetooth 2.1 +EDR
USB 2.0 High-Speed
3.5mm AHJ Connector
NFC

Power Pack
Battery: BP-6EW 1830mAh
All Day Life: Upto 7-h talk time, 300-h stand-by time, music 60-h, video 6.5-h

Available Colors
Only two, BLACK and CYAN

Detailed Specs:
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/10/no...usa-techspecs/

THE INTRO-VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=k3Nfh9bl0Z8#!

With this, Lumia 900, Nokia finally goes worldwide with our amazingly stunning N9's wow factor. All other design criterion remaining the same, this powerhouse, built exclusively for AT&T, promises a bigger, faster, stronger smartphone experience - thanks to its larger screen, faster processor and support for the best mobile data transfers available to date. The Nokia Lumia 900 allows data downloads up to 50Mbps on AT&T’s 4G LTE network. With a plus being a souped-up battery, promising the day!

The Nokia Lumia 900 will be available (especially in the U.S.) in the next couple of months, with March 18th being tipped as the expected launch date. There's no word on pricing yet, but Stephen Elop did say Nokia would be "aggressive" and "it is supposed to be built for Speed and Internet" -- whatever that may be. For sure, in a couple of days we'd know where the accolades & brickbats head to.

Qorax

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Watch the screen techology: I bet it is Super Amoled plus, normal RGB.

While the N9 users are stuck into eternity witht their smaller pentile matrix screen.

(trying to focus on real values in life grrrr...)

Edit: here you have it: the news about the most important difference (2nd to soon world wide avialability and support) starts to come in:

http://nokiabuff.com/2012/01/10/good...pentile-amoled

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It's all about ppi. Higher ppi is only possible in pentile, so you have to choose if you want to see pixelation, or put up with the inferior color of pentile, or inferior black of LCD. Stripe lcd upper ppi limit seems to be about 210-230 ppi. I would love if you could prove me wrong.

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It is all about operating systems. As Rousseau would have said, "Phones were born free, yet everywhere they are in chains."

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where could one purchase nokia lumia unbranded and complete factory unlock?

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I don't understand why they are re-using old Nokia device numbers like the 800 and 900? Are they trying to add a some masculinity to the Lumia name ;)

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Of course it doesn't have pentile, the res. is low enough to allow that :rolleyes:
When the N9 1st came out even Samsung didn't have SAMOLED+ (non-pentile SAMOLED) phones w/resolutions higher than the N9.*
Hmm FF cam looks slightly worse than N9's, but at least it'll prolly work out-of-the-box :rolleyes:

Distinct hw advantages I can see so far:

*4.3" Display (AMOLED CBD non-pentile, is this 100% confirmed?)
Debatable whether this is a huge advantage considering poor res/PPI, but non-pentile's pretty big.
*LTE
Again debatable whether this is huge, but it's def. one of the two distinct advantages.

Possible:
*Gyroscope
I can't recall if N9 has, pretty sure it does.
*2 Microphones
Ditto....
*Front: 1mp, 1280 x 720p, f2.4 lens and 30fps capture
N9 is 1.3MP, but can't recall if it's specc'd like that in red.
*Battery: BP-6EW 1830mAh
Remains to be seen how this plays out in real-world usage.
*All Day Life: Upto 7-h talk time, 300-h stand-by time, music 60-h, video 6.5-h
Ditto....

Unknown:
*NFC
Is it really as sophisticated as the N9's NFC support, WP doesn't have the right kind of support?
*802.11an
No 802.11an for 900 right?

There's several areas the N9's still better, not overly impressed so far.
Non-pentile screen is a "biggy" if that's true.
We should get that on revised N9's else we're being somewhat screwed.
The panel tech should allow it for the N9's res. now.

*although IIRC there was one or two Motorola's.

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If it is so good why did Nokia fear selling it alongside the N9? Afraid that N9 will eat it for lunch?

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You're wrong. Only Samsung phones (Wave, Galaxy S, SII, GNex, Note) have the Super-Amoled screens and a few Motorola (RAZR/MAXX/Droid4).

There are four variations of these screens and I rate them (best to worst):
Super-AMOLED Plus (SGSII)
Super-AMOLED (SGS)
RGB-AMOLED (N-900)
AMOLED (Desire)

Also note the SGSII and the Nokia-900 have the same size and pixel count, so if people are praising the SII's screen you shouldn't be worried about the 900's.

(On a personal note, a S-AMOLED+ with qHD resolution on 4.7in would be a good trade-off against a regular S-AMOLED and 720p)

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You base that on what exactly?
Where are these "four variations" doco'd in more detail?
I was of the understanding there's a few more iterations than that.

Thank-you.

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My take is that there are only two kinds of AMOLED screens coupled with various gimmicks

RGB AMOLED (E7, i8910, SGSII, 900, N85 et al.)
PenTile AMOLED (Nexus One, SGS, N9, RAZR et al.)

"Super" stands for the gimmick that it has the touch sensor integrated
"CBD" stands for a polarizer filter on top of it (Nokia only, samsung also have polarizers but don't advertise it)
"Plus" stands for non-PenTile (Samsung only - Nokia also has RGB Stripe screens but they don't advertize it)

98% of AMOLED Screens are made by Samsung according to wikipedia, so probably Nokia and Samsung screens are the same.

The deciding factor is probably the subpixel size. They start from what res and size they want and if it fits they go for RGB, else they go for PenTile. I expect Samsung to keep the higher res RGB screens for themselves for some months before licensing them to others, so that it helps them achieve World Domination™

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So basically they are all AMOLED displays, nearly all Samsung sourced, with differences in:
-screen size
-resolution
-subpixel coordination (PenTile vs PenTile&white + RGB)
-"Super" sensor (viewing angles, polarizer, brightness, consumption)

To simplify things, they can be grouped into 4 categories:
1)Super AMOLED (RGB)
2)Super AMOLED (PenTile)
3)AMOLED (RGB)
4)AMOLED (PenTile)

1) Only available on SGSII
2) Available on RAZR, Droid4 and all Samsung phones (Wave, Galaxy S, Galaxy Nexus, Note)
3) Nokia Lumia 900
4) Nexus One, Desire, etc etc (many phones from 2010)

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My understanding too basically....
Although (1) & (3) is also known as SAMOLED+ & AMOLED+ respectively.
The "+" refers to RGB (non-PenTile) sub-pixel config, but is more-so Samsung's exclusive marketing name IIRC.

I did a bunch of research yonks back, & found everything that defines the "Super" in SAMOLED (escapes me now, will dig up).
This enabled me to conclude that the N9's CBD AMOLED (despite not being appended w/"Super") is basically a SAMOLED (Pentile).*
That would make the 900 a SAMOLED (RGB), assuming the rumors are correct about it's sub-pixel configuration.

*These were two of the reasons reasons, but quite sure there was more to it:

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Dubai, being one of them. Here every phone goes 'factory-unlocked' alongside network-locked units... that's a TRA regulation.

Which also reminds me... we could get unbranded devices [w/out the AT&T logo] there!

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Yep, the Lumia 900 was originally named 'Ace'... how, why it got dropped - is unknown.

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How Stuffs Work? AMOLED

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1. AMOLED (active-matrix organic light-emitting diode) is a display technology that generate light upon electrical activation that have been deposited or integrated onto a thin film transistor (TFT) array, which functions as a series of switches to control the current flowing to each individual pixel. Two primary TFT backplane technologies, namely polycrystalline silicon (poly-Si) and amorphous silicon (a-Si), are used today in AMOLEDs. These technologies help fabricating flexible plastic AMOLED displays - the backbone of smartphones.

2. Super-AMOLED is a variant from AMOLED (marketed by Samsung, soon being industry standard on all smartphones) mainly for the layer that detects touch - is integrated into the screen rather than being overlaid on top. Super-AMOLED advantages are brighter screens, less sunlight reflection and reduced power consumption.

3. Super-AMOLED Plus, first introduced with the SGS-II and Samsung Droid Charge smartphones, is a further development where the PenTile RGBG pixel matrix (2 subpixels) is replaced with Samsung's "Real Stripe" (3 subpixels) RGB subpixel arrangement. This goes from 8 to 12 subpixels per group, resulting in finer details. The screen technology is also brighter, thinner with AMOLED Plus displays being 18% more energy efficient than the previous Super AMOLEDs.

4. HD Super-AMOLED is a new S-AMOLED display from Samsung. The 1st device to use it was the Galaxy Note. The 2nd device to use it is Samsung's Galaxy Nexus phone - with a 4.65" display with 1280x720 resolution. The higher resolution and dpi were made possible due to a change in materials and new manufacturing process, though still using shadow mask (or fine metal mask [FMM]) technology. However this required a change back to pentile RGBG subpixels.

5. HD Super-AMOLED Plus. Samsung is expected to introduce a new screen using "Real Stripe" RGB subpixels with the move to the laser-induced thermal imaging (LITI) process. The change to LITI is also said to be an important step toward commercializing OLED TVs.

NOTE:
-AMOLED fabricators include AU Optronics and Samsung.
-Samsung has marketed their version as Super-AMOLED.
-Clear Black Display (CBD) is an AMOLED display with a polarized filter on top.
-DuPont used computational fluid dynamics (CFD) to optimize a new solution for AMOLEDs.
-DuPont's technology is cost and performance competitive for large display sizes.
-Though specs r yet unclear, it is expected that the Lumia 900 uses a Super-AMOLED Plus screen.

Qorax

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Why is this in the "Nokia N9 / N950" section?

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Strange all the discussions about naming of screen tech: honestly I couldn't care less what Samsung is calling it's latest screen prototype technology.
I may be wrong on Lumia 900 being SAMOSUPERLED Plus Extra Razortina but the Pentile should not have made it to the N9.

Nokia engineers have made a critical (or deliberate) mistake to use this tech and it will age very quick. What is worse, it tires the eyes too.

Pentile should never have made it to this one of a kind device. Period.

No excuse of better black, resolution or ppi restrictions or requirements will set this straight.

Come one, we are watching poorly calibrated 16 bits graphics here. I want my text readable.

Steve Jobs wit his retina showed at least some insight in the matter.

Now that the Lumia 900 has better screen tech it is all the more clear that we got the Windows mid range testing intro hardware at a premium price. Forever.

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qorax, are you Elop?
(seems like you're from Canada aswell)

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Sorry Sir.
Just b'coz I'm "only" here - in this section.
The inconvenience is deeply regretted.

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Clear Black is not Super AMOLED. These two could not be more different, even if they produce similar results.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/11/17/w...mia-800-or-n9/

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Oh, I love my N9 Sir!
Got all the three... and awaiting the 'white'. As the game of things look like - the N9 shall soon be relegated to being 'collector's item' & I seriously want them to hold for good! This is a fantabulous device - and our future generations should know/understand what they missed-out on, courtesy the lopsided-dimwit Elop!

I ranted on the Lumia 900 for the simple reason that it brought forward this awesome design marvel of the N9 to the WORLD. At least now they'd get to know what a state-of-the-art eqpt. the trio's elder brother - the N9 felt like.

Qorax

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I supported Windows, Linux, Unix, Novell & Apple, etc in large corporate networks for years. I pretty much like every OS except Windows, which I hate passionately.

I hate Windows because of its registry, c:\, next-next-dummy-finish, virus, IE, $$, Outlook, reinstall every 5 months, constant update and restart, blue screen of death, single vendor, etc, etc, etc. I can list 1000 other reasons. And don't forget it is from Micro$oft.

I am tired. I don't want to see Windows on my Desktop. I changed my career because I got tired of doing stupid things everyday and becoming more stupid every day supporting Windows. Why in the world would I get excited with Windows on a phone, which is more personal than a desktop.

The WP7 interface is not attractive as far as I am concerned. The large fonts for certain things, sometimes only part of the word showing up. The square buttons - thought they say they are active - who cares.

N9 - though the hardware is beautiful, it is the OS that makes me happy. I am pretty much sure N9 will be my last Nokia.

This section is for N9 and N950 only. Please don't infect this with Windows crap. You can submit it in competitors section.

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What abyzthomas said! Windows OS and Qualcomm processor??

http://files.sharenator.com/KILL_IT_...350-161316.jpg

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There is nothing sophisticated about the kind of NFC support the N9 has. On the contrary, it is quite basic (no SWP).

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All the mobile AMOLED screens are pretty much Samsung screens indeed. Though S AMOLED and Clear Black Display are not the same.
Samsung provides the screen, Nokia attaches the layer with polarized filter.
That's my understanding.

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interestingly enough, it doesn't support the 1700 band, and no NFC and storage capacity is capped at 16GB. i'll take an N9 any day over that bollocks.

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I don't know if I made it clear enough but I never intended to say that cbd and SAMOLED is the same thing.

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Windows Phone might be good for a tablet because of all the MS Office compatibility and alike s*it to make office work easier, but for a phone? I am not so sure.

N9 rocks because it sports MeeGO, and is actually more expensive in Europe than Lumia 800. Hmm.... If I had to choose again between N9 and both Lumia, I'd take N9 once again.

Good to know Nokia gained some impetus lately, though. Apple's overwhelming commercial bulls*it is really tiring.

BTW, looking forward to that Nokia Tablet running WP that's supposed to be released in the summer. I hope Nokia keeps the N9/Lumia's design. If it does I am pretty sure to get one.

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I know there's no SWP (there may be a possible hw workaround, but that's another chat).
I was referring to the fact that I'm not aware of Mango supporting NFC period, nor Tango.

Aside from secure transactions....
What are the NFC features the N9's missing, that make it's NFC support basic compared to others?
There are other handy uses for NFC as far as I'm aware (secure transactions is the killer app IMO though).

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Official specs listed NFC, is that wrong? Makes sense to me that it is.

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Wow another WP device people wont give a f*** about I wonder how many Nokia will manage to make before the grand closing or buyout.
I say around 10

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It supports T-Mobile's 1700, which is why it might be appealing to many, just like the N9 (which wasn't launched [sic!] in many parts of the world, especially in the North Americas).

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So this phone would work on USA T-Mobile with 3g ?

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Even though it supports tmobile 3g, but it exclusively only available to att customers. That meants no unlocked device will be available for sale and surely the device will need to be jailbroken before i can work with other carrier, sound like an old exclusive iphone game awhile back.

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If its still the same with the rest of Nokia Phone, you should be able to ask your friend who have AT&T (and good credit record - who has been with them more than 1 year++) to call AT&T to unlock it for you.

Interesting:
LTE Band-4: (1700/2100)

Never know thatT-Mobile 4G now become LTE-Band 4 :P

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LTE has been standardized on a number of frequency bands, one of them is band #4, AWS (1700/2100). This doesn't mean phone will work on T-Mo 3G, LTE & 3G (WCDMA) use different radio technology.

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I'd like to see a Lumia 900 for Tmobile, with no LTE, but with 1GB of RAM instead. Jyeah, that would be tight.

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Compare this with htc titan ll. Nokia must step up the game. Really nokia is not alone on the Windows arena.

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^ There's a Titan II already? Hahaha ohhh Nokia... "shakes head".