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teamer 2012-02-02 17:36

NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
YES !
N900 is a BRILLIANT phone and most of all i love its OS
MAEMO 5 ! it's just what we need !
but the phone it self lacks a good battery (3000mAh would be just GR8) , double ram , and double CPU speed
and make USB OTG working ! thats all , you built the perfect phone !

- i am ok with -no multitouch- (really its ok for me and for most of you n900 users right ?)

- am just fine with the lack of 100000000s of apps android and iphone have (i prefer having 100 needed apps like on n900 rather than 1000sands of useless apps like ones on iphone and android)

am in love with easy debian - the IM and sms system , the contacts , the calendar thats syn with google calendar via erminig app , the ability to use things like aircrack , the brilliant desktop , the ability to handle tough tasks ... really NOKIA u did and ABANDONED the BEST PHONE ON THE PLANET !

and i am still waiting for some phone that has a better battery , a better cpu just to port maemo on it , even if it was samsung or anything i just want MAEMO with all those features !

now who would like an N900 with 2GB ram and 1500ghz CPU ? (without overclock) ?

i am sure 99% of you will say YES !

Dave999 2012-02-02 17:44

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
I would like to have one. Can you send one to me?

teamer 2012-02-02 17:48

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1159553)
I would like to have one. Can you send one to me?

Haha yes sure once NOKIA build one ! N900i :p
i hope they will make some device that we can install maemo5 on !

don_falcone 2012-02-02 17:48

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teamer (Post 1159549)
and 1500ghz CPU ? (without overclock)?

...is that a bitslice CPU?

Iktwo 2012-02-02 17:49

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Imagine a N950 with NFC, usb 4.0, super amoled screen, 720p resolution, FM TX RX, IR Transmiter, HDMI, dual core processor, 2 GB ram, USB OTG.. MAEMO 5!

Everyone would love it..

I agree with teamer, it's better to have few useful apps than a lot useless..

teamer 2012-02-02 17:55

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iktwo (Post 1159559)
Imagine a N950 with NFC, usb 4.0, super amoled screen, 720p resolution, FM TX RX, IR Transmiter, HDMI, dual core processor, 2 GB ram, USB OTG.. MAEMO 5!

Everyone would love it..

I agree with teamer, it's better to have few useful apps than a lot useless..

the idea is to have MAEMO5 ! that would be Gr8 !

teamer 2012-02-02 17:57

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
and i forgot the most important ... a KEYBOARD , those on-screen ones just burns ur nerves !

GrimyHR 2012-02-03 20:44

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
i would be satisfied if my n900 had just 512mb ram, a little bit better gpu(for instance mali 400 "dual core" with open source drivers) and maybe hw acc flash 11, dont need anything better than that to run maemo for the next 2-3 years...

teamer 2012-02-04 09:27

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimyHR (Post 1160116)
i would be satisfied if my n900 had just 512mb ram, a little bit better gpu(for instance mali 400 "dual core" with open source drivers) and maybe hw acc flash 11, dont need anything better than that to run maemo for the next 2-3 years...

a good battery is required for that ram and cpu ... i would like to use maemo for lets say ... till another thing like maemo comes up

GrimyHR 2012-02-04 09:57

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teamer (Post 1160289)
a good battery is required for that ram and cpu ... i would like to use maemo for lets say ... till another thing like maemo comes up

for the things i listed n900's battery is good enough, 1500mAh-1800mAh would be great but is not all that important, i always have my 4600mAh 130g external battery with me anyway...

Gky007 2012-02-04 10:21

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:eek::eek: 1500ghz :eek::eek:2GB RAM:eek::eek: how you imagine that ??? even its 1.5ghz and 1GB RAM is also a Dream with NOKIA tag.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

tanpoaran 2012-02-04 10:28

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
DREAM DREAM DREAM

maemo has died

gosh 2012-02-04 15:17

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tanpoaran (Post 1160329)
DREAM DREAM DREAM

maemo has died

It is hard to kill open source projects that has a user base

teamer 2012-02-04 15:19

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gosh (Post 1160444)
It is hard to kill open source projects that has a user base

Well ,,, maemo has ben abandoned by Nokia , but it's users are still active and not even willing to move to other platforms !

Maemo is freedom

marxian 2012-02-04 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gosh (Post 1160444)
It is hard to kill open source projects that has a user base

Not really. You can just stop making the phones. Who will be using Maemo5 in five years time? Most N900s will be landfill by then. Rules that apply to desktop projects don't really apply here.

gosh 2012-02-04 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1160476)
Not really. You can just stop making the phones. Who will be using Maemo5 in five years time? Most N900s will be landfill by then. Rules that apply to desktop projects don't really apply here.

I don't know if Nokia has something on the code that will stop others from making phones that can run the software. If they do then I think that Tizen will get a lot of angry customers from Nokia, these customers are very devoted and Samsung and IBM is getting a fast start.
QT is going to support Tizen and I think it just is a recompile and all apps får Maemo will work

tissot 2012-02-04 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gosh (Post 1160483)
I don't know if Nokia has something on the code that will stop others from making phones that can run the software. If they do then I think that Tizen will get a lot of angry customers from Nokia, these customers are very devoted and Samsung and IBM is getting a fast start.
QT is going to support Tizen and I think it just is a recompile and all apps får Maemo will work

I honestly can't believe how people think Tizen will move anywhere. There's even less of talk about Tizen than there was for Maemo 5.

That platform is dead before it was ever even born.


Quote:

Originally Posted by teamer (Post 1160289)
a good battery is required for that ram and cpu ... i would like to use maemo for lets say ... till another thing like maemo comes up

RAM yes, but you could get the battery life for that by just having newer SoC. N9 uses OMAP3630 with 1450mah battery, compared to 1320mah on N900 and N9 gets clearly better battery life.

That's even with the larger screen that is the component on these devices that will always take most of the battery.

gosh 2012-02-04 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1160492)
I honestly can't believe how people think Tizen will move anywhere. There's even less of talk about Tizen than there was for Maemo 5.

That platform is dead before it was ever even born.

Don't you think that all apps done for Maemo will be recompiled for Tizen and released there too?
I think that there is a huge demand for one open system based on C++ apps.

marxian 2012-02-04 19:33

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LOL@Tizen.

-Tyler- 2012-02-04 20:03

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
For those who miss so much a maemo system up to date must probe N9 having flash with open kernel without aegis, you can do everything that you want in terminal just the same way that you do in N900, the only problem is that N9 still lacks of applications, and there isn't a organizate system of repository like in maemo, but appart for that you have a true linux debian distro you can do what you want with it, and is surprising how fast and fluid everything goes even under heavy multitasking and the battery lasts more than twice the battery of N900.

So we have already a maemo=debian system up to date who is fast and battery last long, so what is the problem??

tzsm98 2012-02-04 20:11

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
I would like to see another Maemo5 device. I'd like to see it have:
  • 4 inch resistive touch screen
  • 1280 x 1024 resolution
  • OMAP 5432 @ 1850
  • 1 gig application ram
  • 64 gb emmc
  • microSDHC
  • mini-HDMI
  • micro USB OTG
  • quad band GSM + pentaband WCDMA + triband LTE
  • Bluetooth 3.0 w/ HID and all the usual profiles
  • wireless n + hotspot
  • 3.5 mm earphone jack
  • FM transmitter as enabled by the current Maem05 hack.
  • stereo speakers
  • N8's lens and camera
  • SVGA front camera that works for video call
  • Keyboard and screen tilt ala the HTC Touch Pro II + 5 way keypad
  • All the battery you can fit under a 4 inch display device
  • phone software that actually worked like this was a phone.
  • Java game support so we can fill it up with gamemobile.co.uk games as much as we want to.

gerbick 2012-02-04 20:26

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Wouldn't want another Maemo5 device. It'll be dated, unsupported and ultimately as closed in regards to what Nokia deems proprietary as before.

And nobody supported it outside of Nokia anyway.

tigas 2012-02-04 20:28

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Why resistive?
Why are you choosing 5:4 resolution when it should be 16:9 (1280x720)?
Why mini-HDMI when the way forward is clearly DLNA /Airplay?
Triband LTE? Do you want 4 hours of battery life?
FM transmitter? FM is going to die in 2015 (UK) 2017 (Norway and Germany)

No one will make another Maemo5 device. You can accept that fact and contribute to opening the Maemo6 device, which has *some* of the things you want. And has a brand new battery just off the factory line still with full designed capacity and an unbroken (for now) micro-USB port.

The N900 community has given that amazing device the care Nokia couldn't spare for it. But you're not getting a like-for-like replacement. "Mobile" split completely between tablets and phones.

pycage 2012-02-04 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by -Tyler- (Post 1160557)
and there isn't a organizate system of repository like in maemo

There is. It's called apps.formeego.org and is brought to you by the same people as the Maemo Extras repositories.
It's a Debian package repository. The big difference is that the Maemo autobuilder was replaced with OBS and the package promotion rules got improved.

gazza_d 2012-02-04 21:11

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Rather than looking back at the N900 and asking if Nokia can build a new improved version, which ain't gonna happen, should the community not be trying to port Meego/Nemo to a selection of Android devices. Presumably that is a lot easier to say than do though!

pycage 2012-02-04 21:15

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 1160592)
Rather than looking back at the N900 and asking if Nokia can build a new improved version, which ain't gonna happen, should the community not be trying to port Meego/Nemo to a selection of Android devices. Presumably that is a lot easier to say than do though!

Good point!

*booting Nemo on the WeTab*

tushyd 2012-02-04 21:16

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 1160592)
Rather than looking back at the N900 and asking if Nokia can build a new improved version, which ain't gonna happen, should the community not be trying to port Meego/Nemo to a selection of Android devices. Presumably that is a lot easier to say than do though!

Agreed. Maemo5 on the Galaxy S2 would certainly make me wet my pants.

ibrakalifa 2012-02-05 06:27

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
and N9 battery is unreplaceable, ah nokia always give a sh*t to their best product, =='

tonypower88 2012-02-05 07:46

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
this would be N900-2

misterc 2012-02-05 08:07

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by -Tyler- (Post 1160557)
For those who miss so much a maemo system up to date must probe N9 having flash with open kernel without aegis, you can do everything that you want in terminal just the same way that you do in N900, the only problem is that N9 still lacks of applications, and there isn't a organizate system of repository like in maemo, but appart for that you have a true linux debian distro you can do what you want with it, and is surprising how fast and fluid everything goes even under heavy multitasking and the battery lasts more than twice the battery of N900.

So we have already a maemo=debian system up to date who is fast and battery last long, so what is the problem??

lack of physical keyboard...

teamer 2012-02-05 08:19

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
I tried N9 and N950 , both are nothing compared to N900 (only a better hardware !)

jaripi 2012-02-05 08:19

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrakalifa (Post 1160700)
and N9 battery is unreplaceable, ah nokia always give a sh*t to their best product, =='

It does not really matter ... you can use external battery with the different capacities to fulfil your needs ...

jaripi 2012-02-05 08:20

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teamer (Post 1160720)
I tried N9 and N950 , both are nothing compared to N900 (only a better hardware !)

With full respect for your comment, I would not change my N9 to N900 ... :)

F2thaK 2012-02-05 08:58

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
LOL

10chars

GrimyHR 2012-02-05 09:57

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tigas (Post 1160567)
Why resistive? because its better
Why are you choosing 5:4 resolution when it should be 16:9 (1280x720)? because 720p is too low for a decent vertical resolution
Why mini-HDMI when the way forward is clearly DLNA /Airplay? most of the world has hdmi on their hd tv so dont talk rubish
Triband LTE? Do you want 4 hours of battery life?
FM transmitter? FM is going to die in 2015 (UK) 2017 (Norway and Germany) what has this got to do with my phone TRANSMITTING FM signal?

No one will make another Maemo5 device. You can accept that fact and contribute to opening the Maemo6 device, which has *some* of the things you want. And has a brand new battery just off the factory line still with full designed capacity and an unbroken (for now) micro-USB port. that device is crap when compared to n900 :p

The N900 community has given that amazing device the care Nokia couldn't spare for it. But you're not getting a like-for-like replacement. "Mobile" split completely between tablets and phones.

ten chars!

santiago 2012-02-05 10:59

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
YEs, YES, Yes! i want one too

ibrakalifa 2012-02-05 11:40

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaripi (Post 1160721)
It does not really matter ... you can use external battery with the different capacities to fulfil your needs ...

not really matter?? are you kidding me??, who will guaranteee ur internal battery will last forever??:D

ossipena 2012-02-05 12:40

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Iktwo (Post 1159559)
..... MAEMO 5!

Everyone would love it..

good joke :D I am not missing my N900 at all after I got N950. Haven't even opened the kb for months now...

gazza_d 2012-02-05 13:04

Re: NOKIA we need a new MAEMO5 device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1160806)
good joke :D I am not missing my N900 at all after I got N950. Haven't even opened the kb for months now...

That'll do - NOKIA can we have N950s please?

Bet there is still a couple warehouses full of the things...

GrimyHR 2012-02-05 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1160806)
good joke :D I am not missing my N900 at all after I got N950. Haven't even opened the kb for months now...

coming from someone praising the WP this is worthless :p
this may be ad hominem but you showed your OS preference here so anything you say about maemo can not be considered seriously :p


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