N9 Conversation Backup
 

Hey Guys!

I'm new here so please go easy on me :)

I'm currently using the N9 and love it. One problem im having is absolutely killing me. I am trying to backup a conversation to my PC in a readable format but cant find a way how...

On my N900 I opened Ovi Suite, synced my messages and just screenshot what was required which worked perfectly. Only problem is, N9 isn't compatible with Ovi Suite :(

There are over 10,000 messages in this conversation and I cannot afford to lose this as my N900 would wipe all conversations once they reach a certain size is reached.

Pleaseeee help :(

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Read this one to use Nokia Suite: http://everythingn9.com/how-to-get-y...suite-3-2-100/

... and your message back up file (zip) is in .backups folder (if you have done it by your N9 through settings - backup) ...

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What are my options once I do backup and open the zip file?
What extension is it and can I open it for reading?

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simply sync with nokia suite from the above link. it'll copy over all your conversations. the downside is that while the messages are sorted according to recipent the recipent's name isn't always visible but simply the number only is visible.

hope someone comes up with an immediate backup to a specified email address like on blackberry.

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I managed to get my messages into Ovi Suite using the below tip. One problem though, all the messages in the conversation appear on the left hand side and say they came from the other person, even my messages to them. I need to find out how to make it appear as the conversation with mine on the left, im so close to getting there :(

PS. After the initial sync it was only showing the number but after 5 minutes it showed the contact name so I was cheering! I just need to find a way to separate the messages :(


Here's how I done it:

"For those seeking an easier way to sync contacts and calendars using Outlook without going through the cloud (ie, using gmail as a MFE server), then I have stumbled across a solution that works.

Ovi Suite 3.0.0.290 will recognise and sync with the N9. It works. You can then upgrade to the current Ovi Suite and it will continue to work – but only if you have created the sync under the 3.0.0.290 version.

Steps:
- When you are installing 3.0.0.290, turn off internet connections otherwise Ovi Suite will automatically upgrade before installing
- Once installed, turnoff auto-update software (for now) and plug your handset in. It will recognise, install drivers, and say it is ready
- Confirm your sync settings, and press sync.
- You can then go back online and agree to update your Ovi Suite to the current release"

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Ovi suite v.3.3.86 or whatever works with the N9?

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I was told that only that version of Ovi Suite (3.0.0.290) works with the N9??

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I am currently on version 3.2.100 of Nokia Suite... if you haven't already download it from here:

http://everythingn9.com/how-to-get-y...suite-3-2-100/

Follow that to a T and you'll have your Nokia N9 syncing with the previous version of Nokia Suite...

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Ill give it a go now! I already have 3.0.0.290 installed so I will try upgrade to the 3.2.100 version and hopefully that will sort out the conversation separation.

If it doesn't, is there a way to delete what messages have been synced in Ovi and then re sync them in the new version?

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WOHOOOOO!
The 3.2.100 version separated the messages and now im in the process of screenshot'ing the conversation page by page, what a pain in the *****!

I was hoping there was a way I could export the whole thing as a massive word document or something like that lol

Only problem is, MMS dont appear in the conversation so I have to scroll up for 45 mins to get to the top of the conversation and scroll through looking for pictures :(

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Just read this one too - it might help you to have an idea: http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...ht/true#M29481

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interestingly enough, i was just trying to figure out how to minimally back it up with a terminal over ssh, and found immense success.

after some testing, all you need is '/home/user/.cache/tracker/'!
{and /home/user/.local/share/data/libqtcontacts-tracker/photos for contact pix}
this is contacts and conversations and recent calls.

i backed it up {carefully record the perms and users}, then reflashed to factory default + openkernel {firmware, emmc, openkernel}. i then copied it back, set the perms, rsync'd it again to make sure it didnt change, then rebooted. when it booted back, everything was there.

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I think that it is too complicated for a general purpose (laugh) ... but I did not even think that it could be done like that ...

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while i agree this solution is not for everyone, its surprisingly simple. you just copy that dir out, and youre done. restoring it is copying it back and immediately rebooting. only caveat is thta it may take a few tries to restore; the backing up is easy and can be automated.

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I just wish there was a way to export the entire conversation into a word documents as it is, would have been a DREAM come true lol

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this is easy enough to do, if you are comfortable running commands in a terminal. i got mine working, anyway. {last week, i transferred my old n900's 7000 text messages to my n9. ive gotten only a few texts since, but all 7000 of the old ones came out alright.}

you can do it with meego-terminal on the phone, but it would be much easier to do on a faster desktop or laptop.

do you only need to do this once, or do you need to do this at intervals every so often {like, once a month}?

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I would probably only need to do it once!
In saying that, once I have "run these commands":

- What is the risk of it corrupting my phone/conversations?
- What are the risks in general?
- How will I be opening/accessing the extracted conversation once I have taken it off my phone?

Thanks :)

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first, let me say, if this sounds mysterious and hard, dont do it.
that being said, it is relatively easy and about as safe as anything you can do as root can be.

the only interaction you need to have with your phone is copying a single file off your phone {the message db}. once the file is copied from your phone, you would do everything on the linux computer.

so there are really no risks to your phone or conversations, unless you make a strange typo or something.

still, i recommend you use the built-in backup thing {Settings -> Sync&Backup -> Backup} before doing ANYTHING EVER.


so, you can copy the file n9=>pc easily, in two steps.
first, copy it to your MyDocs folder using the phone's terminal.
second, connect the phone to a computer and use the Mass Storage to copy it off.


step #1
requires root permissions, so be careful. if it works, there is no output.
in meego-terminal, type:
note: if it says 'Permission denied' while youre doing this, there is no way for you to copy the file without going through enormous pain {installing an openkernel}. you do not want to do that.

if you dont know how to get a terminal, look elsewhere on the forum.

step #2
when you connect the phone via usb and do mass storage, meta.db should simply be there for you to copy off like you would a music file.


once its off, you have the full database. you can manipulate it on the computer with no risks to damaging the data on your phone. you could, for instance, convert it several times, and store a pdf ordered by time, another pdf ordered by person, and a text file of just the conversations. the nice thing is that once you have this file, you could convert it LATER; the data is safe.

however, the db is extremely complicated, and there is no documentation for how its set up {as far as i know}. i guessed. ill give you my script, but what worked for me may not work for you. SOMETHING will work for you eventually, and the important thing is just to get the source data off the phone before your worst fears come true.

here is what my final output looks like {my friend and me, numbers changed to 5s and 2s}:

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Wow!, thank you for such a detailed response!
I forgot how to access the terminal on the N9, having a really blonde day today lol

Also, once it has been formatted as you have included below, does that include both party's messages and PXT messages?

Sorry for the thousand questions, really appreciate the help!

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no problem. i may have missed the boat, though; i have no idea what PXT messages are. i only have SMS messages working {sent and received}, nothing else; if you meant something else, sorry! i think that IMs and MMS also get funneled through here, but i havent explored the layout for them.

{also stored in this DB is every file you have ever touched on the phone, album art, email account information, instruction manuals and text, and a billion other things that REALLY shouldnt be. be careful sharing this file!}

now, as to formatting the db, you will need sqlite3 and, if you wanna run my script, perl. do not assume that my script will work; it is a hack, and must be a hack, because there is no documentation to work from.

to get a terminal, enable dev mode in settings->security. it will reboot automatically and terminal will be at the bottom. when youre done copying the file to MyDocs, you can turn off dev mode.

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Well it seems that yu *can* access the tracker dir without using inception and opensh.
I just read on another post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=36 that you can type and the dir appears. I tried and it worked. Full access to everything!!