nokia should wake up and use N9 as flagship
 

just looking at some user reviews of the N9 on Amazon, people find the telephone incredible and intuitive to use and it makes Iphone and Android seem cumbersome and primitive.

The reviews range from amazing to fantastic, often because of how the OS works, and its great multitasking and ease of use. In addition people like the look and feel of the telephone and OS.

Nokia is really sleepwalking and miserably failing if the N9 is not fully markeded and fully made available in all markets as their flagship and pride.

I dont own the N9 myself and will not get one since it lacks things like hardware keyboard, stylus and microsd slot. I have N900. The N950 on the other hand I would give a LOT for, especially if it came with a stylus and multiboot between Meego and Linux/GNU/Maemo 6 with QT.

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I won't burst your bubble so you can keep dreaming of the N9 being used as a flagship....

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it is the best Nokia phone on the market. thanks for your consideration btw.

My dream is not the N9, but the N950 v2.

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Here's the deal, let's talk flagships... If the Nokia N9 had the best of the best of what Nokia had to offer it would be considered a flagship. Sadly it is not. The N950 would be considered more of a flagship than the Nokia N9.

Nokia mistakenly stumbled upon the idea of a flagship with the Nokia N95, since then it hasn't really been in flagship territory because it has been busy fragmenting all of it's phone's for all users. Instead of an N8, E7, C7, E6, and N9, Nokia should have released the N950 with better internal hardware and a Xenon Flash with Meego-Harmattan and call that their flagship. Now imagine (for the moment we're just day dreaming) that they had put a 1.5 ghz dual core processor with the 1 gb of ram and had numbers that would far outweigh the Iphone. What if instead of 20 different kinds of phones they had just 1, all with hardware keyboard. Are you telling me the N950 with better specs couldn't compete with the Iphone 4s? Heck they could have priced it at $999.99 unlocked and if the specs were better than the Iphone it would have sold. (I'm using the Iphone because it currently dominates the market)

Nokia's biggest problem was instead of doing everything right with 1 product they were busy fragmenting themselves with so many different products that no one could keep up.

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honestly nokia is sleeping and theyre unable to wake up atm

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Yes.

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Interesting idea. Actually the N950 with the HW keyboard is not the product most of the market at these day wants, so the N9 as the "mass" phone would have been needed anyway, but I agree, that instead of making 20 similar (crappy) phones, they should've concentrate on a 2 - 3 perfect hi-tech products and 2 - 3 budget phones, for the eastern markets. Well, whatever. Go and get a spare N9, till they got 'em :)

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oh, holly sh*t, now Nokia would read your post and change their mind! Stop spaming, there are thousands same "Nokia should...", "the best for Nokia ..." threds, just post there or write it to your blogs, stop trashing TMO, coz of your stupid posts it's hard to see the good ones.

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The N950 could have been the "business" model, as someone mentioned in another thread, a "communicator" device aimed at managers, executives etc. You know, Nokia's high mark-up market segment that previously bought devices like the E7, E90 or 9500 Communicator. Just add some business software onto it and together with utilizing Linux' security model would have been the perfect model to market to the business segment.

One could even imagine a Nokia branded business ecosystem around these devices. The fact that the OS is mostly open source doesn't mean people can't make money from closed or pay-to-use business software if made and marketed well.

It's a pity Nokia's been bullied into having no "Plan B".

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the n9 needs the n8's camera, better video playback to even be considered a flagship.

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Camera hardware is excellent. Camera software is not that good.
Video playback can be improved with a small update and that's it.


Elop hates Symbian and MeeGo. He's a Microsoft kid, he took $2 billion and he can do whatever he want. He is the boss.
But AFAIK, he got ****ed up from N9. His favorite phoneshit is outsold by N9, badly.


I mean, let's make it this way. N9 without any kind of marketing, it wasn't sold in major markets, phone which was dead before sales started - overshot 1.5 milion sales. 2 Lumias (710 and 800) with the best marketing in Nokia's history - just 600 000 units.
Who's crazy? Who should be dead? MeeGo or Elop?

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until I see hard, concrete number stating the N9 outsold the Lumia line, we're speculating and talking from our arses. Same goes for that bitter dude that left Nokia after the Elopacolypse.

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Why not put all functions into one phone, so everyone gets what they want like the Iphone model?

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That's a myth / urban legend. U'd be surprised to know the quantities of 'high-end' phones the 'eastern market/s consume!

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No, that's not just speculation. Nobody knows exactly, we are talking about that sales gap.

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Not necessarily.
There r many who'd never buy a phone with a HKB. They don't need a KB jutting out from their devices... making it unnecessarily bulky and prone to disfigurement. We r pretty happy with a VKB... it solves our purpose.

Similarly there would many who'd desire otherwise. Their usage preferences might call for a phone with HKB. I'd opine that the masses would be divided, with a tad bending towards a non-HKB model. Which is why most phones aren't made that way.

However, the wisest idea would have been to maintain both... and let the users decide. Thus, two variants of the same device - a N9 & a N950 going concurrently, with similar specs could be a better KSP.

Sad, Eflop and [regretfully] the Nokia BoD thought otherwise...

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The hardware keyboard doesn't matter to me, I am more referring to the 12mp camera and the 4 inch tft lcd, the hardware keyboard is pretty useless to me, but I'm sure others will find a use for it....

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No but this guy will

http://i.imgur.com/Ajn8u.jpg

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Canalys released its full, detailed Q4 2011, REPORT on Feb-3, 2012. This document is a must read - especially b'coz it clarifies that for the first time in history "Smartphones outsold PCs, laptops & Tablets". However, that paper also contradicted the public opinion of WP-phones & Meego-devices sales -- stating the WPs sold 1.2 million while the Meegos sold 600K units. Below's the extract:

Could they have possibly slipped up the names?

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Nice one there...
Pulling the plug !

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OMG Nokia needs to build a phone with i7 3,4Ghz, 8 GB of Ram, and solar panels instead of battery. Relax with the HW wet dreams guys the N9 is what it is it's not gonna change and probably has no future but I love it and will use it for as long as it is usable.

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I have an N9 but i am going to say Lumia 900 is the best nokia phone, in less than a month.

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camera hardware is Ok. whooo cares about video playback.


they reported it was only 500mil last qtr.

there is no evidence of these numbers, its pure garbage. but i am 99% sure n9 didnt outsell wp7 phones.

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how more threads for these kind of topics dude's ? there are already thread for posting such things. beside creating threads just post your questions of suggestions in other same kind of threads. HERE is one and HERE is another. creating threads with these topics in TMO wont change a bit.

everyone knows that as long as Elop is CEO this is never going to happen. but it will get worst. So please stop filling TMO with these threads.

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i didnt say it, but a hardware keyboard is so handy when driving. VKBs require too much focus and error prone. i been considering the E7 after getting the N9, but evrytime i watch a youtube video of symbian web browsing, i run and have circular thoughts of owning tha n950 :rolleyes:
off to youtube to see if someone posted some belle videos on e7.

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That's nuts! Why not use n900 as a flagship device 2012. Are you crazy?

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One possibility to have only one smartphone in your portfolio and still make HWKBD-fans and non-fans happy would be to make a phone without a keyboard but with some sort of docking port that doubles as a hinge. The keyboard could then be sold as a separate unit turning the phone into a "folder" instead of a slider. Since there wouldn't be much intelligence needed in the keyboard unit it could be very thin and since you don't need the overlapping part a slider needs you could use the whole whole space for a decent keyboard (let's say 5 rows).

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As long as Nokia is too ashamed to give actual figures for Lumia and N9 sold we can speculate that N9 outsold Lumia.

Even if it is true that N9 sold 600,000 as opposed to Lumia's 1.2 million this is already a stunning achievement for a phone which is banned from all major markets, declared a dead os by the CEO himself, priced stiffly and is given little promotion in contrast to Lumia which has been given the most extensive promotion in Nokia history, deep subsidies with carrier contracts, free xbox in U.K., etc. How many will N9 sell if it is given proper treatment by Nokia? Isn't Elop ashamed for trying to beat down Nokia's home grown os in favour of an external one?

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That would be....intelligent?

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Very well said!

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The E7 is a wonderful phone on Belle, although I can't see who in their right mind would choose the stock browser over Opera Mini or Opera Mobile which I think take some beating.

The E7 is my second favourite phone after the N9, and I couldn't get rid of mine, especially since Belle.

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nokia screw big time...

I had Nokia N900
and it's hard to leave one phone to another specially when the OS changes..
I learn that Maemo is maemo and Symbian is Symbian..
do not compare phones with diferent OS of the same brand!
when I got the N8 to replace my N900..i was so happy in the begginig because of the HDMI port and 12MP.. but later found out with the lack of keyboard that it wasnt as good and responsive that the previous one.. decided to get the E7 mostly because of the keyboard..a must have.. thinking that it would take me back to the n900 even thought had diferent OS.. but it wasn't that close! Even with Anna and Belle...

all this put me to a place that I didn't understand why to have a 12mp phone you can't have a keyboard.... why with a keyboard you can't have FMtransmissor or a 12MP.. all this was soo stupid!!
NOKIA WAS DOING TOO MUCH CRAZY THINGS..

It was better to change their strategy;
buying a phone should be like this:
Choose camera MP: 5, 8, 12...
Choose OS: ... Symbian ... Maemo...WP
Choose Memory: 16..32..64..gb
keyboard: Y / N
and soo on..
a few basic hardware characteristic you could choose on a phone that you gona be willing to pay $499-699 usd because it's yours.. it's what you want, what you built!
i think it would had be a good move... at least buyers like us who love nokia phones.. would always continue to have nokia phones and happy with what we get...

now look today with symbian out and maemo out.. we are willing to buy those ultra expensive phones because they are unique.. it's not even what we dream of.. it's just the closest to what we wished for.

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N9 needs just better software for cam, specially for automatic settings ... and better decoders for video playback ... that's all - hardware is OK, but software is still unmatured and unoptimized ... let's hope that we can see the such improvements in PR 1.2 and more in PR 1.3 ...

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I don't think so.

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thread name should be "nokia should wake up and fire Elop". believe it or not as long as Elop is CEO, Symbian and MeeGo will be considered as dead OS's by Nokia. There are even rumors that Nokia will make only one device i.e N8 successor after that NO SYMBIAN DEVICES. i really pray that Nokia should wake up soon before its too late.

Have you people read the article in which one Nokia exec says that there is no plan B. If WP fails then Nokia also will fail.

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I'm sure it is against the forum rules to make this choice. And I don't want to get banned. :rolleyes:

The N9 is a mass-market phone that was sold overpriced to fleece those that liked it. Unfortunately, any money Nokia made on the N9 is going into WP7, not follow-ups to the N9. Nokia is as over to me today as it was June 1st 2011 before it had shown the N9, "frankly my dear I don't give a damn"; they just need to support the N9 while the law requires them to do, which is two years in Europe.

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Pardon my naivety, which law r we talking about?

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When you're driving that is what you should be doing - not creating potential accidents by fiddling with your phone.