Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Hi,

I want to buy a new phone, i didn't choose between Samsung galaxy S2 and N9..

I own a N900, i am find its a very good phone thanks to maemo community work.

I think N9 is a good phone, but i am little bit afraid by the application missing.

I didn't achieve to know how many apps are existing for N9 ?

Is a list of available exists ?

On N900, i mainly use next apps or features :

- gpodder
- MMS
- RSS Feed
- multimedia player (video & audio, is equalizer exits on N9 version)
- faircrack / cleven
- skype call (audio & video call)
- mail (i found the N900 very bad)
- web browsing with flash player
- kmplayer (mms stream)

Please, can N9 owners tell me if equivalent apps are existing on N9 device ?

Thanks a lot for helping me.

Best Regards

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Well, if you didn't notice/care about lack of apps on N900, you won't notice it on N9 too. In fact, it's -imho- in a much better state than N900 once was. See my-meego.com, it's a pretty good source to check new apps.

- Gpodder: already ported and pretty good, looks much better than N900 one.
- MMS: built-in
- RSS Feed: Built-in. Also you can get a Google Reader client from Store.
- Multimedia player: Huh? Do you ask for an alternative? (obviously it has a built-in player) Anyway, yes there are some alternatives, but no, none of them support equalizer yet.
- Faircrack & Cleven: afaik not yet, but I guess they'll come soon
- Skype call: Audio possible. Video not yet (maybe never)
- Mail: Works pretty good, but lacks some features such as flagging
- Web browser works pretty good, it's very fast, but lacks flash player.
- kmplayer: dunno.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

the ones i will miss is the faircrack, i am willing to donate if someone put in some effort porting faircrack to n9.

you need to think in other way, N9 is the most sexist design phone and has the very unique swipe ui, n9 has much better map and navigation support than n900, has love from ebuddyxms and some love from nokia beta labs(nokia internent radio, nokia city scene, etc)

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I guess It may not be possible to get Faircrack/Cleven work on N9 without open-mode kernel, since -again, I "guess"- Aegis wouldn't allow that kind of changes on kernel modules.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

I say Droid4.

Have using galaxy note and n9 as my main phones atm. But I want a keyboard.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

N9 lack of flash player, if you want more app go for sgs2, if you wanna be different take ur N9, remember when first time N900 come, its not thats good till this community do excelent job, at least its ur choice. long live maemo, we are abandoned, but we have our own world, its freedom!! cheers

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

lack of flash player on n9 wont be a big problem since n9 support html5, i use flash mainly for video streaming, to me cutetube can be a replacement of flash.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

html5 needs atleast 3 years to be able show tv around the world, plus n9 can't play HD but its a great phone.

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actually i still confuse too, which should i buy, LOL

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It does have Kmplayer ported to it (check FMC.) I guess it works too as I installed mplayer and that and now my Orb feeds work so I can still watch live TV on the go.
Like said, pretty much everything else on your list is there (and I think the mail client is worlds better than the N900s Modest) and the only thing that isn't is faircrack/cleven but that's being held up by needing to get around Aegis for it to work. AFAIK, devs are getting around Aegis with open mode but I'm not sure a new kernel has been developed yet for cleven, etc.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Hi Everybody,

Thanks for you response.

No flash support, then i suppose i can't watch live streaming like that :

http://fr.twitch.tv/liquidjinro ????

I understood that HTML5 will be the futur but not very use yet.

I forgot, the GPS usage is an important point. For this point, i know that the N9 ovi maps is great and free.

I consider the WEP cracking as a nice to have.

What about the battery life ? If you compare with N900, it's better or worst ?

I am looking for N9 prices on european website, do you know which website offers loweest prices ?

Thanks a lot.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

YMMV but I think it's far better on the N9. With the N900 is was lucky when I returned home with about 30% left on a working day. With the N9, it sometimes return home with about 70% left.
But it really depends on what you're doing. Websurfing is really demanding on the battery.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Hi thanks,

I will do the same usage as my N900.

Multimedia playing (audio / video) during subway transport time.
Mail & RSS retrieving along the day.
But if the battery life is better that N900 it's a god point.
I suppose it depends to battery age.

Best regards

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

With just music playing, mail and rss you should get really long battery life time.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

What's your opinion about the screen being a pentile screen. I mean how much do you notice it on everyday use. I know it's mostly visible on white backgrounds.
I'm thinking very heavily on swapping my 4S for a N9, the only thing I think I'll mis is the screen res and the crispiness of the ritina screen and that is the only thing making me think twice.
Ohh maybe also Endomondo and Wordfeud.
By the way can you stream internet radio through the native musicplayer?

Regards Dousan...

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

This is not really useful answer, but if you need to ask "Should i buy a N9", then don't. Just saying...

Disclaimer: I own and use N900 and N9. I need a hybrid of those two with some contemporary hardware inside.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

and do n9 wlan drivers support packet injection? i dont think so...

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

The music player I developed, SigmaPlayer, has 10-bands equalizer.

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I would wait till pr1.2. Then decide if all features are there. The current N9 sucks big time

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I don't really notice it much in everyday use. The colour brilliance and the true black easily make up for it. Of course if you hold the screen 10cm before your eyes you notice the pentile, but you usually don't do that.
After having used AMOLED, all those LCD phone screens look like crap to me.

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I second that.

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Great !

Thanks for your work

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

PR1.2 is out in two weeks and the N9 is quite capable to stand on it's own as it is now imo.
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Anyway I'd always choose the N9 over every other phone because this is one of a kind. Since Elop killed Nokia's MeeGo efforts there won't be another MeeGo phone from Nokia.

As for Android, well you buy your SGS2 and in two months time 20 new Android phones just appeared on the market without any significant differences. What I'm saying is the you won't miss much if you skip an Android phone now, it would only get one update anyway, and you can always buy one later. You won't be able to buy an N9 once it's out of production.

Same applies for WP7. You used one, then you pretty much used them all.

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I totally agree with this statement, N9 is for me THE PHONE !.

Development still growing for this beauty, but then again its good to make a difference even its not perfect all the time (yet) regarding apps

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

I am aware of that and I use N9 as my main device, it still sucks. Even the email client is not able to reliable show you contents of your IMAP mailbox nor delete/move an email. If you want to N9 for playing with linux enabled device, it is OK, if you want to use it, wait till all relevant bugs get fixed.

As I have already stated above, if you need to ask if you should buy N9, then do not buy it.
It needs polish to be reliable enough to use it. The N9 team in Finland is doing miracles (yes, they really do!), but unfortunately not fast enough.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

You can delete or move email (I'm uding gmail) if you want and it's very easy. Don't know about IMAP though.

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Hmmm... I have been using the N9 for the past 3 months and with PR1.1 I find it very usable more so than most Android phones I have used in the past! I also have had friends who are android users comment on how responsive the OS is. I also have no problem with gmail or hotmail reading and deleting messages from both on a daily basis on my N9...

I will readily agree that is lacking a bit of polish BUT remember it took Android until (really) 2.2 to be decent (1.5/1.6 to have a virtual keyboard which is nowhere near as good as the N9's) and even at that the way to make it perform is throw more and more hardware at it - I tried a SE Xperia X10 a while back and even with custom ROMs it was slow as molasses. It took the iPhone several versions to get apps and copy and paste etc and apple is still adding core to it, heck notifications only became servicable in iOS 5... These things take time, time selop was not prepared to wait for so its now a dead platform - which is very unfortunate...

The N9 is a great device, the deciding factors really are:
1) Do you require XYZ application for daily use of you device?
If Yes then the N9 is likely not for you as while some of the apps are good they are limited...

2) Does it bother you to sink ~$500+ into a dead operating system?
If Yes then go get a Google Nexus, iPhone or WP7 device as they will continually get updates - however get a non-google android device and good luck with updates. Yes the N9 is going to get some updates from Nokia PR1.2 & PR1.3 are known and are on their way, but how long this support will last is unknown

3) Do you like being unique (silly but)?
If you buy an N9 you are likely joining a very limited number of people who also use this device, sort of an "elite" group I guess...

4) Did you own an N900 and did you enjoy it?
I am not a developer but I enjoyed my time with the N900, so much so that I still have it and cannot decide whether I want to part with it or not...

5) Do you like to Multi-Task?
If Yes then the N9 has one of the best, smoothest, slickest implementation of multi-tasking implemented on any device out there right now by a very large Margin!

It is an awesome device which I am hoping is only going to get better with the upcoming releases of PR1.2, PR1.3 and whatever else Nokia may have in store for us...

Yes I am very happy with my N9...

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

I have weakness towards N9, despite it really not being a full fledged device. Both a cyan and gave it away, but somehow itched to get another one and just got the white one. Beautiful, but sucks compared to other phones. Will wait till pr1.2 to see if truly improved. Given Nokia record on much promise but little delivery and lack of cohesive strategy and only 3 people still working on harmattan, I dont expect much. Will likely pass it on to my offspring.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Where do you get that number from? I know for a fact that's not accurate at all.

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stay cool, maybe only 3 thats left, but this community will be doing better like whats happened to N900, :)

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Anyone know where to get a legit nokia n9 in the states?

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Buy one from an importer or hop on a plane or boat yourself.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

try amazon.com, there are a few sellers on there selling it for around $500... Thats where I got mine from...

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Not sure about that. They still have the N900 to play with, and do not see the N9 as a followup. N9 is not a mini-desktop/communicator, it's a mobile phone, and it does not have a keyboard, especially.

The fact that the hardware inside the N9 is not that big of a jump from the N900 makes it even harder for developers to jump. And there's the platform security on the N9 getting in the way of some developers, and not just for ideological reasons.

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Many websites I use are still using flash, might take some months if not a year or 2 to change to html5.
So, it really depends on what website you have to visit.
And even many blog sites I visit that have video embeded to youtube and try to play the video usually do not work on N9.
I think missing Flash support is a quite big omission if it's supposed to compete with other OS (but considering the platform is dropped, I'm not surprised about this)

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

I'll keep my N900 as my main phone until I can find a good replacement with psychical keyboard.
Maybe a keyboard for the N9 would be released.

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

i'm thinking of getting a magenta N9 too, for my significant other. i've compared it with various samsung galaxys and it has eventually come down to a standoff between the N9 and the S2.

the S2 costs about 50% more than the N9 (16GB) where i come from. the main differences for that amount of money are the slightly bigger screen and the dual core 1.2GHz vs the single core 1GHz. other less important differences include microSD (never had one and don't think i'll ever need one), USB OTG (keeping my fingers crossed on the N9), and Flash support (maybe this one is kinda important, is there Flash for Firefox?).

and for Android, i know i'll have Google Maps, whereas for N900, i have Mappero and eCoach (which gives a pretty accurate GPS fix, surprisingly). now the question is, are Maps and Drive on the N9 as good as those? or are they as bad as Maps on the N900?

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

Hi,

I found a buyer for my N900.

I think i will buy N9 64 GB.

What do you think between 16Gb and 64 Gb ?

16 GB is only for data, or apps + data ?

about the isseu of embedded youtube vid in blogs. Just press the youtube logo in the embedded player then refresh the new window that opens and then u can play it in built in media player:)

Re: Should i buy a N9 ?
 

are you crazy? The n9 is no replacement for the n900 ;)