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Hambert 2012-02-27 22:38

Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
I'm sorry but i had to do a thread for this. So, where is it? Has anybody found any option? It said at the update notification it will be there after the PR 1.2 update, but i can't find it!

This is driving me crazy, it can't be such a shame!

Rockenroller 2012-02-27 23:46

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
me too.. Still thinking... How it could work?

shmerl 2012-02-28 00:01

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
No XMPP/Jingle it seems. No news from Peregrine client as well.

lavo 2012-02-28 00:05

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
I thought it said in the blurb for the updates over the last few months that there is *support* for video calling. Taken from the view of a developer, this would mean that there are hooks available in this update to use the front camera (plus other things) to make *your* video call app work. I've never read it that a video calling app is in this update. If it did, I'm sure Nokia would have named the app, or at the very least named which video calling service it would use.

shmerl 2012-02-28 00:09

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Video calling service was there all along - XMPP/Jingle. To be precise it's not a service, and it's built on P2P mechanism for the video connection, but initial communication goes through XMPP.

shmerl 2012-02-28 00:10

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Harmattan ships with libfarsight, so the only question is, how the camera is supported, what codecs are used etc.

Hambert 2012-02-28 00:43

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Many of my friends have 3G video calling. A time ago after buying my N9 i show them my phone and one of the first things they noticed was the front camera, and then i had to admit there was no videocall at all, just a little mirror app. After that, they started calling eachother to test their cameras, almost laughing at me who having the most expensive phone i couldn't do a simple 3G videocall.

I told them this update would be out soon, and now this happened. I don't want any Skype, Gtalk, or Facebook videoconference, JUST THE STANDARD 3G VIDEOCALL FOR GOD'S SAKE :mad:

Edit: I don't think Nokia posted it in the changelog just for letting the devs know about the new possibilities, THIS IS A CONSUMER DEVICE, NOT THE N950! A normal person would expect the final videocalling update, as i did.

youmeego 2012-02-28 01:42

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
sueing them rather than writing diatribe against rotten nokia management and strategy.

Maemomd 2012-02-28 01:51

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
It's a shame, the N900 was the first skype video calling phone. Amazing, I used it so much, too bad it's not on my N9.

theseum 2012-02-28 02:35

forgive me for my ignorence but are there any docs on the farsight integration?

jalyst 2012-02-28 02:37

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Already a thread for this: N9 video chat: Nokia-derived XMPP/Jingle(Gtalk) or Skype, & 3rd-party options
There was never ever going to be 3G video-call, that was always made clear, it was always XMPP/Jingle or Skype.

theseum 2012-02-28 02:38

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hambert (Post 1171057)
I told them this update would be out soon, and now this happened. I don't want any Skype, Gtalk, or Facebook videoconference, JUST THE STANDARD 3G VIDEOCALL FOR GOD'S SAKE :mad:

As a US user.... WHAT ON EARTH IS 3G VIDEO CALL? JUST THE XMPP FOR GOD'S SAKE!! ;)

DarkSkies 2012-02-28 02:45

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hambert (Post 1171057)
Many of my friends have 3G video calling. A time ago after buying my N9 i show them my phone and one of the first things they noticed was the front camera, and then i had to admit there was no videocall at all, just a little mirror app. After that, they started calling eachother to test their cameras, almost laughing at me who having the most expensive phone i couldn't do a simple 3G videocall.

And you got upset and possibly depressed. Oh my! How old are you again? 3G video talks would be welcome, but let's face it, it's just a fancy future. I would be useless for regular phone use anyway.

Hambert 2012-02-28 03:24

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSkies (Post 1171112)
And you got upset and possibly depressed. Oh my! How old are you again? 3G video talks would be welcome, but let's face it, it's just a fancy future. I would be useless for regular phone use anyway.

I didn't get depressed. My wallet did. After expending the amount of money this phone costs, I would expect at least the basic features. And i say basic, because the first time i ever heard about 3G everybody was announcing videocalling as the new feature made massively possible. I've never had the chance to have a phone with videocalling (i was looking forward to test it with my N9), so i can't say if it's useful or not.

So that's it, i don't have money to throw away, and i'm old enough to realise about that. So yes, we can say i get a little bit depressed.

Now getting back on topic, we all know Nokia announced today "videocall support" during the PR 1.2 update. Anyone knows if there is any new feature at all? I mean for devs, final users, or whatever. I just want to know what that point in the changelog stands for.

efion 2012-02-28 06:53

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSkies (Post 1171112)
And you got upset and possibly depressed. Oh my! How old are you again? 3G video talks would be welcome, but let's face it, it's just a fancy future. I would be useless for regular phone use anyway.

i'm old enough to use vidcall.
i was using it on my 5230,X6,5800,N8.
i'm a traveler worker,so i need it to see my lovely wife and all my children,it's not about age,it's about need.

Hacker 2012-02-28 07:19

Re: Where's the DA#% videocall??
 
Well, if lack of key videocalling codecs has been delaying Peregrine development of this feature, then the wait may not be long. Let's give the 1.2 update a chance to get out there to devs and see what happens. Peregrine is certainly planning on adding videocalling, last I heard.


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