New Phone Help... I can't do it any longer...
 

Hey guys, I am going to have to put my Nokia N900 to rest pretty soon. It just isn't working out for me anymore (I am sure a lot of you guys understand, the N900 will always hold a very special place in my heart).

When the first iPhone came out I purchased it, and returned it 4 days later. I am NOT an Apple fan. But I am having some problems...

This is what I would love:

-Dual core @ 1GHz (let's be honest, quad core phones are going to be out by Q4)
-Android 4.0
-Full QWERTY
-Resolution & Camera as good as iPhone 4S

However I don't think there is such a beast out there, let alone coming ANYTIME SOON. So when looking at competitors the iPhone 4S wins over the Samsung Galaxy S II (Gingerbread still) in terms of camera quality, screen resolution, and newer OS. And I will be honest - I have plaid around with Siri and it could quite possibly make up for the lack of a psychical keyboard, to an extent.

Also with the new iCloud I don't have to deal with crappy iTunes (to the best of my understanding). And let's be honest - it will be "jailbroken" before I even use it.

Am I missing something? I need to upgrade, the N900 is just not fast enough, camera quality is not there, and since I have AT&T I am always using 2.5G (that's how much I loved you N900!)

I don't know how much longer I can wait... please give me your input guys!

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iPhone 4S Cons:

#1 It's an iPhone
#2 It does not have a QWERTY keyboard
#3 I rather spend a night in a Mexican prison than an hour with an "Apple Genius"
#4 It does not have voice guided navigation like Android does.
#5 It does not have a removable battery.
#6 It is not an open OS and not nearly as cool as Maemo but almost rivals Android...
#7 No Flash

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galaxy note, captivate glide, sgs2, or maybe nexus

p.s sgs2>iP4s(my opinion)

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I don't think it exists. The closest thing I could get to your requirements is a Sony (Ericsson) Xperia Pro. It has a full qwerty, a planned upgrade to 4.0 and an 8MP camera with an Exmor R sensor. I think Sony make the same camera for Apples 4S. The thing it's missing is a dualcore. it only has a snapdragon 1Ghz scorpion.

Also, take a look at the Nuu Minikey or Boxwave for the iphone which might be an option.

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wasnt a new motorola droid with a full qwerty just released?

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I don't believe that works on AT&T's frequencies. Can anyone confirm?

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Why not an N9? It's quick enough without a dual core and my N900 looks positivley pedestrian in comparison.

I too wanted a full keyboard but after 3 days using Swype the need has gone. Give it a try.

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I recommend to buy a nokia N9. For you it's easy to move from N900 to N9. Like bockersjv said " It's quick enough without a dual core" and that's true. N9 has very smooth user interface. I could not use any other phone right now than my N9.

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Certainly you should get rid of that piece-of-junk N900. I'll do you a favor and take it off your hands for $100. Just send me a PM and we can arrange the transfer. My current N900 is lonely and needs companionship...

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The specs aren't impressive and it's a still-birth OS. And even if it wasn't - this is one of the few OSes that could REALLY befit from a dual core processor. MeeGo is dead, and frankly to me - not nearly as impressive as Maemo (which was mostly due to this amazing community).

To sum up why no on the N9: Dead OS, single core processor (vs iPhone's dual core), 251ppi (vs iPhone's 330ppi), 720 video (vs iPhone's 1080), and I don't think it is sold in the states with a warranty.

I really wish that this device was better, with a living OS - it would be real nice to see me proven wrong.

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HA! My N900 will always be with me, like a retired war horse that I hang out with in the stables. You will never see the day!:D

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But the n9 has something unique, something that you can't see in other phones. I really really suggest you get N9. I promise you wont miss any other phone when you get this on your hands.

I was owner of N900 too, and i like everything on it. Most of N900 owners next phone is N9, so within little time, N9 will come a better N900.

Only thing what i really miss in my n900 is keyboard, but you get used to it.

Of course it is your own decision what phone you will get. I just wrote my own opinions here :D, so don't get mad at me :D

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Yeah, I know what you mean. But it was different when the N900 was released, that cannot be argued;

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phone...onths-ago/5197

I am not disillusion - I don't expect any major updates for the N9, especially anytime soon, I MeeGo simply isn't enough for me. As I said, it is a still birth OS, a first gen at that.

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Really guys, no one here is going to try to talk me out of buying an iPhone???

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Absolutely not. If you want glitz, if you want glamour, if you want carry around a little TV set that you can just sit and watch while you put your brain into "Park", you just can't do better than the iPhone. Android has tried to dumb-down Linux as much as they could, Nokia even dumbed-down Maemo for the N9, but for sheer drop-dead brainless usage nobody can or ever will beat Apple. :)

(Honestly, what do you want to do with the phone that the n900 can't do? Sure, the hardware keeps improving, but the only thing I've seen that used for is an increased ability to play movies and games. Why do you want a phone for that? Just get an iPod Touch instead, or even better, a tablet.)

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honestly, if I wasn't buying an N9 soon, I would go for an iPhone (sad, but true). There are no other highends with a different OS than Android, which personally I can't recommend and the rather-not-to-mention one (:D), which is relatively new too.

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My Phone History the Last years

SE p1
Nokia e61

iPhone 2G
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
Htc HD2
Palm pre 2
iPhone 4
Htc trophy
N900
iPhone 3GS
Hp pre 3 (at the Moment)

So i had every OS and now i'm looking for a cheap n9 (300€) and will give meego a Chance ( the Last Chance)

After that i'm home Baby and will get my x iPhone 4 device gg

Why?
Because it works, works, Works ;)

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Most of us reading these messages have an N900 or N9. I don't care if someone moans that they are going to buy an iPhone or whatever. I'm very happy with my phone; buy what you want to buy. I don't mind...

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Why don't you buy a fridge?

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If you want an iPhone, go ahead.
But if you want a really really nice phone that works really well as a phone, look at what's called a Pre 3.

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I had the n900 and loved it.
Tried the iphone 4s thought it was boring. Cant explain why really.
Had my sisters sgs2 for a week and i liked it but didnt feel right.
On the n9 now and loving it. Sure it would be good with a dualcore in it but thats just for future stuff.
Ics port looks promising and is damn fast now with hw acc according to E-yes.

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isn't there only one phone available on the market market with android 4.0??

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if you by a new battery for the n900 and reflash it, there's no reason to buy another..
to date.. there's still nothing that comes close to it..and that's fact.

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I think you should really look at what you want to do with a phone....what you think is really relevant..

i now own a n900 and i still find it awesome...the maemo community (and cssu) made the n900 to what it is today...

I can remember people saying maemo is DEAD but to me it,s very much alive (thanks to cssu) so to say meego is dead i am not sure about that...pr 1.2 just came out maybe the nokia n9 will get some support from tizen in the future(who knows) maybe the meego/maemo devs will also whip up something...(you never know) it's all possible why cause it's a open source OS..

i also think that alot of linux heads(aka us geeks) will pick up a n9 over any closed OS we love to play around with it...so my guess/hope is that we get as much love for the n9 as we did for the n900

Ps i'm also getting a nokia n9

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maemo5 run on quadcore and 1gig of ram, whoooaaaaa, nokia please make it real, :D

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If you could run maemo5 on it, I'd love to buy it. WebOS progs run well on N900, lets hope the opposite is possible too

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With N900 as HWK for N9 it should work quite alright. Still as I was late to the party, will wait till N9 gets below 400$. Hope AEGIS will not scare people off. Being able to accomplish what is possible on N900 is good enough for me, but the current price is somewhat discouraging. Tried swype in store and in 5 minutes it did become natural (some other-brand punkboi changed the language to chinese/japanese, so spent 3 minutes blindly aiming for language menu though :/)

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Dual/Quadcore is not required when you run natively. All the java needs multicore in droids. Same as comparing arch/mint on single core 1033mhz vs Vista on dualcore 1500. Bloat needs fix in better HW

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Only the kernel is open. The rest is closed. Harmattan is considerably less open than Fremantle. There is very limited scope for UX enchancements.

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So no difference from chinese tablet hacks? They also release kernel source (not always), keep driver hacks to themselves. At least this is what I understood from problems Cordia et al were having

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dare I say this, motorola milestone 3?

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I agree with you on this, I also had the 4S for some 2 months and it's smooth, fast and has a great camera, but yes it's boring. I think it's mostly cause of you get what you see and that's it. The 4S is just to polished and you need to jailbreak it to mod it, just to much hassle. There's not really anything to descover underneath the surface.
On another note I've heard roumers about Sony is making a wp7 with a hw keyboard, prolly look like their x1/2 models?
Ohh if you like 4S get that one and one of those hard cases with a bluetooth slideout hw keyboards in them. Get's a bit chunky but not more than the N900 and you can get one of those stylus's for capacitive screens.

Regards Dousan...

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Ok didn't know that..by the way great job on the musikloud app (that was you right) Nice app..Is it possible to run MKloud on the Nokia n9 cause once again my n9 is coming this thuesday...and i really like musikloud..

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nokia 808
best camera
best gpu
best smartphone os
best dsp

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I am on AT&T.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3...&idPhone2=4212

I don't think that works as well on AT&T network, I might be mistaken though...

Will that be receiving Android Ice Cream Sandwich?

It really pisses me off that Nokia doesn't have a device that even comes close to rivaling the iPhone 4S or Android using an open Linux OS.

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Think about what you have said there, in the context of all the boasting about openness that we see on TMO. Nokia release a device that is less open than the last, and the fanboys shift the goalposts. With the N900, we proudly claimed to have the most open device on the market. Now the N9 fanboys are reduced to claiming that at least it's no worse than some other crap that I wouldn't buy. Here is a device that needs to be jailbroken (i.e. flash open kernel and void your warranty) in order to get it anywhere close to the same level as the N900. Even then, you still have a much less customisable UX.

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I never was claiming N9 being open. AEGIS from the little I read about it (not yet researching whether buying N9 is a good idea - price tag) by accident seems disgusting. But, marxian, you also complain in other threads that N900 is closed (which it is, but in comparison to other devices is still awesomely open, at least for me). If I can get my own dev environment running on it (gcc-4.6, all the libs, access to components -GPS I guess): and even better yet, N900 as hwk for it, it does seem like an interesting option. Plus all the little gadgets from my N900 should be easily portable/recompilable (though pentesting seems out of the question sadly)

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I don't recall claiming that the N900 is closed. If I did, then I was probably off my meds, or something. :) I might complain about Nokia not opening the source code for the stock applications, but that's it.


See link in my signature. :)

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Yes thanks i saw it..but to late i guess lol...

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Sorry, must've taken the endless Nokia-closing-things-from-us (when we present nothing in exchange, except waiting for those patents to rain on us) circlejerk to an unacceptable extent. Forgive me, too many discussions here, my bad. Then on the other hand:

How dare you claim N900 is open? What about battery monitoring? Tried recoding modest???

and so on, and so forth :D