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Ashbeck 2012-03-24 22:25

Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Ok, Nokia Lumia 900 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 1830
mAh (BP-6EW) and the nokia n9 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 1450
mAh (BV-5JW)

there is a 380 mAh difference between lumia 900 and nokia N9.
do you guys think it's a wise idea to buy a lumia 900 battery on ebay and put it in a Nokia N9? Do you think it's worth it?

Share your thoughts with me. Cheers.

MFaroTusino 2012-03-24 22:30

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Sounds like a good idea, I have thought the same thing too. Not sure if there would be compatability issues or not.

Let me know how it goes

Arie 2012-03-24 22:46

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1183731)
Ok, Nokia Lumia 900 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 1830
mAh (BP-6EW) and the nokia n9 has a Standard battery, Li-Ion 1450
mAh (BV-5JW)

there is a 380 mAh difference between lumia 900 and nokia N9.
do you guys think it's a wise idea to buy a lumia 900 battery on ebay and put it in a Nokia N9? Do you think it's worth it?

Share your thoughts with me. Cheers.

If it fits, I will make this change too. As well as another N9 owner I know.

tissot 2012-03-24 23:00

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Lumia 900 is the only phone using the specific battery and as 900 is unibody design like 800/N9 i wonder how easy will it be to find that battery from ebay? Price will probably be quite a bit higher.

rainisto 2012-03-24 23:35

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
sometimes I just laugh at stupid ideas in this forum :-)

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...t-00.09.25.jpg vs.http://shop.headlane.co.uk/imagecach...ec_800x600.jpg

Good luck making different shaped batterys fit and making converter cables for the power connector...

tissot 2012-03-24 23:41

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1183747)
sometimes I just laugh at stupid ideas in this forum :-)

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...t-00.09.25.jpg vs.http://shop.headlane.co.uk/imagecach...ec_800x600.jpg

Good luck making different shaped batterys fit and making converter cables for the power connector...

That's interesting looking battery compared to the "norm" looking Nokia batteries.


http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...7794214441.jpg

smcsa 2012-03-25 07:34

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
I wonder if i can change the N9 camera with PureView camera. They are both Nokia, both Carl Zeiss optics, right ?

immi.shk 2012-03-25 07:45

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Battery may be Hard to Fit in N9..
but..
MeeGo/Harmattan might fit inside Nokia Lumia 900 someday.. ;)

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 08:22

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1183747)
sometimes I just laugh at stupid ideas in this forum :-)

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up...t-00.09.25.jpg vs.http://shop.headlane.co.uk/imagecach...ec_800x600.jpg

Good luck making different shaped batterys fit and making converter cables for the power connector...

Well if you don't ask then you will not know, thats how people learn, by asking and having ideas

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 08:42

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Il keep looking to see if i get a higher mAh battery made by some Chinese company.

Remember: A mans dreams are limited only by his Imagination

dr_frost_dk 2012-03-25 09:33

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
You can wait and see if SCUD makes a battery for it, else search for Polarcell they make battery“s for many phones and have a high capacity for their size, SCUD have a high capacity in the N900, but that is due to them being thickeir (but still fitting)

Other thing to wait for is when some company makes a XL battery and XL cover, this could be mugen or if you check DealExtreme and places like that, can be anybody.

zimon 2012-03-25 10:03

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Oh, just buy SGS2 and buy a Mugen battery for that. Then if you really are into reasonable challenges, port Meego to that SGS2.

And in the future, do not buy phones, like N9 or any Lumia, which have not easy-replacable battery and not easy back cover.
Marko Ahtisaari may think they are pretty when batteries are unreplacable and deep hidden, but they are not suitable for a heavy user.

rainisto 2012-03-25 10:16

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1183823)
Well if you don't ask then you will not know, thats how people learn, by asking and having ideas

I just don't get why people don't know how to use search engines, like it only took 2 minutes to dig different battery pictures with google.

It's not like Nokia would put some low capa battery into their device and would save 2 pennies per device. Of course there is max capa battery that fills the room that is avail in the device.

One can always hope that someone makes bigger cover, or you can drill hole to your cover and connect to power cables and glue bigger battery to back of the phone. Or you can make external batterypack that connects to micro-usb connection.

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 10:33

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk (Post 1183834)
You can wait and see if SCUD makes a battery for it, else search for Polarcell they make battery“s for many phones and have a high capacity for their size, SCUD have a high capacity in the N900, but that is due to them being thickeir (but still fitting)

Other thing to wait for is when some company makes a XL battery and XL cover, this could be mugen or if you check DealExtreme and places like that, can be anybody.

thanks for the tips.

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 10:38

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1183843)
I just don't get why people don't know how to use search engines, like it only took 2 minutes to dig different battery pictures with google.

It's not like Nokia would put some low capa battery into their device and would save 2 pennies per device. Of course there is max capa battery that fills the room that is avail in the device.

One can always hope that someone makes bigger cover, or you can drill hole to your cover and connect to power cables and glue bigger battery to back of the phone. Or you can make external batterypack that connects to micro-usb connection.

I actually created this thread from my phone, things dont work on phones as they work on computer.
The drill hole idea is interesting because I think a kill switch would do well on n9(for personal reasons) a tiny hole in the back. Kill switch. But gota think about it.

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 10:44

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1183840)
Oh, just buy SGS2 and buy a Mugen battery for that. Then if you really are into reasonable challenges, port Meego to that SGS2.

And in the future, do not buy phones, like N9 or any Lumia, which have not easy-replacable battery and not easy back cover.
Marko Ahtisaari may think they are pretty when batteries are unreplacable and deep hidden, but they are not suitable for a heavy user.

I care about the look of the device S2 i dont like so much. I like the n9 design because its different. All phones have the same design now-a-days but N9/lumia 800 have a fresh design. Lets hope nokia dont over use that design. As for internal battery sadly. Most companies are following the apple. Even sony started doing the internal battery thing.

user/zero 2012-03-25 10:50

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Why would you drill a hole in your phone to connect a power switch? Why not buy a development board if you need that?

zimon 2012-03-25 19:20

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1183861)
I care about the look of the device S2 i dont like so much. I like the n9 design because its different. All phones have the same design now-a-days but N9/lumia 800 have a fresh design. Lets hope nokia dont over use that design. As for internal battery sadly. Most companies are following the apple. Even sony started doing the internal battery thing.

Are you a girl? Design?
Design is ~ok, as long as it doesn't harm fuctionality and usability like deeply integrated non-changeable and non-upgradable battery and backcovers do. Then those "girls" whine they have too small battery life, but it has to be superthin and "beautiful".
I hope Samsung never goes to that same trap where Nokia went.

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 19:26

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1183995)
Are you a girl? Design?
Design is ~ok, as long as it doesn't harm fuctionality and usability like deeply integrated non-changeable and non-upgradable battery and backcovers do. Then those "girls" whine they have too small battery life, but it has to be superthin and "beautiful".
I hope Samsung never goes to that same trap where Nokia went.

Am i a girl, No, I just like having nice things, that do nice things... Simple, everyone is different, so if your idea is different, that is OK, You can have an ugly thing that does alot, and thats fine... But if i am going to spend £300+ on a smartphone, it has to look and do nice things...

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 21:34

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_frost_dk (Post 1183834)
You can wait and see if SCUD makes a battery for it, else search for Polarcell they make battery“s for many phones and have a high capacity for their size, SCUD have a high capacity in the N900, but that is due to them being thickeir (but still fitting)

Other thing to wait for is when some company makes a XL battery and XL cover, this could be mugen or if you check DealExtreme and places like that, can be anybody.

Ok i went to the Mugen site and i found a 1800 mAh battery, which i believe can fit the N9 battery Bay, the thing about the N9 And Lumia design is that, the batteries can be a bit fatter, but not longer or wider, and i found a 1800 battery that fits this, One problem is that, i might have to get the converter connector cables.

So i will have to do a bit of thinking, How i would be able to join the converter cables, (Which don't seem that hard) without short circuiting the battery.

Thanks Man!

> I might sound crazy, Maybe i am, but if you want something, Go for it.

Source for nokia N9 info FCC


> DISCLAIMER, PEOPLE, I AM NOT SAYING OPEN YOUR PHONE AND DESTROY IT. THINK BEFORE YOU DO THINGS, OK, TAKE TIME AND THINK ABOUT IT CAREFUL IF THE GAIN IS WORTH IT, OPENING YOUR N9 WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY AND IF YOU ARE NOT PATIENT, YOU MIGHT DAMAGE YOUR PHONE BEYOND REPAIR <

Makeclick 2012-03-25 22:05

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
:D
There you go. mesure it with some li-po charger if you want me to believe it has 1500mah :D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1500mAh-BP-4...1#ht_918wt_905

"Mugen site and i found a 1800 mAh battery"

Mugens battery size? i bet, that is much larger than the N9 battery. ( N9 original battery: 58,5mm X 37,8mm X 5.3mm)

Ashbeck 2012-03-25 22:17

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1184036)
:D

"Mugen site and i found a 1800 mAh battery"

Mugens battery size? i bet, that is much larger than the N9 battery. ( N9 original battery: 58,5mm X 37,8mm X 5.3mm)

Actually, i think it is the same size.It was designed for the N97 and all, And the fact it's A 1800 mAh battery sounds nice... (Without the use of the cover, Btw)

http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com...-n810-e71.html

For example, the Nokia 5800 Battery BL-5J has almost the same dimensions as the 58,5mm X 37.8mm, :( Sadly, i don't have a ruler but a tape measure and cannot be Laser accurate. But the tape says it's Kinda the same.

Wad you think?

strongm 2012-03-25 23:11

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
N97: BP-4L measures 65.92 x 43.56 x 4.83 mm
5800: BL-5J measures 59.89 x 37.80 x 5.57mm
N9: BV-5JW measures 58.5 x 38 x 5.6mm

Makeclick 2012-03-25 23:41

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
So best of n900 battery can be put in the N9 (maybe). So ~1500mah

specc 2012-03-25 23:57

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1183825)
Remember: A mans dreams are limited only by his Imagination

It's nice to know that reality don't have that limitation...

Ashbeck 2012-03-26 06:48

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1184062)
So best of n900 battery can be put in the N9 (maybe). So ~1500mah

Might, but then, 1500 mAh don't seem like a giant "Leap", Because N9 already has 1450 mAh,

Like, My friend has an Xperia S with a 1750 mAh, and he said, at first battery was bad, but now he gets long times(Sometimes days), So then i was thinking, if you can get this, on android with a 1750 mAh battery, Imagine a 1800 mAh on N9

strongm 2012-03-26 08:51

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
>So best of n900 battery can be put in the N9

The shape and the connector are significantly different. And the possible 50mAH gain is not worth it, frankly

don_falcone 2012-03-26 08:57

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1184062)
So best of n900 battery can be put in the N9 (maybe). So ~1500mah

Maybe "connected", but definitely not "put IN" (to be strict). :D

Ashbeck 2012-03-26 11:30

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
The problem for people who think, An external power source is best, you are reminded of that flap that has to be opened to be charged. When on the move, i think, you should think about that because the slightest bump could see that flap Gone...

> N97: BP-4L measures 65.92 x 43.56 x 4.83 mm
5800: BL-5J measures 59.89 x 37.80 x 5.57mm
N9: BV-5JW measures 58.5 x 38 x 5.6mm <

Thanks for those measurements. Need to do some thinking.

Makeclick 2012-03-26 20:37

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1184157)
>So best of n900 battery can be put in the N9

The shape and the connector are significantly different. And the possible 50mAH gain is not worth it, frankly

yep.......

Makeclick 2012-03-26 20:43

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Its almost imposible to get battery to smaller size with the same or better mAh.. When you want to add mAh... size is going to be larger. I think, this is the maxed out battery size/mAh.

balisingh 2012-03-27 01:15

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1183825)
Il keep looking to see if i get a higher mAh battery made by some Chinese company.

Remember: A mans dreams are limited only by his Imagination

most likely you are going to end up with a battery smaller than the original, but you wont know it. Hey ignorance is bliss. You will think you have a higher capacity battery and thats all that counts. I am sorry, too easy.

zimon 2012-03-27 18:35

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashbeck (Post 1184201)
The problem for people who think, An external power source is best, you are reminded of that flap that has to be opened to be charged. When on the move, i think, you should think about that because the slightest bump could see that flap Gone...

And when using external battery, lots of energy is wasted because it is starting to charge the internal battery right after it is connected.

There could be a hack for that, or could there? I mean, one could manually disable charging and use all the power to the device from microUSB.

Anyway, I still think it is plainly STUPID to put hardly replaceable battery and "beautiful" backcover to a device like N9, which is meant to be a device for heavy users. For cheap devices, mean to children and elderly, like Lumias it can be excused maybe though.

tissot 2012-03-27 20:44

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1184407)
Its almost imposible to get battery to smaller size with the same or better mAh.. When you want to add mAh... size is going to be larger. I think, this is the maxed out battery size/mAh.

And please nobody trust those ebay ones that claim to have silly capacities backed in a same size.
At the very best you will end up with similar battery in capacity, or more likely half of the original.

enjoy 2012-11-28 00:18

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
Look that 2500 mAh for N9 ???


2500mAh High capacity battery BP-4L for Nokia N9 E61i E71 E72 N97 N97i E90 E95

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250991581483

taviman 2012-12-21 12:27

Re: Using a lumia 900 battery in a nokia N9?
 
That battery doesn't even have a wired connector.


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