N9: Alternative Wi-Fi Hotspot app?
 

Hello everyone,

would it be possible to create an alternative, open source Wi-Fi hotspot app that would not "collect statistical information about" (read - track) users in order to "provide and improve the service"?

I am kind of angry about this...
or is it known what the original one actually collects?

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Sorry, but nobody cares? Is that really OK to be tracked no matter the purpose without having an option to turn it off or a single idea of what is sent?

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I don't use the hot spot app that often and when I do it's for other people so I'm not stressed.
Send itsnotabigtruck a pm, this is something he may be able to help you with.

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How can the default Wi-Fi hotspot app track your activity in any way that your wireless carrier is not already doing?

You're looking for conspiracies against your privacy in the wrong places, lad.

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Would love a wifi hotspot app that supports infrastructure mode, but I guess this is never going to happen :(

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Arie -> thanks for responding, I'll see.

You don't get the point. It's clear my ISP has access to all of my data, that is something I won't change, but what the heck has Nokia to do with it?

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I don't have any idea myself, but I'm curious as to the nature of the actual data collected as well. It would be rather desirable to build a replacement for the preloaded JoikuSpot - besides the possible spying, the lack of 5 GHz support, limited choice of channels, and lack of infrastructure mode are also huge issues.

The problem however, last I checked, was that infrastructure mode isn't possible without a new wireless driver, which itself can't be replaced without modifying the kernel, which requires going into open mode. :( However, I'm not 100% sure that kernel modifications are actually necessary.

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sorry for asking in such old topic. did anyone managed how to get Infrastructure hotspot working? I have HP TouchPad and plan to buy BlackBerry PlayBook, none of them sees AdHoc. I really need this option to can connect.

I believe we have enough skilled members here to do it :)

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I'd like to see a hotspot app with this feature as well, for connecting nexus 7 through n9 to internet. I'm willing to pay for it if such an app becomes available, or both flash n9s kernel and buy an app.

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Could be nice if my ps3 was able connect too.

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*bump*

+1 for a alternative app

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once upon a time, but what I would wish for, if possible, would be a hotspot app whic would allow hot spotting and networking without having to connect with other devices(file sharing mostly)

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move along..impossible to implement infrastructure hotspot on N9 without support from Nokia themselves.

just sail along wit Jolla. the chipset difnitely will be using infrastructure hotspot.

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Should not be impossible. Difficult, yes, but not impossible.

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you need to alter the driver, which is closed source. impossible in my book.

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Actually, all the needed components are open source. Only closed blob is the firmware (wl1271-fw-ap.bin) and that's available from TI.

Kernel sources in the latest plus can be patched from ti-utils to load the AP mode firmware. There's no need for any funny business with user-mode bouncers, you can just use NAT and wpasupplicant to launch up the network.

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Check out: Piratebox
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88059

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Totally agree, the firmware is a closed blob, but the driver code is available and actually, I am looking at what to do with that - regarding injection - and aligning used driver code with more current updates. It is a simple task I would say, not difficult at all - just timeconsuming when you only have nighttime to work :P

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Hi!

And would it be also possible to implement WPA2 as a security protocol? WEP is kind of old and compromised...

Best regards,

Jaracz

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The most difficult thing in the task is to make it coexist nicely with the existing Harmattan infra which would like to see the WLAN connection just as a client device. The kernel part is the easy part :D

You need to hack the startup scripts so that when you do a normal wlan connect it will load the normal mode wl12xx drivers (wl12xx_spi, wl12xx_sdio) and push up the wl1271-fw.bin firmware to the chip, and when you set up the AP mode it will unload the normal mode cleanly, push up the wl1271-fw-ap.bin firmware and kll off the network manager without affecting the 3g connection...

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That's one of the easy parts :D

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;) See, you already provided a solution

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Well I have been thinking about this a bit.... Not yet in the implementation stage though :D

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For those interessted, the linux kernel pages describes quite well what needs to be considered to achieve this (and other work)

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/wl12xx

For one, if we want to implement the open source drivers, it *seems* two firmware blobs for station and accespoint modes, plus, the sdio seems not supported anymore (eg on our 2.6.32 kernel) - a good reason to try to change this ;)