RIM bets heavy on Qt and QML
 

http://crackberry.com/press-release-...ry-10-platform

Didn't know where to post this, move if necessary...

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RIM's only major value is BBM and their enterprise services. If they were smart they would license out BBM to make up for their losses.

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Still,that larger strategy notwithstanding, it is not an UNwise move to embrace Qt, especially from the perspective of many here.

So now, Qt is on:

windows desktop
linux desktop
mac desktop
windows CE
embedded linux
symbian
maemo
meego
BB 10
Android ( http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/necessitas/ )

need ios ( http://www.qt-iphone.com/Roadmap.html )
need wp7

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Qt is a good move, I was just speaking in general.

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Could be just the kind of thing that needs to happen, yet another e-flop decision to move away from Qt and go to the lovely closed design of Windows Phone.

When the masses of manufacturers and developers adopt something you called useless and tossed it aside, the board should start to realise that you are a m0ron lol.

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Yes, move to Qt & QML is a very good move. More over experienced qt developers are working for them when nokia abandoned qt ecosystem


http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/1/299...ers/in/2755145

blackberry 10 platform looks promising, like meego harmattan, they also provided qt quick components to ease development.

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I like Qt very much:

Works with
- C++
- Python
- Lazarus


Nokia has everything but isn't able to make use of it.

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Any hints about official Python (PySide/PyQt) support ? :)

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fwiw RIM is a top sponsor at Qt Contributors Summit:
http://blog.qt.nokia.com/2012/04/25/...butors-summit/

About Nokia's involvement in Qt, see http://qt-project.org/wiki/Nokia-and-Qt and weekly data at http://www.macieira.org/blog/qt-stats/

There is another initiative that seems to be more active nowadays, see https://twitter.com/#!/Qt4iOS

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thanks for the better ios start info. Still not going there, but it is valuable i suppose for adoption :)

quim, care to speculate, hypothesize, hint, deflect on wp7 and qt? I saw the metro phonegap stuff out, Maybe there will be cooperation.

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It is enough to care about replying off-topic with a couple of links to sources. :)

The first step is up to Microsoft: Native SDK to support C++ Development.

If that happens then the door will be technically open for anybody to try, since Qt is open source etc etc. See also Qt Support.

PS: Now please go back to topic or open a new thread. Thanks!

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It has been hinted and speculated that WP8 will incorporate Qt as part of Nokias deal with Microsoft, possibly an attempt at creating a backup plan. I mean if windows phones fails, as long as it is Qt enabled, more apps and Nokia could revive MeeGo or similar and help porting Qt apps over to it, allowing it to join the current eco system of platforms with all the same apps :D

But one can only dream that Nokia has any sense left.. Won't happen under E-flop anyways :(

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Wouldn't it be funny if RIM released the n900 successor??

I mean something with a tilt-qwerty or otherwise a large (~5.2in) screen, with current-gen specs running full-fledged Qt on a Unix-like kernel.

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Well, no hw keyboard, but the rest is brewing with native platform development based on Qt and QNX underneath.

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Intel? Surprises me... I wouldn't have thought they'd contribute as much. Any particular project they work on with Qt?

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Tizen IVI, as an example..

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So there is competition for the third ecosystem it seems.

Not surprising, Nokia sues RIM:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/2/299...t-infringement

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Thiago Macieira (former Trolltech and Nokia) is an Intel employee, maintainer of Qt Core, and also of those stats. He was one of the main driver of the open governance initiative that lead to the Qt Project itself. Intel is also a sponsor of the Qt Contributors Summit, see my link above.

PS: if you are in San Francisco next week you will find Thiago & others (/me included) both at the Ubuntu Developer Summit (Qt Project is involved with sessions and sponsorship) and the Tizen conference.

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ah... i thought tizen dropped qt altogether. I have to admit I totally lost interest after the grand reset.

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RIM seems to know how these things work since their Qt stuff is merged to upstream.

http://wiki.qt-project.org/QNX

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AFAIK Tizen IVI is MeeGo-based while Tizen Phone/Tablet is Limo-based.

Btw, is it just me or does the photo of the RIM developer OS on BBC today look a bit like Harmattan?

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Nokia sues RIM, HTC, etc for patent infringement on (amongst other things) "software features like multitasking"?

It would be funny, if not so miserably pathetic. It seems that they spent too much time with micros$$t.

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GREAT NOKIA!!!

You did it AGAIN :mad:

So how much intrests will RIM have in Qt if Nokia still is sponsoring it and then Nokia is ridicilous enought to patent troll on for example Multitasking :mad:

(I can understand it in atntenna stuff and similar but NOT software!!!

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I assume Elop is pondering day and night how to drive Qt against the wall and have it look like an accident. Sueing RIM would perfectly fit into this strategy.

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Here is the text It is about hardware capabilities to enhance software features like multitasking.

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I don't think so.

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Care to elaborate a bit?

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Just read it again...

On another note - maybe we now know why Nokia is suing RIM - BlackBerry 10 UI mechanics remind me of something...

http://crackberry.com/rim-internal-d...-all-will-work

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If nokia won't care why should we ? And I think this BB 10 will help the QT ecosystem

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Has anyone else noticed how RIM appear to be taking all of the best bits from the other OS's and bundling them together or just me?

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In my opinon a very clever move from BlackBerry to use and support Qt and qml. The biggest problem of RIM is currently the lack of applications and developers.

Nokia had pranked the majority of their Qt developers and contributors. If BB provides now good support and a new home for all former Symbian / maemo / MeeGo Harmattan developers I'm sure BB will get soon a fast growing AppStore. A very important argument those days.

I hope I can attend the BB Jam event in Berlin, germany. It is about 8 hours away for me, but I hope it is worth the trip.
QNX is not Linux, it sounds to me very closed and there is no terminal. But my N950 will not least forever and currently the BB10 UI looks so familar to MeeGo Harmattan that it is worth to have a detailed look at it. At least I will try to port my MeeGo stuff to BB10 as soon as I get a device in my hands! :D

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It may have a Python interactive prompt it seems. BB10 here we go.

http://peterhansen.ca/blog/bb10-pyth...interface.html

:cool:

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Mmmh... I like what I see. :D Good find. Thanks!

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Interesting, very interesting. ;)

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this could be good for meego? Compatibily apps with n9???

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Can't speak for BB10 itself, but you can enable an SSH server on the Blackberry Playbook (which is running QNX too).

It was super easy to port my Qt app to the Playbook (Qt/QML), and I'd expect it to be even easier with BB10 now that Qt on QNX is maturing a bit (and the release of the new SDK). If they play their cards right, they can have a whole lot of Qt apps available in their store very quickly.

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Does RIM plan to provide their own version of Qt quick component to facilitate porting? Or any mapper to map Qt quick component to relevant Cascade component?

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Why should we be concerned?
It's only good, since the Harmattan is close sourced in the UI so that we cannot develop on top of it, and Nokia has basically axed its development (more or less, we'll see), I don't se a reason why RIM shouldn't use this innovation (=copy) and use it in their new OS.

If you behave like a stupid then the outcome is just a consequence of your bad behavior.

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Yes, porting was easy, but I had a lot of problems to puplish it on their store without the needed hardware to do the testing.

Anyway! RIM sent out my new BlackBerry Playbook today. Yay! :)

It has left Loveland, Ohio (USA) early this morning and is now on his long trip to germany. I guess it would have been a lot cheaper to sent me 189€ to buy it myself. ;)

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Once it hits iOS, QT could become new C, forget each ARM introducing its own problems, mobile world will become "C89" compatible in form other than java (which isn't, btw thanks to Nokia)...
Just kidding, manufacturers have investment in backwards incompatibilising drivers/hardware