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For Lumiaman - 101 Reasons Not to Buy WP7.5
Care to comment on this Lumiaman? Or forever hold your peace.
101 REASONS NOT TO BUY A WINDOWS PHONE 7.5 OS LIMITATIONS 1. No true multitasking - apps are frozen in the background. 2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality. 3. No mass storage mode. 4. No micro-SD card support. 5. Only support up to 16GB storage . 6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally opaque. 7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only transfer photos, videos & music. All other files need to email/upload to yourself. 8. Your contact details are automatically uploaded to cloud service whether you like it or not. 9. Limited to 800x480 resolution. 10. No wi-fi hotspot. 11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints. 12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks. 13. No VPN support for this “corporate enterprise” phone. 14. Cannot sync with Outlook. 15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps outside MS Marketplace. 16. System font size cannot be changed. 17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone. 18. Windows Live ID account cannot change country once set. 19. No centralized notification page. 20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this. 21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications. 22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed. 23. Bluetooth cannot stream to car audio devices (no rSAP). 24. Cannot stream audio from video to Bluetooth devices (No A2DP). 25. No support for full on-device encryption required for secure applications like mobile banking and online payment. 26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard. 27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone. 28. Very limited customization option. 29. Ugly 2D flat interface. Oversized fonts for headings treat you like an idiot. USABILITY ISSUES 30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on. 31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you don’t want running in the background. 32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience. 33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification. 34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen. 35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to read for those over 45. 36. Cannot edit playlist or create new playlists from phone. 37. Cannot delete a song from phone. 38. Cannot search your music collection on the phone. 39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot. 40. No progress bar for current track playing and no indication which track in an album is playing 41. Cannot lock screen orientation. 42. Online and phone contacts are mixed together with no ability to filter. 43. Cumbersome dialing with no smartdial. No way to create a ‘Favourites’ list of phone contacts 44. Cannot save draft sms messages. 45. Call history only show phone number type. If a contact has multiple phone nos. for a type the number used is unknown. 46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number. 47. Text messages can only be deleted one by one. 48. Cannot select multiple pictures for deleting, sending or uploading. They must be done one at a time. 49. Notification for recurring events is only given once and none thereafter. 50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no way to group by category. Can be hard to find if you don’t remember the name. 51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view and monthly view is non-zoomable. 52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email downloads. 53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences don’t agree with Microsoft that it “typically” choose wi-fi over 3G. FEATURE LIMITATIONS 54. No video call. 55. No haptic feedback for keyboard. 56. No Swype. 57. No flashplayer support. 58. No support for Java apps. 59. No call recording or app to do it. 60. No call blocking or app to do it. 61. No screenshots or app to do it. 62. No auto wallpaper changer and no app to do it. 63. Totally locked down os means apps which interact directly with hardware not allowed. 64. No equalizer for Zune music player. 65. FM radio doesn’t work on speaker. 66. IE browser has no text reflow, no download capability and no offline reading. 67. No 3rd party browsers allowed except those based on IE. 68. No built-in pdf file reader, need to buy app. 69. Cannot open zip or rar files received as email attachment. 70. Cannot send or receive video by MMS. 71. Office Mobile has much less features than 3rd party Office editors like SmartOffice, QuickOffice and Polaris. Shame on you, Microsoft! 72. No native Google maps and Bing maps is useless for most countries outside U.S. 73. Email time stamp does not show the year. 74. Wide difference in apps availability in different markets and users locked to one market. 75. Not all Bing features available outside U.S. DUMB AND DUMBER 76. One volume control for all functions including media playback, ringtones, alarms, notifications. 77. Wi-fi disconnects when screen sleeps. Too bad if you are in the middle of a download. 78. If you receive a text message when talking on the phone an audio alert will blast your ear at the full volume set. All other phones will give a soft beep. 79. Can only enter one mobile phone no. for each contact. Mobile nos. entered in other fields will not accept sms. 80. Cannot send/receive MMS without enabling 3G data connection. MMS does not use 3G data. 81. Phone cannot be charged when off. 82. Need to be plugged in to wall charger to sync wirelessly (a funny definition of wireless). 83. Volume up/down buttons cannot operate when screen is off. 84. Phone will wake up and display sms content on lockscreen when locked – a privacy violation. 85. Phone can be rebooted without unlocking to bypass security lock. FEATURES EVEN DUMB PHONES HAVE BUT WP7.5 DOESN’T 86. No bluetooth file transfer. 87. Cannot handle USSD codes. 88. Cannot save new contacts from call history. 89. Cannot sms contacts from call history. 90. Cannot show call duration in call history. 91. Cannot delete individual calls in call history. 92. Call history does not group calls by contact. 93. Call history does not show the time of call for calls older than current day. 94. Cannot set custom sounds for different types of notifications. 95. No ringer profiles. 96. No silent option (no vibrate and no ring). 97. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv file. 98. Cannot backup sms to PC. 99. Cannot save contact to SIM card. 100. Cannot change the alarm sound. 101. Cannot set alarm snooze interval. Source |
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wooow...
what a exhausting list... but unfortunately it´s all more than true... |
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Why do you care so much about Lumiaman? Put him on your block list like I did. The only time you will see his posts are when someone else quotes them. Best decision I've ever made, makes my tmo experience amazing now.
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Was this effort in provocation really necessary?
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The N9 has its' fair share of bugs and shortcomings but it still pisses all over WP :p
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Lumiaman is not important here, the severe shortcomings of WP7.5 is what matters...I´d like to hear something from Gerbick with his L900, as a reasonable man, about this...what is the real day-to-day use like..
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http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1170
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There is 1 reason why Lumia outsells N9. Smooth transitions, no lagging, no stuttering. Good user experience overall.
The features you list are cool. But the average user doesnt care. you can have 1,000 better features, but if it lags, freezes, crashes, or causes you seizures from too much stuttering, who wants it?? |
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Wow what a list! And what an effort for our no1 troll in here! But I have to say I went through it and didn't know WP is that bad. There are some points the N9 can't keep up neither, but that's an insignificant number.
Everyone who thinks about buying a WP should see this list! My old Sony Ericsson W890i would even beat this OS... Therefore... thanks for the effort! |
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but only if it´s true...I don´t know what KIND of N9 have you had or you still have but mine has never acted with the lags, freezes, etc. you keep moaning about...if you still have one, overclock its CPU, get FasterN9, DropCache or anything and see the improvement for yourself... in another way: what good is allegedly a super-fast phone WITHOUT basic features??? |
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I like this post simply because it illustrates behaviour and shortcomings that are regressive of mobile technological advancement. There are things on that list my N95 could do 5 years ago without a hiccup.
We cannot in the name of any 'ecosystem' give up basic functionalities and then revert to an experience that delivers smooth scrolling and fancy graphics and put a cloth over user control. We have already given up physical keyboards for VKB's and accepted that its for the best. What is the truth? for me personally i no longer use IM/Email as much as i cannot put in the effort required to constantly correct my typing. Whereas previously i could write a message with my eyes closed. |
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But that's why Lumia phones are the right phones for Lumiaman. WP is like a gameboy - you can't do that much with it, but you also can't do anything wrong. The problem is that many people don't think like Lumiaman and want to have more than just a mobile Xbox. I think his N9 is so laggy because he tried to play hangman in Terminal. Yeah... Developer Mode on is dangerous for some people. |
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3310 is smooth, for lumiaman. :D
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and I have a feeling that PR1.3 will make N9 even better and smoother... |
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Even the 2110, which I still own and use from time to time, beats any WP phone ( as long as we refer to phone capability ;))
thx for that list ... |
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#80 is the same for IOS.
Regards Dousan... |
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wow i did not know wp has so many stupid restrictions, this post should be posted as an article in nokia conversations:)
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i couldnt understand why microsoft build this os... i cant imagine that there were so much restriction. today is free world, people want to do things like they do.. oh! i forgot bill gates believe that software is not free from the day one.. so if you want non restricted wp7.5 please buy wp7.5 ultimate version... lol.. i also believe that my life is also lag there and there.. also sometime sluggish everywhere... but it is not restricted me to do things that i love to do. i just cannot live in the restriction when i cannot do this and that even if its flying and lightning fast.. whats the meaning of life if you can just lightning run to the restroom (for that purpose) but there are no flushing toilet!!! ha ha ha
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[QUOTE=Kein;1204710]Care to comment on this Lumiaman? Or forever hold your peace.
101 REASONS NOT TO BUY A WINDOWS PHONE 7.5 OS LIMITATIONS 1. No true multitasking - apps are frozen in the background. Neither in N9. You move from the multitasking page and everything freezes also. Some pages are obscured and disappear from the screen. 2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality. Crappy USB port, plastic hinge and door that fall apart 3. No mass storage mode. Screen stutters like you are looking at the 1960s TV sets 4. No micro-SD card support. Opening of apps lags, sometimes have to wait 5 or more seconds to get it opened, trying to move between screens and apps causes stuttering 5. Only support up to 16GB storage . Email search function is horrible. Sent emails are not automatically uploaded, one has to go to the directory to refresh it 6. No filemanager. Directory system is totally opaque. SMS getting mixed up between individuals 7. Need Zune to transfer files. Zune will only transfer photos, videos & music. All other files need to email/upload to yourself. Phone is moody when charging, sometimes able, sometimes unable to tap and view the screens. 8. Your contact details are automatically uploaded to cloud service whether you like it or not. you lose contact details in N9 and you are hosed 9. Limited to 800x480 resolution. Same as in N9. 10. No wi-fi hotspot. Who cares 11. Cannot use any MP3 file as ringtone except those with strict constraints. Who cares 12. Cannot set static IP address so no connection to ad-hoc networks. 13. No VPN support for this “corporate enterprise” phone. 14. Cannot sync with Outlook. Of course you can. Its the best email client out there, in Lumia 15. Totally closed OS, cannot sideload apps outside MS Marketplace. Keyboard is too small, sometimes the cursor goes to the very front of the text while trying to type??? 16. System font size cannot be changed. system font size can not be changed on N9 either. Bad for both, but the font is at least nicer on Lumia 17. Images and photos cannot be renamed in the phone. Notifications not listed on the front screen. If more than one, they are grouped 18. Windows Live ID account cannot change country once set. Who cares 19. No centralized notification page. When notification present on the front screen, you cant click on it to take you specifically there, you have to go to the specific screen 20. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this. Plainly wrong. Alarm clock on mine works like a charm when off 21. The idle screen is completely blank and cannot display time or notifications. Text input and corrections are inferior. 22. Only photos allowed as email attachments, documents not allowed. Dictionary does not remember new words and does not prompt them on the next try to type 23. Bluetooth cannot stream to car audio devices (no rSAP). Who cares 24. Cannot stream audio from video to Bluetooth devices (No A2DP). Who cares 25. No support for full on-device encryption required for secure applications like mobile banking and online payment. 26. Cannot use Bluetooth keyboard. Keyboard stutters on its way to appearing on the screen. Why not make that pop smooth? 27. Cannot silence ringtone or alarm by flipping the phone. Hearing piece too small, limits audio output 28. Very limited customization option. Photos inferior to any other 8 mp camera I have seen 29. Ugly 2D flat interface. Oversized fonts for headings treat you like an idiot. Tiny fonts that will make you go blind, without ability to change them USABILITY ISSUES 30. No always visible status bar for battery life, signal strength, carrier, 2G/3G wi-fi, Bluetooth on. Who cares 31. Taskmanager has no option to shut down apps you don’t want running in the background. Apps also down when you move from the N9 multi-tasking screen. 32. Search and Back button cannot be de-activated in apps or games and easily touched by accident which interrupt your user experience. Web browser cant remember favorite sites 33. Lockscreen need to be activated to show missed call/sms notification. copy and paste unable to use in emails 34. No way to close an app except pressing back button all the way to the first screen. copy and paste laggy at times stuttering when copying large text and overall horrible 35. Tiny fonts in messages is very hard to read for those over 45. Welcome to N9 world of tiniest fonts every designed. 36. Cannot edit playlist or create new playlists from phone. web browser with limited customization 37. Cannot delete a song from phone. Cant play many of the videos on the web 38. Cannot search your music collection on the phone. no dedicated google page with automatic GPS connection and search for nearby restaurants and areas of interest 39. Cannot close music player, can only pause. Music player on lockscreen will stay until you reboot. Complete lack of good apps. 40. No progress bar for current track playing and no indication which track in an album is playing keyboard layout is plain stupid, with point next to the space bar, always inserting points in my text 41. Cannot lock screen orientation. Weather can not display multiple cities at the same time 42. Online and phone contacts are mixed together with no ability to filter. inexplicable loss of passwords for email accounts, prompting input of new email accounts that were already set up 43. Cumbersome dialing with no smartdial. No way to create a ‘Favourites’ list of phone contacts not smart in terms of name selections when typing in email contacts 44. Cannot save draft sms messages. does not remember most frequently used email addresses for contacts. 45. Call history only show phone number type. If a contact has multiple phone nos. for a type the number used is unknown. not syncing immediately, with intermittent good and bad push email notifications. 46. Cannot recognize phone numbers in sms or email to save or use as calling number. skype calls suck 47. Text messages can only be deleted one by one. photo editing is horrible 48. Cannot select multiple pictures for deleting, sending or uploading. They must be done one at a time. cant adjust fonts of SMS and IM 49. Notification for recurring events is only given once and none thereafter. One boring screen with all the apps 50. Apps are listed alphabetically with no way to group by category. Can be hard to find if you don’t remember the name. even normal press to open apps causes it to go into editing mode 51. Calendar scheduler has no weekly view and monthly view is non-zoomable. moving from month to month within calendar is laggy and stutters 52. No peak/off-peak scheduling for email downloads. alarm notifications require swiping up, how stupid is that? 53. If both wi-fi and data connection are available which one it chooses to use is unpredictable. User experiences don’t agree with Microsoft that it “typically” choose wi-fi over 3G. phone call requires swiping up, how stupid is that? |
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Wow, I knew WP phones has shortcomings,didnt know it's this many :eek:
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Either the N9 you have/had was a cheapo Chinese rip-off imitation or you simply couldn't fathom it out.
And making 'comparisons' such as this - 2. No Divx/Xvid video codec support. Zune will convert with loss of quality. Crappy USB port, plastic hinge and door that fall apart is simply nonsense |
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I can't say my N9 never lags, but when it does, what's really not that often, it lasts only a couple of seconds.. it's very smooth most of the time.
Maybe he has never seen an Android phone, which lags even with a dualcore. |
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This list is hard to believe. I played with a Lumia and did not find the phone interesting, just nothing for me.
But I was not aware that WP7 is that bad. Incredible. Kein, thanks for posting and linking to the source. And even more thanks to SamKB who originally posted this list on my-symbian.com. Once this list gets wide spread, it gets even tougher for Nokia / Flop / BoD to defend what they are doing. Simply unbelievable. |
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Your first point about multitasking.
You do realise nobody cares about this in the real world? No OS has multitasking like Maemo/MeeGo. So nobody other than us really know about it, therefore the majority couldnt give a monkeys about it.. Also you probably spent hours typing that up. Its a bit of a joke seriously. No phones are better then the other, just different, and peoples oppinions are what makes up the differences.. |
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haha lumiaman with his nonsense strikes back.... (hide before he trolls you)
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68 active users viewing this thread...lumiaman you've got your 5 minutes of fame...
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Haha, Lumiaman, you made me laugh!
Seriously, can´t remember when I read that much ******** in one single post! Whatever you take, please give me the same... Wanna try your little confused world, seems to be funny! Well, for an hour or two, that is... |
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Sadly I fear that there is more to come as he still has points 54-101 to post. If you are still reading this lumiaman, please forget this thread and let it die. Do us a favour, rise above it and move along :) |
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^ let's place bets on whether Lumiaman will counter with 54-101 or will he move along.
i know where my money will be going;) |
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who says nobody cares? LoL pointless
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You forgot
"No TV-out at all" All Nokia smartphones (N95, N79, etc) had it until the Lumias, they have nothing. |
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