[Council] Community Awards
 

Community Council is pleased to announce start of Community Awards program!



Community Awards (short. CA) are meant to be way of recognizing people, that, for months/years contributed - and continuously contribute - to Maemo Community. Unlike other programs, target audience of CA aren't only developers - suitable candidates include (also) dedicated testers, helpers, hardware modders, contributing participants of brainstorms and so goes on. Usually, it's a mix of all presented above.

From all submissions, Council will choose 25 winners, that will receive prize, from pool of 10 N950's and 15 N9's.

Rules for submissions are, as follows:

1. Receiving submissions will start at Monday, 28 May, 00:00 UTC. It will last for 3 weeks.

2. *Only* self-submissions are allowed, via community mailing list. Submissions may contain rationale - a short description about Your deeds for Community, but it's not required. Contributions of anyone submitting will be analyzed by Council, nevertheless.

3. Submission must contain info, if candidate is interested *only* in one particular type of prize (N950 or N9 - so, in case of not enough devices of preferred type, no prize), or if is going to be satisfied by any. also, submissions *must* contain link to TMO profile of candidate (or information about not being registered on TMO).

4. Community Awards are granted for past deeds, so no future projects/promises are considered by Council.

5. Someone, who received N950's in any form before (dev programs, etc) can't submit for/receive another one, but *can* submit for N9.

6. Winners will be chosen by Council in it's discretion, in no more than a week time (so, winners will be announced no more than four weeks after start of program).
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Community Council would like to say huge "Thank You" to every dedicated Maemo contributor!

Re: [Council]Community Awards
 

Estel, the Wiki page is already in place.

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@Estel
May I know what your criteria for judging will be? I won't be applying for any of those devices, I'm not worthy. hehe I just want to know how you will choose the recipients, especially since the decision lies in your hands.

(Was this discussed in a meeting? Can you please provide the link in your first post. Thanks!)

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There are many people in the maemo community, myself included, who are not subscribed to the mailing lists so if there is someone you feel deserves the community award please encourage them to register and apply. There is an online form to register for the mailing list at the link in the OP (which is https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/list...aemo-community). The community has benefited from many people who have worked selflessly for our benefit without asking for any reward. These people will probably be very shy on putting themselves forward. Personally, I know several people who have donated coding time, money, and other gifts to the community projects and asked to be anonymous. It's unfortunate we are not able to put the case forward on their behalf, so please if you know someone like this do encourage them to reach out for this opportunity :)

Oh you're much too modest Vetsin :p

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@Vetsin
Council will "segregate" candidates via their positive impact on maemo.org Community (as whole), and first 25 people will receive prizes. In any case, decision will be made via consensus, via internal discussions inside Council.

Community Awards is quite special, due to subjectivity of decisions-making, yet, people deserving device ale, generally, well known amongst Community members.
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As for details, it was discussed on maemo-community@maemo.org mailing list - in fact, even before new council was elected. I encourage You to read mailing list archive - surprisingly, there wasn't any single controversy about deciding process, so I hope announcing it on TMO won't create them - thus, won't validate major concern about TMO being "flamewars incubator" ;)

@kojacker
I also strongly encourage everyone to talk with ones You respect and think are deserving CA. Council decided, that nominations by 3rd party are going to bring more troubles and bad blood, than clean and transparent self-nominations.

/Estel

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What a great community, :)

sadly im not a developer, goodluck to all of you guys, long live maemo, :)

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The community awards are open to everyone ibrakalifa, not just developers :)

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Since I wasn't elected to the council, might as well apply ;)

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OMG, really? Tell me how to participate, please, :)

you all are amaziiiiing, :D

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Read the first post :)

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I´d love to get my hands on a N950, but to nominate myself as a community member that deserves one feels a bit odd, to say the least.

I mean, the last time I killed my neigbors kitten, in order to force him to give me his N950, I ended up with a pitbull hanging from my arm...

Why. not have nominees brought in by other members?

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I guess you didn't read the first post carefully :

"1. Receiving submissions will start at Monday, 28 May, 00:00 UTC. It will last for 3 weeks."

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is that mean i have to email them?

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The purpose of managing the Community Awards through mailing list is to avoid futile discussions here at TMO.

Please, for those who think that they deserve a device, read carefully the Wiki, take your time to subscribe to community mailing list if you are not already subscribed, and send a message beginning tomorrow Monday for the self nomination.

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im sorry then, im so excited, :)

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For a 4th N9? :D Well, not against the rules, but competition is going to be hard, I would say ;)

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I bought all those myselr, the N950 is on loan from a friend. So I am eligible.

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One thing we forgot in the announcement is that every self nomination should include the maemo.org username. Otherwise it would be very difficult to check the facts of some of the candidates.

Estel, I have updated the Wiki and added the first batch of self-nominees, could you add this question to the first post?.

Re: [Council]Community Awards
 

Well guys, we have already received quite a number of self nominations.

Please DO NOT edit the Wiki page by yourselves. Don't worry if you don't see youself at the Wiki page yet, any member of the Council will do that as we found some time to process the nominations.

Thanks to Andre for protecting the Wiki page ;)

Re: [Council]Community Awards
 

I think we should clarify that the community awards will be decided by two people and not the council as a whole. I, for one, volunteered to step aside because I will be requesting an award.

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Please bear in mind that this is not a lottery and the only people that will receive these awards will be those whose merits are well proven.

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whoever win the prize, wherever it will be sent, i hope maemo will continue to grow up and improved, not all dream can be come true, but dreams keep me alive, :)

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Wouldn't it be be better if council members just stepped aside for their own award nomination, but the entire council decided the rest?

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@lma
Sounds reasonable. We'll discuss this in next council meeting - completely stepping down (of submitting Councilors) from deciding was a way for maintaining transparency, but Your idea sounds like better option.

/Estel

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I (really) hate to say this, but the right way to handle this is for the whole council to be ineligible. Oh well, what's wrong with making your first important act in office distributing booty to a fellow member of the Power Elite? Never Mind...

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Or eligible by default. After all, the entire community believes these 5 individuals are valuable contributors, right?

Or perhaps we should put the awards to a community vote and put the council out of the difficult position of having to choose.

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good job there, got the best phone ever marketed by Nokia. N900.

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My post in this thread was deleted by someone :(

Is the it new hard dictator rules coming up? It's a new sheriff in town I guess.

I will nominate aenebacka for a n9 for the best/longest/fastest support of maemo/meego application.

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@geneven
Well, being ineligible was my my first proposition, even before election - at the correct place, where such serious things are discussed with reasonable people, i.e. mailing list.

To my pleasant surprise, 100% of feedback was like "there is no problem with councilor applying for device", and even few voices like "Councilors should receive devices by default, as without mentioned past contributions, they wouldn't be elected".

After all, there was 100% consensus, that submissions by Councilors are OK, and submitting Councilor should just step down from deciding about his own submissions. I've also asked qgil, and he haven't presented any objections.
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But, *of course*, it was predictable, that someone is going to create mini-dramas about it on TMO ;) Judging by Your comments for past few weeks/months, it seems, that You feel quite comfortable in trollish such shoes?

@Dave999
I don't know who deleted your post, but whoever did it, had much rationale to do so - You've not, apparently, spared 30 seconds to read about rules for submissions. BTW, congratulations on self-thanks, whichever way You achieved it ;)

/Estel

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I did, I nominated myself at first, but it was deleated, so I tried to nominate someone who deserves it more.

I have not contributed.

Good luck to you all!

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I actually tend to agree with that more personally....
Councillors could still nominate themselves ofc, as they're members of the community just like anyone else.
Except any councillors that aren't eligible, due to the conditions that have already been laid-down.

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So who got most friends in the community will get one for sure?

Evaluating someone's community (non-coding) effort first would be more suitable and not biased by promises or personal relationships.

For developers:
If someone ported or wrote a program for his/her own deeds I care less than if s/o started a community driven/requested project for the sake of all maemo users.

My 2c

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You did the right thing, Estel, to reach out and guage the community opinion but it's a little unfair to suggest geneven is trying to create a mini-drama, it's just a viewpoint :) When you reach out to the mailing list you're only reaching out to a small subset of the TMO community. So ofcourse when you post things here you're gonna get a lot more viewpoints :p Some will agree, some will disagree, some will agree to disagree, and some will troll.. it's a way of life on any forum :)

I agree that councillors deserve to be eligible as anyone else in the community. But honestly I was a little surprised at the 100% claim cos Ive seen posts on here unhappy about it so, cos Im nosey, I had a quick look in the mailing list archive to get a feeling of the support you found there. From what I can see, there were 3 positive responses who agreed (quoted below), and the second of these was from from a councillor who is also applying.

Your original message - http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/005259.html

Replies that mention whether council should be eligible or not:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/005262.html
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/005263.html
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/mae...ay/005264.html
So although there may indeed be "100% consensus", it appears to be 100% of 3 people out of the maemo.org community of 100s from a mailing list that is not particularly often used. So perhaps that's why you find it a more reasonable place :p

As i said, I feel councillors have the right to be eligible as anyone else, although at the same time I believe everyone should be judged on their merits - it's only fair. If you were to run a poll on TMO I'd say there'd be a lot of support for everyone to be eligible but (if you are basing your viewpoint on the thread you started in the mailing list) I don't feel you can take 3 positive responses as representative of the community as a whole though.

But i can understand it's tricky when you have people judging awards who are also eligible to apply for the same awards. It can be an emotive minefield and maybe you can't please everybody. So good luck with that :p But as long as the person on the council is not judging their own award application, and their application is judged fairly by the other council members, I don't see too much problem with that :)

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Was me! I am no new sheriff, I am no sheriff at all. Mod for +2years now and you be glad not to get infraction points for such post as my "this post is just garbage" limit is dropped low over past months

Nothing to be offended but this is a some kind of official thread and no regulars' table.

@Estel_ thread became sticky btw

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Modulo eligibility.

So they are community awards, but the community cannot be trusted (by whom?) to evaluate applicants? Do you feel the same way about the community council elections?

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Can you please explain how the candidates will be judged? Is this awarded based on the number/quality/popularity of apps created for Maemo/Meego? Or is programming ability ignored and only soft skills assessed?

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Please read the Announcement, the Wiki and the first post in this thread. Specially the subjects "candidates" and "criteria".

I can't think of any other way to make it more clear. Council will judge according to past (no promises/future plans) merits in any community activity (development, testing, modding, helping, documenting, participating...).

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This Friday, the Council will do a first evaluation of submissions and those that hadn't provide anything useful for the community will be discarded.

Discarded submissions, obviously, won't be allowed to be submitted again.

So, please to all that are sending self nominations talking about future plans or how much they love their devices, stop doing it. It's only time consuming and you won't receive a device just by a matter of luck.

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The List is allready quite full and "ready"... Maybe few top-dev's are not in there Yet but i can't imagine that anyone new newbies can incept self in.

There should be much more devices to give community, from Nokia...

my 2c.

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On the other hand, maemo-community@maemo.org is specified as official communication channel, where TMO is not (!). Also, there were 3 answers, but question was open for few weeks already, and mailing list - where much more people are subscribed - was open for presenting any other point of view.

Personally, I don't think TMO is a good place of any serious discussion re Community - see all "future of Maemo" threads, with it 50+ pages and 90% of nonsense content. I like TMO, but for such thing, I treat is as place to announce things + eventually receive feedback - mailing list seems *much* more competent for meritocratic discussions.

Re other questions about criteria etc - don't want to sound harsh, but agree with ivgalvez here, everything is specified in announcement in the most clear way possible. call it autocratic, dictator'ish, tyranny or whatever, but here it is, and won't be changed - there was a ~month for discussion (and, even on TMO, traces to discussion on mailing list were presented on "Summer `12 Device Program" thread, started by qgil.

/Estel