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nephridium 2012-06-01 04:04

Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
I've been following the release of the new Galaxy S III fairly closely and was constantly thinking to myself: this is how Nokia should have done it.

The Galaxy SIII was announced beginning May 2012 and released globally (sans the usual suspects) end of the same month. Then not even a week later the kernel source code is released to make the devs happy who had helped the predecessor become so successful).
Hardware wise you push for bleeding edge features in every significant category:
  • CPU: dual core Krait@1.5GHz or quad core Exynos@1.4GHz
  • Screen: currently highest resolution available for <5" (1280x720)
  • Flash memory: 16-64GB expandable via micro-SD
  • Battery: 2100mAh *user replaceable*
  • GPS+GLONASS
  • designed to allow for wireless charging

And THIS is how you create a vibrant "ecosystem" around it:
Samsung has outdone Nokia in producing a huge variety of models each targetted at a slightly different demographic/niche. They offer phones and tablets with 3", 3.5", 4", 4.3", 4.8", 5", 5.3", 7", 7.7", 8.9", 10.1" screens, some models have cheaper variants featuring only WIFI.

Some might say they are just throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks, but that is actually a viable strategy when new technologies arise - *if* you have the cash; which Samsung does (Nokia as well btw, at least up until recently). That way they can also experiment with new formats, e.g. like the Galaxy Note, a seemingly way oversized phone (phablet) with stylus that nonetheless became hugely popular especially in Asian markets).

Then on top of that you offer upgrade paths for the newest OS versions for those devices that support it and source code for the devs.

One thing Samsung and Nokia perform comparably though, is the somewhat mediocre presentation events of their new flagship devices (long-winded, unexciting, confusing for both, geeks and plebs).

Samsung is also the company that is pushing Tizen, so they have a contingency plan if their current Android strategy should ever go belly up.

I think this is the kind of vision many people would like to see from Nokia.

LavaCroft 2012-06-04 11:36

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Too bad that no matter how awesome its hardware is, it's still running a really, really awful operating system.

Wreck 2012-06-04 11:42

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
If only it wasn't that expensive.
And the only better OS is Maemo. IOS/WP and Blackberry are all way worse.

Quote:

dual core Krait@1.5GHz or quad core Exynos@1.4GHz
I haven't read alot about the S3, but are you able to buy different models?

Mize 2012-06-04 12:14

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Basically the LTE versions of the S3 have dual core Krait and are carrier subsidized. The Canadian LTE has 2 GB of RAM whereas all the others have 1 GB. The non-LTE "world" version is pentaband UMTS with the quad-core Exynos.

Dave999 2012-06-04 12:26

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
SGS3 is nothing... Wait for gnote ll. That will be top of the line in every match aspect.

ThraxZzz 2012-06-04 12:48

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Oh oh,its chuck norris :O

**** just got real >:)

zimon 2012-06-04 13:00

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Yes. I hope Nokia's general board members throw up when they watch Samsung going way ahead.

Nokia had all the chances, even better, but it blew it by submitting itself as a Microsoft slave. Either they (general board) were very stupid or highly incompetent, because at least everyone else knew the shortcoming in WP7 and the depressing 15 year of loser history of MS in the mobile world.

sophocha 2012-06-04 13:04

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it`s not actually bad....I like android 4.0....pinch to zoom in calendar, amazing email client....I`m actually for the 1st time since I got my N900 being thinking of replacing it with this phone.....that means that Samsung is doing an excellent job

ibrakalifa 2012-06-04 13:48

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this is how n9 should to be, monster spec with beautiful os, :)

Kangal 2012-06-04 14:24

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Norris (Post 1217239)
SGS3 is nothing... Wait for gnote ll. That will be top of the line in every match aspect.

Chuck Norris, please breathe life into my "concept":

MISC
-Android 4.0.3 (with New TouchWizz) -promised update to Android 4.1 JellyBean
-Easily rootable and no locked bootloader
-Pentaband HSPDA+ and LTE (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

SPECS
-Exynos 5xxx processor (32nm)
(Dualcore ARM A15 + Solocore ARM Cortex A7 = big.LITTLE computing!!!!!)
-1GB RAM Dual-Channel (surely more is better, but this is more than enough)
-New GPU either Mali-T604 or PowerVR SGX545MP4
-2,500mAh removable battery

FEATURES
-New 5.19" HD SAMOLED *Plus* display
-1280 x 800 resolution and Gorilla Glass2
-12MP Rear Lens (burst capture, face, smile detection, geotagging, panorama)
-Xenon LED flash
-2MP Front-facing camera (capable of HD-Skype)

CONNECTIVITY, ETC ETC
-32GB NAND
-microSD slot (upto 64GB) located above battery, not below (!!!!!!)
-Wifi bgn, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC
-aGPS, GLONASS, compass, barometre
-gyro, light sensor, proximity sensor
-Improved S PEN (!!!!!!!!!)
-Notifications light (!!!!!!!!!)
-Pass a 5V current to the MHL port so that USB-HOST is more compatible (!!!!!!!!!)
-Pass a 5V current to the MHL port so that HDMI doesn't need a power source (!!!!!!!!)

NEW DESIGN
-On-screen buttons (even smaller frame!!!!!!)
-New Stereo-Louspeaker located on front (like a BOSS!!!!!!!)
-New unibody/materials (brushed aluminium, kevlar etc etc)
-New dimensions: 127 x 73 x 8.8mm (44% smaller!!!)
http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_com...vs-Note2-vs-S2

-NEW NEW kickstand (covers the camera, protects lens from scratching!!!!!!!!)
-Kickstand props phone in landscape and portrait positions (!!!!!!)
-Kickstand made of metal that amplifies the telephone strength (like iPhone 4) without a need for a stronger radio and not closer to your head avoiding cellphone signal to brain. Also impossible to "antennagate" design(!!!!)
-Bulge on bottom allows phone to stay propped up
-When propped (standing) up vibration makes the phone dance like old Nokias(!!!!!)
-Bulge on bottom distributes weight better

Ending Notes:
Although the screen has been decreased, its only been decreased 7% so it isn't very noticeable. However, the overall device is now 44% smaller!!! That means its way more pocketable and much more manipulatable with one-hand usable. That's progress!


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/1540/note2c.jpg

Mize 2012-06-04 14:27

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Kangal, is that firm data? Do you know the release date?

Den in USA 2012-06-04 14:54

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I like the "wireless charging" feature. I have the solar powered Seiko watch that uses a super cap instead of a rechargable battery.

zimon 2012-06-04 16:54

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btw, is there a hot swappable battery in SGS3?
And, is there in any phone really yet? That would be very useful.
N900 has that kind of hack, but it is rather useless, without hardware mods which would increase the internal capacitor.

HELLASISGREECE 2012-06-04 17:06

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
So, TC, you want an Android Nokia device?

eeeekkkk!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LavaCroft (Post 1217227)
Too bad that no matter how awesome its hardware is, it's still running a really, really awful operating system.

This

Kangal 2012-06-05 11:55

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mize (Post 1217284)
Kangal, is that firm data? Do you know the release date?

Its not but it would be stellar if it was.

-Imagine a NOTE that slips easily out of your pocket and into your hands for a quick annotation with the S Pen.
-Then a friend arrives and comments on it....that's when you prop it up on a bench and show off with it dancing.
-Then another friend arrives and its a crowd. You load up a funny youtube video with the kickstand in landscape....and since the kickstand doubles as the antenna, you don't struggle in low signal areas.

I think the NOTE 2 is going to arrive between early September - late November. The carriers will likely delay it by another 3 months, but that's what Americans deserve for creating a phone contract monopoly system.

abill_uk 2012-06-05 12:12

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Glad to see another device being talked about on here and one thats a lot lot better than the N9 i might add.

I very like the note and like others cant wait for the new version, even the first one knocks spots off anything Nokia is churning out right now haha.

Dave999 2012-06-05 12:36

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1217839)
Glad to see another device being talked about on here and one thats a lot lot better than the N9 i might add.

I very like the note and like others cant wait for the new version, even the first one knocks spots off anything Nokia is churning out right now haha.

Strange? It's newer aswell. Still clueless troll :D

Better for you maybe but not for everyone.

Keep it coming.

zimon 2012-06-06 12:30

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Way to go Samsung!

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-...latinum-member
Quote:

We are pleased to announce that Samsung is joining The Linux Foundation at the Platinum level. This is the highest level of support at The Linux Foundation and represents Samsung’s commitment to and understanding of the value of Linux and collaborative development.
...

* Samsung is collaborating with Intel and others to build mobile devices and more using Tizen and other Linux-based software.
...

The world’s largest device maker is investing so much in Linux because it understands the power of collaborative development and its role in today’s technology market. Market winners are being defined by their ability to collaborate. Period.



nephridium 2012-06-07 04:47

Re: Galaxy S III - THIS is how you release your flagship device
 
Yep, another strategic step that makes sense. It takes an investment of 500,000 USD to become platinum member and gets you a seat at the foundation's board of directors and thus more insight and influence in anything Linux including Tizen.

If Android ever goes sour once Googorola make their own devices Samsung still has an alternative.

Yet another thing Nokia is missing out on while contemplating *their* windows phone strategy.

The other day I saw two people buying iPhones and I was thinking, damn, this brand loyality is freaking me out: they could have just as easily gotten the GS3 which compared to the iPhone was:
  • newer (one week vs 8 months)
  • faster
  • slimmer
  • lighter
  • had bigger screen (>300ppi)
  • more battery life
  • replaceable battery
  • more memory (SD card slot)
  • NFC
  • oh, and no glass back cover that can break (GS3 back cover can be bent 180 degrees without breaking)
Yet, they only had eyes for the iPhones.

These are the realities, certain people (with disposable income) don't want to bother about finding out about current technology and instead opt for being spoon fed. Apple has skillfully caged in that target demographic. The problem with WP is that is has a very similar target demographic, but with an inferior product. Samsung on the other hand utilizes the versatility of Android, refrains from locking it down and creates a barrage of products aiming at many different demographics from prince to pauper, techie to non-techie.

With Maemo/Meego Nokia could have done this too, probably even better, but alas, their management were too closed-minded.


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