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gvid 2012-06-01 18:29

My app manager doesnt work
 
Please help me!! :(
I added 2 new catalogues to my app manager.

Catalogue Name: maemo.org extras testing
Catalogue Name: maemo.org extras devel

Then i updated my app manager.But I hadn't any time to install apps.So after few mins I opened the app manager.But it tells

"operation failed"

And I checked the log.

hildon-application-manager 2.2.35-3
write: Broken pipe
write: Broken pipe
apt-worker exited.
apt-worker: can't truncate lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock: No space left on device
read: Bad file descriptor
apt-worker is not running


Now im fed up with reading threads to find the solution for my problem.I cant install or unstall apps.
And my phone always tells that

"unble to receive or send new massages
Device storage is full
Remove data to free memory"


But there are 965.1mb for installable apps.And 2.72gb available in my phne .:confused:

I have rebooted my phone several times..But it doesn't work.:(
I bought this phone in this year and im new to this device.

please please help me with step by step instructions..

ramsheed 2012-06-01 18:53

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gvid (Post 1216089)
Please help me!! :(
I added 2 new catalogues to my app manager.

Catalogue Name: maemo.org extras testing
Catalogue Name: maemo.org extras devel

Then i updated my app manager.But I hadn't any time to install apps.So after few mins I opened the app manager.But it tells

"operation failed"

And I checked the log.

hildon-application-manager 2.2.35-3
write: Broken pipe
write: Broken pipe
apt-worker exited.
apt-worker: can't truncate lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock: No space left on device
read: Bad file descriptor
apt-worker is not running


Now im fed up with reading threads to find the solution for my problem.I cant install or unstall apps.
And my phone always tells that

"unble to receive or send new massages
Device storage is full
Remove data to free memory"


But there are 965.1mb for installable apps.And 2.72gb available in my phne .:confused:

I have rebooted my phone several times..But it doesn't work.:(
I bought this phone in this year and im new to this device.

please please help me with step by step instructions..


Install faster application manager using x terminal with apt-get command.... it will work

michaaa62 2012-06-01 18:53

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Your rootfs is full. You might look at it yourself with this simple command
Code:

df
Try to free some space by disabling extras-testing and extras-devel catalogues. Then you might search the wiki for the moveroot.sh script to gain some more free space.
You might then analyze the biggest space wasters with
Code:

du -a / | sort -n | tail -n 50

sicelo 2012-06-01 19:02

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
I would also advise that you forget about using extras-devel repo.. usually a bad idea if you don't know what you are doing (no offence, but that's what you said i first post)

sifo 2012-06-01 19:09

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
here is the wiki page to make sure you find it and did you ever tried to extract an archive with x-terminal ?

gvid 2012-06-02 04:35

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1216095)
Your rootfs is full. You might look at it yourself with this simple command
Code:

df
Try to free some space by disabling extras-testing and extras-devel catalogues. Then you might search the wiki for the moveroot.sh script to gain some more free space.
You might then analyze the biggest space wasters with
Code:

du -a / | sort -n | tail -n 50

Thank you michaaa62..you are correct.my rootfs is full.
Actually I cant disable those catalogues as my phne do not show any catalogues now.
I tried the wiki page.

Clear apt cache

Run following command (has to be done as root)

apt-get clean


plz tell me whats the meanin of "has to be done as root"

gvid 2012-06-02 04:49

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sifo (Post 1216106)
here is the wiki page to make sure you find it and did ever tried to extract an archive with x-terminal ?

Thank you very much sifo for the link..
Actually i hvnt any experince with x terminal.No i never tried to extract an archive with x-terminal.
plz help me with that wiki page.
when i try to clear the apt cache(i dont know hw to do it as a root)
x-terminal says
"E: could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archieves/lock- open(13 permission denied)
E:Unable to lock the downloaded directly"
:confused: :confused:

should i entr sudo gainroot code to do it as a root.
Then it says enable RD mode if you want to break ur device.
I havnt installed Rootsh. :(
plz help me..

gvid 2012-06-02 04:57

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ramsheed (Post 1216094)
Install faster application manager using x terminal with apt-get command.... it will work

Thank you ramsheed.
bt i dnt know how to do it. :confused:

gvid 2012-06-02 05:07

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qhubekela (Post 1216102)
I would also advise that you forget about using extras-devel repo.. usually a bad idea if you don't know what you are doing (no offence, but that's what you said i first post)

You are corrct qhubekela.Thank you.
I just add those catalogues and i didnt thought it can be a harm.Actually im new to this device.so you know curiosity :D

sifo 2012-06-02 05:53

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
@gvid
Quote:

E: could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archieves/lock- open(13 permission denied)
E:Unable to lock the downloaded directly"
when you want to use x-terminal with apt\dpkg dont open application manager at the same time it must be closed .

Quote:

plz tell me whats the meanin of "has to be done as root"
do you have rootsh installed ?

./sifo

gvid 2012-06-02 06:06

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Thanks sifo..
no i hvnt installed rootsh
I tried it without openin app manager.It tells the same thing
plz help me..:confused:

sifo 2012-06-02 06:18

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
now you are stuck.
did you tried to reboot the device ? or go to application manager and click on refresh and wait untill it done .

./sifo

gvid 2012-06-02 06:36

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
yes.i rebootet it for several times.nothing happens..
how to refresh it.There's no such thing. :( help me please.
thank in advance.

sifo 2012-06-02 06:44

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
go to HAM (hildon application manager ) and not FAM ( faster application manager ) :D and click on download then click on top bar then refresh and if it works and refreshing do not stop it and wait :)

./sifo

gvid 2012-06-02 07:05

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
I refreshed it sifo..
it tells that no catalogs in use.

sifo 2012-06-02 07:16

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
did you tried to remove some applications ? and what you have installed on your N900 ?

./sifo

gvid 2012-06-02 07:29

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
how can i install or unstall any apps without the app manager?
i have installed some games some themes and some small apps like liqtorch,moobox....

sifo 2012-06-02 07:33

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
ok before removing the apps go and clear you conversations then re-open HAM and refresh

and go to x-terminal and type :
df -h /

then you will see an output . how much used space you got ?

davdav 2012-06-02 07:43

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
i think the only way to solve this is to install rootshm and since you cant so anyone cant help you here
i suggest disable all repos and search google how to add them again and if that worked install rootsh
if not then google ''rootsh.dep for n900'' and download it to your phone and just click on it via file manager
wish you the best :)

sifo 2012-06-02 07:49

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
@davdav

if the application manager cant read the catalogues then i guess he cant just install rootsh and there is no space !

davdav 2012-06-02 07:59

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
he have to delete all repos 1st

sifo 2012-06-02 08:01

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
please read the first post :)

peterleinchen 2012-06-02 08:07

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gvid (Post 1216089)
Please help me!! :(
I added 2 new catalogues to my app manager.

Catalogue Name: maemo.org extras devel

WTF did you enable devel (devil) repo? Especially when you do not know what "root" is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvid (Post 1216089)
Now im fed up with reading threads to find the solution for my problem.
please please help me with step by step instructions..

And I am totally fed up with such attitude!
GTF and educate yourself.

Sorry for that little rant, but there are hundreds of warnings about devel and rootsh and so on.
And even there lots of threads with same/similar problems.
You did the harm to your device, so do not expect me to spoon fed you.

Enable R&D Mode with flasher, do apt-get clean (this will remove some space from rootfs), and then deinstall the most not-optified programs.
I think you bought the device second-hand and the former owner installed a lot of non-optified stuff.
Easiest thing would be to do a full reflash.

What PR is that device running?
What does "dpkg -l" give as output.
Or easier "dpkg -l > MyDocs/packages.txt". Upload this list and maybe some guy will check it.

gvid 2012-06-02 08:12

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
i cleared the conversations.no free space.227.9mb is used. :(

sifo 2012-06-02 08:18

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
go to sittings and click on top bar and then clear device this will remove all apps but do backup your contacts first !

./sifo

michaaa62 2012-06-02 08:20

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
You will have to trash your desktops :(
Try to disable as many widgets, starters, try to cleanup some of your conversations.
Reboot and try to get to the Hildon Application Manager to disable the two offending repositories (catalogues), they do not bring the breakage, but right now are wasted space, because the lists are too large for your rootfs.
Try to paste the logs, if HAM gives you errors again, and the output of
Code:

df > /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/debug.txt
du -a / | sort -n | tail -n 20 >> /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/debug.txt

The second command is a 'bastard' to type, try to use copy and paste.
This will create a file called debug.txt in your Documents folder. Try to attach that file to your next post, if errors occur.

However, if you now have access to HAM fully working, you should install rootsh, to have the opportunity to gain root rights. Try to remove some applications that right now are not essential to you, do not worry about your personal setting, they are not removed from /home/user, which is not affected by the space issue.

Follow some of the procedures of the wiki page, like installing pymaemo-optify and using the move-to-opt.sh script.
If these step might be applied successfully, you are ready to reinstall the applications are ready to roll again.
Good luck!

sixwheeledbeast 2012-06-02 09:12

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD SEARCH THE WIKI'S MORE.
and I don't shout often....

Information on Freeing Rootfs

Information about extras (including warnings about devel and testing)

By the time you've finished playing with devel/testing and fixing what's broken you will need this.
This will make you phone fast like new.

Please don't use Testing and Development repos unless you understand them. They are not merely more applications, there application that will probably brick your phone.

davdav 2012-06-02 09:14

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1216304)
WTF did you enable devel (devil) repo? Especially when you do not know what "root" is?


And I am totally fed up with such attitude!
GTF and educate yourself.

Sorry for that little rant, but there are hundreds of warnings about devel and rootsh and so on.
And even there lots of threads with same/similar problems.
You did the harm to your device, so do not expect me to spoon fed you.


Enable R&D Mode with flasher, do apt-get clean (this will remove some space from rootfs), and then deinstall the most not-optified programs.
I think you bought the device second-hand and the former owner installed a lot of non-optified stuff.
Easiest thing would be to do a full reflash.

What PR is that device running?
What does "dpkg -l" give as output.
Or easier "dpkg -l > MyDocs/packages.txt". Upload this list and maybe some guy will check it.

he is a new user you just cant treat him like this ..
Remember when you were a new user ..
Just help him ..

gvid 2012-06-02 10:36

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
thank you michaaa62
i have no widgets on my desktops
i cleared 90% of my conversations
i rebooted it.but i cant open the app manager.the same log displays.

hildon-application-manager 2.2.35-3
write: Broken pipe
write: Broken pipe
apt-worker exited.
apt-worker: can't truncate lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock: No space left on device
read: Bad file descriptor
apt-worker is not running

i copy and pasted ur code
1st line is ok.bt when i entr the 2nd lne it tells newline unexpected
then 1 entred 3rd line.it tells _sh: /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/debug.txt: permission denied

i didnt try the wiki page things yet.
im working on it now.

gvid 2012-06-02 10:58

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Thank you sixwheeledbeast for your links.
problem is some of those codes do not work without that app rootsh.
and im nt good in x-terminal..bt im trying..

michaaa62 2012-06-02 13:47

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
Try to find, 'what is yours', to eliminate some file the hard way, BUT please keep track of what you move.

First make sure, that your data partition is mount and working. The command
Code:

mount
must have a line like this
Quote:

/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,exec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,ut f8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0000, rodir)
Then find and sort everything that is belonging to the user.
Code:

find / -xdev -path /proc -prune -o -user user > /home/user/user.txt
du -a $(</home/user/user.txt) | sort -n | tail -20

Note: These are two lines of code, not more!

davdav 2012-06-02 13:52

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
i think the only way to get off this just download the rootsh.dep and click on it via filemanager
i am not browsing from my N900 thats why i cant upload it for you
Good luck :)

sifo 2012-06-02 13:55

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
1 Attachment(s)
here is rootsh anyway....
David my friend when you want a package from repos go to here and you know the rest ;)

after a conversation with gvid he discoverd that he want to reflash because of he dont have pr-1.3 ! :)

davdav 2012-06-02 14:03

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
sifo i know my friend but i am using a dumb symbian n97 phone now thats why i cant fully browse :D

sifo 2012-06-02 14:05

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
ah sorry i missed understanding your post i realized that after posting :D excuse me :)

gvid 2012-06-04 13:07

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
problem solved
i flashed my phone. :)
i did it with the help of sifo.thank you so much
Also i should be thankful to all you guys
sifo
michaaa62
davdav
peterleinchen
sixwheeledbeast
ramsheed
qhubekela

Thank you all for the help.. :) :)

sixwheeledbeast 2012-06-04 13:23

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
You were better to start from fresh.
Good job.

sifo 2012-06-04 13:27

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
nice to see good progress ;) im glad i could help :)

davdav 2012-06-04 14:26

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
we are always here just post and we will answer ;)
happy for you ;)

peterleinchen 2012-06-04 19:07

Re: My app manager doesnt work
 
So am I.


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