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wiicked 2012-06-23 22:23

Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Hello!

Last week I found out I've sent some spam (weight loss pills) to a some ppl. I'm suspecting that they were sent from my nokia n900 since I'm always logged in to my hotmail using the native email client.

Why suspect they were coming from my N900 is that my computer wasn't on during this time. I've looked thru the outbox but I can't find any of those emails there.

Have any one else had similar problems with their N900??

Since then I've changed my password.
But is it possible for another application to use the email client to send out spam??

sifo 2012-06-23 22:31

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
dude leave hotmail alone it can easly be hacked ;)

sixwheeledbeast 2012-06-23 22:36

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
I would think someone is spoofing using your address.

Hotmail has fairly decent security, IMO.

wiicked 2012-06-23 22:38

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sifo (Post 1226495)
dude leave hotmail alone it can easly be hacked ;)

Yeah, I know.. but usually that involves changing password in the process, and it wasn't changed.

I'm not suspecting my hotmail being hacked. Since I rarely use my hotmail on my computer. I just use it on the N900..

I'm trying backtrack were it was sent from..

Any clues?

wiicked 2012-06-23 22:41

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1226498)
I would think someone is spoofing using your address.

Hotmail has fairly decent security, IMO.

Don't think it's spoofed either, message details says it was sent from a hotmail server.

geneven 2012-06-23 22:44

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiicked (Post 1226493)
Hello!

Last week I found out I've sent some spam (weight loss pills) to a some ppl. I'm suspecting that they were sent from my nokia n900 since I'm always logged in to my hotmail using the native email client.

Why suspect they were coming from my N900 is that my computer wasn't on during this time. I've looked thru the outbox but I can't find any of those emails there.

Have any one else had similar problems with their N900??

Since then I've changed my password.
But is it possible for another application to use the email client to send out spam??

This has nothing to do with your N900. Your Hotmail account has been hacked. This happened with many Yahoo Mail accounts. Passwords over a certain age weren't secure. I believe you could even have changed the password back to THE SAME PASSWORD and that would have still solved the problem because it was the obsolete way the password was kept thay allowed a spammer to trigger a message being sent to your contacts.

I am not an expert, and the above is an approximation of the story as I understand it.

wiicked 2012-06-23 22:57

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 1226503)
This has nothing to do with your N900. Your Hotmail account has been hacked. This happened with many Yahoo Mail accounts. Passwords over a certain age weren't secure. I believe you could even have changed the password back to THE SAME PASSWORD and that would have still solved the problem because it was the obsolete way the password was kept thay allowed a spammer to trigger a message being sent to your contacts.

I am not an expert, and the above is an approximation of the story as I understand it.

Yeah I really hope so. But would it be able for any other software/application to use the native email client for sending emails?

sixwheeledbeast 2012-06-23 22:57

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiicked (Post 1226502)
Don't think it's spoofed either, message details says it was sent from a hotmail server.

Spoof via the hotmail server
telnet mx1.hotmail.com 25


I think you have been spoofed or hacked.

If you have changed your password and the messages stopped, i'd guess the latter.

wiicked 2012-06-23 23:06

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1226507)
Spoof via the hotmail server
telnet mx1.hotmail.com 25


I think you have been spoofed or hacked.

If you have changed your password and the messages stopped, i'd guess the latter.

Yup, messages stopped. But sending out mail about weight loosing pills to two female colleagues wasn't a hit. lol.

But can anyone confirm that no other app can use my native email client?

sifo 2012-06-23 23:25

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
no app can use your native email client :) never happend with me and i think you will be asked from the app for permission if so ;)

wiicked 2012-06-23 23:38

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sifo (Post 1226514)
no app can use your native email client :) never happend with me and i think you will be asked from the app for permission if so ;)

Ok, thanks. Then I can start using my mail again :)

sifo 2012-06-24 00:04

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
you are welcome ;)

geneven 2012-06-24 01:55

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiicked (Post 1226506)
Yeah I really hope so. But would it be able for any other software/application to use the native email client for sending emails?

When you changed the password, you made it impossible for any prrogram to use the same trick to message your contacts, I think, and also impossible to send messages from that account under your name.

I also think that the people who used the trick have no way of knowing who the trick worked on, the only way they know it worked on anyone is because the volume of messages at the 'lose weight now!' or whatever site goes up. They just sent a bunch of messages at Hotmail and caught some victims.

electroaudio 2012-06-24 09:19

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiicked (Post 1226509)
But can anyone confirm that no other app can use my native email client?

It is highly unlikely that a spammer should learn the secrets of the N900 and use those few N900s that exist to do a spamattack, when the world is filled with windows machines and other happy victims.

But except for that, a dbuscall to

--dest=com.nokia.modest /com/nokia/modest com.nokia.modest.MailTo string:"mailto:"

Can create a new mail.

But for a spammer both to get the idea to investigate the N900 beyond that (Not only to create the mail but also to send it witout the users help) and to explicitly target N900s "com.nokia.modest" for such a nicheproduct as a N900 to send spam is highly unlikely...

Virusmakers,spammers and similar want their programs to be effective, and to explicitly target the extremly small part of the traffic done by N900s on internet is just a big waste of time.
-Malware cant even be spread effectively when the platforms marketshare is so low.

nodevel 2012-06-24 11:15

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Well, Hotmail... :)

I recommend using GMail's 2-step-verification. It requires typing a code received by SMS when you log in from different machine than usual. Also, it generates special code for each app, so it is almost impossible for anyone to hack your account.

wiicked 2012-06-27 01:19

Re: Suspecting my N900 sending out spam mail
 
Yeah I know Hotmail sucks..

But I have the previligie to have my email ID as
name.surname@hotmail.com. I can't get that on gmail :(

Also, I don't think my emai was spoofed, since it sent out emails to my contacts.

So I guess it was hacked. I was just intrigued by my mail being hacked. It has never happened to me before.

Anyway.. thanks all for uour help and input.
Greatly appreciated! :)


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