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slashd0t 2012-07-08 18:32

My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but, the N9 is terrible at streaming audio... I often listen to digital fm (256kb stream) and the N9 is stutters terribly and is constantly buffering... The odd time my N9 will be in a good mood and I will get 5 mins with few issues, but, this is just unacceptable in a modern smartphone..

In contrast, I've had zero issues streaming with my HTC One X and I had no issues with my old N8..

Anyone else struggle with this?

charbar 2012-07-08 19:17

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
hmm, can't say I have that issue.

i stream audio via the internet radio player and spotify with absolutely no problems

lancewex 2012-07-08 19:35

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Same sim card, same APN settings?

vittoriob4 2012-07-08 22:28

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
over BT? If yes, same here

slashd0t 2012-07-08 22:36

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Yes, same sim and apn (always on wifi anyways)..

I'm usually streaming it via BT to my Play 360. Keeps "buffering".. I wish there was a way to maybe try to increase the buffer size..

HELLASISGREECE 2012-07-08 22:45

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
My bigest annoyance with the N9 is the lack of FM transmitter : /

* But I knew that before I bought it, so : )

isfr21 2012-07-08 23:06

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slashd0t (Post 1234089)
Yes, same sim and apn (always on wifi anyways)..

I'm usually streaming it via BT to my Play 360. Keeps "buffering".. I wish there was a way to maybe try to increase the buffer size..

Yup, it's the biggest problem in N9 from the beginning. What you're experiencing is the problem of simultaneously utilizing Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. The N9 is currently incapable of using both and thus reproduces constant stuttering or data issues. Turn off bluetooth when streaming and you'll be fine.

slashd0t 2012-07-08 23:24

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isfr21 (Post 1234103)
Yup, it's the biggest problem in N9 from the beginning. What you're experiencing is the problem of simultaneously utilizing Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. The N9 is currently incapable of using both and thus reproduces constant stuttering or data issues. Turn off bluetooth when streaming and you'll be fine.

Interesting... Now that you mention it, when I get the 5 mins if playing, I'm usually on headphones...

Going to test tonight.. IF this is the case, I guess I can always just use the line in on the 360.. Kinda annoying though...

gerbick 2012-07-08 23:29

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isfr21 (Post 1234103)
Yup, it's the biggest problem in N9 from the beginning. What you're experiencing is the problem of simultaneously utilizing Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. The N9 is currently incapable of using both and thus reproduces constant stuttering or data issues. Turn off bluetooth when streaming and you'll be fine.

This is a problem for me in another unique way. I typically use a bluetooth earpiece to keep both hands free when I type and I use an AT&T Microcell for the most part - which alleviates some of the problem of wifi and bluetooth at the same time issues since it's basically a 3G repeater.

But when I'm out and the wifi picks up a signal stronger than my 3G signal, I get problems.

isfr21 2012-07-08 23:49

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Yeah I wish they'd fix that already. My N9 is my main media device so anytime I go in my car it automatically connects to car's BT and I stream audio to my car. Easiest method for me but anytime the N9 decides to scan for Wi-Fi the audio drops out and stutters and when it fully resumes the quality is diminished for some reason. Audio sounds crackly.

I heard that updating the BT stack protocols to support BT 4.0 is now closer to reality I think cause Linux is receiving that update or something. I don't know for sure but maybe that'll fix the problem hopefully.

Speaking of audio streaming: the N9 doesn't support metadata like song info. My brother's iPhone properly displays song info on my car when streaming audio through BT but the N9 sadly does not. It's really a simple update which also should've been done.

slashd0t 2012-07-09 01:20

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
So I tested tonight and it works fine if I stream use the line in instead of BT.. Annoying to say the least..

gerbick 2012-07-09 01:27

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isfr21 (Post 1234124)
I heard that updating the BT stack protocols to support BT 4.0 is now closer to reality I think cause Linux is receiving that update or something. I don't know for sure but maybe that'll fix the problem hopefully.

I just asked about this in another thread. BT4.0 is sorely needed; but I doubt that the issue(s) with wifi+BT will be resolved in this manner.

You don't know how much I want to be wrong on this one though.

pataphysician 2012-07-09 04:08

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Weird, I have zero problems streaming Soma.fm on wifi while listening with my Stereo Bluetooth headphones on my N9. I just did a test and was streaming Soma.fm while also downloading the City scene App from Ovi Store while also switching between two browser sessions to keep in constant use of maximum bandwidth of my wifi, and had zero problems at all.

Are you guys sure you don't have some kind of subtle hardware issue?

slashd0t 2012-07-09 04:27

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pataphysician (Post 1234170)
Weird, I have zero problems streaming Soma.fm on wifi while listening with my Stereo Bluetooth headphones on my N9. I just did a test and was streaming Soma.fm while also downloading the City scene App from Ovi Store while also switching between two browser sessions to keep in constant use of maximum bandwidth of my wifi, and had zero problems at all.

Are you guys sure you don't have some kind of subtle hardware issue?

I've had two N9's and both suffered the exact same issue... iPhone/HTC OneX/Nokia N8 etc all had/have zero issues..

pataphysician 2012-07-09 04:40

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slashd0t (Post 1234171)
I've had two N9's and both suffered the exact same issue... iPhone/HTC OneX/Nokia N8 etc all had/have zero issues..

I have another N9 which I use for testing and tried on that with no problems as well. Could it be the combination of N9 and specific bluetooth speaker/headsets?, I am using a motorola s10-HD, I have some other stereo bluetooth headsets I might pull out and try just to see what happens.

taviman 2012-07-09 04:47

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
i also.have zero issues with BT playing a WiFi stream. However, it could be related to the “volume” of the stream, and therefore could be related with some settings of the router. The router hardware quality can play a key role as well so it won't increase the load on the n9 antenna.
just saying.

thedead1440 2012-07-09 05:04

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
could it be a made in China and made in Finland difference?
my China n9 has no issues but rainisto clearly says that you cant have one antenna doing both jobs at the same time. Could others share their production make?

slashd0t 2012-07-09 13:28

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taviman (Post 1234174)
i also.have zero issues with BT playing a WiFi stream. However, it could be related to the “volume” of the stream, and therefore could be related with some settings of the router. The router hardware quality can play a key role as well so it won't increase the load on the n9 antenna.
just saying.


If it works fine on my old iPhone 4 and my Wife's iPhone 4s + my HTC One X there is no way I'm blaming my router for it.. The issue is with the N9.

Also, if I'm not connected via BT (just using headphones) it streams just fine.. Tested last night for about an hour where I listened @ 256 with only 1 buffer interruption..

slashd0t 2012-07-09 13:28

Re: My biggest annoyance with the N9
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pataphysician (Post 1234173)
I have another N9 which I use for testing and tried on that with no problems as well. Could it be the combination of N9 and specific bluetooth speaker/headsets?, I am using a motorola s10-HD, I have some other stereo bluetooth headsets I might pull out and try just to see what happens.


I'm using a Nokia Play 360..


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