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skyleth 2012-07-12 14:29
high idle consumption
 
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Is this normal? Sorry about the size but i'm from the n9

ZiiimZooon 2012-07-12 14:37
Re: high idle consumption
 
Totally not normal.. What do you have open at that time? ;)

nieldk 2012-07-12 14:48
Re: high idle consumption
 
did you install 'battery widget'?

godofwar424 2012-07-12 17:19
Re: high idle consumption
 
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA

ZiiimZooon 2012-07-12 17:32
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1236643)
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA
Pretty cool :p My normal idle usage is 7 - 10 mA ;)

skyleth 2012-07-12 18:08
Re: high idle consumption
 
i'll try as soon as i get home. Thanks to all

skyleth 2012-07-12 18:52
Re: high idle consumption
 
i had openned wazapp and google talk, two convrrsations, nothing more.

i can't find battery widget in nokia store, n9apps, meecatalog or meego apps. The only thing related to battery that i have is battery icon and energy profile.

i'm gonna use the command you posted before and lets see what happens.

zlatko 2012-07-12 19:00
Re: high idle consumption
 
@skyleth
Battery Icon can be the culprit for higher consumption as well. Check this: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/20...nd-smartsearch

rooster13 2012-07-12 20:18
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1236702)
@skyleth
Battery Icon can be the culprit for higher consumption as well. Check this: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/20...nd-smartsearch
One of the best posts in months dude!
Thank you so much for sharing that link.

I immediately unistalled Battery Icon and am monitoring what effect removing it had.

godofwar424 2012-07-12 21:12
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1236702)
@skyleth
Battery Icon can be the culprit for higher consumption as well. Check this: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/20...nd-smartsearch
Thats where I saw the command I posted :p

Although that command helped me ALOT even though I dont have the battery icon installed.

godofwar424 2012-07-12 21:12
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZiiimZooon (Post 1236651)
Pretty cool :p My normal idle usage is 7 - 10 mA ;)
Yeah, I have 3 mfe accounts updating all the time and fb/twitter every half an hour with heavy text usage and occasional phone calls and not to mention Wazapp running in the background.

taviman 2012-07-13 05:34
Re: high idle consumption
 
I have the battery widget from the beginning, but have seen such a high idle value only once or twice, and it wasn't related to the battery widget .
After PR 1.3, I was surprised to see a significant drop on consumption both idle and usage.
The best advice I can give is to use the 2g network, that is the biggest power saver.

JadHusin 2012-07-16 11:20
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1236643)
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA
I tried that command. It says that no such file or directory. I don't have the battery widget/battery icon installed. My average consumption is 50mAh - 67mAh. I'm using 2G network. Please help me T_T

skyleth 2012-07-19 03:14
Re: high idle consumption
 
Thanks to all. Now I have an average idle consumption of 10mAh. I uninstalled battery icon and used the commands. Almost everything works perfect in pr1.3

bnwg 2012-07-19 16:38
Re: high idle consumption
 
I don't have battery icon installed. 3 gmail accounts updating all time and wazapp running in the background.

average idle: 70 - 100mA (3G), 40 - 60mA (2G), 7 - 10mA (wifi)

Tried the disable SmartSearch code but no significant reduction in ave idle.

Use top to check, nothing really consuming CPU over 1%.

3G is killer obviously but is this normal with ave idle around 70-100mA?

kai_en 2012-07-22 02:45
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1236643)
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA
Does this command disable the search function in the search app, I just tried doing a search in the search app, nothing pops up, the progress squircle kept circling and circling.

If so, how do I undo the command?

EDIT : Doesn't matter, I just changed the - into + haha

Manatus 2012-07-22 07:11
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bnwg (Post 1239859)
3G is killer obviously but is this normal with ave idle around 70-100mA?
No, I have 7-10 mA usage with 3g. However it really depends on location and radio conditions. Having the power usage that high means that your phone might be constantly searching for better 3g APs for your location, or constantly switching between two or more APs. When boosting for better signal and for locating surrounding APs the 3g radio can use 100-150 mA.

Note that more APs in the surrounding area may cause more problems than having only one.

It may also help to switch 3g only in case that your phone is constantly on the verge of switching to 2g and keeping the radio logic busy, although that probably ends up with disconnecting phone calls more easily.

bnwg 2012-07-22 07:54
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manatus (Post 1241092)
No, I have 7-10 mA usage with 3g. However it really depends on location and radio conditions. Having the power usage that high means that your phone might be constantly searching for better 3g APs for your location, or constantly switching between two or more APs. When boosting for better signal and for locating surrounding APs the 3g radio can use 100-150 mA.

Note that more APs in the surrounding area may cause more problems than having only one.

It may also help to switch 3g only in case that your phone is constantly on the verge of switching to 2g and keeping the radio logic busy, although that probably ends up with disconnecting phone calls more easily.
The 70-100mA is in 3G only mode. I think u absolutely point to the correct factor that my device is always searching/switching APs for any reasons. Seems I need to live with that and try to connect to wifi whre possible.

skyjumper 2012-07-22 08:42
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1236643)
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA
I did this and it halved my avg battery useage to around 9mA. Freakin fantastic!!

shemoz 2012-08-31 16:16
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofwar424 (Post 1236643)
I have found that after having high idle usage.

I searched and found a command that disabled SmartSearch from doing its CPU consuming rubbish, here is the command, it may help :)

Code:
devel-su
rootme
chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch
/sbin/reboot
Your device will reboot and then play around and check out if your Idle decreases, it has dramatically descreased my Idle usage, from 50-60mA to 14-23mA
HOW to do it, please guide me, Thanks.

Nad 2012-08-31 16:35
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shemoz (Post 1258605)
HOW to do it, please guide me, Thanks.
Enable dev mode from settings then fire up terminal from the homescreen and type in those commands, 1 per line...

shma 2012-09-03 19:10
Re: high idle consumption
 
You got to be kidding. Open terminal (settings security developer for enabling terminal) after that is done and well write his commands in the terminal line by line

henry91 2012-09-04 01:19
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZiiimZooon (Post 1236651)
Pretty cool :p My normal idle usage is 7 - 10 mA ;)
mine was 4-10mA depending on apps opened on background :D

Kroll 2012-09-11 07:56
Re: high idle consumption
 
Hello there. Mine Consumption (according to Battery usage) was about 190 mA. I have used a command above to disable powersearch and I have removed Battery Icon and now my Avg current consumption is 115 mA. Actually it is still going down every 5 minutes and now it is 106 mA. Is it normal?

My avg Idle consumption is 23 mA. I don't remember how it was before I did all my steps I mentioned in this post.
Thanks in advance.

upd: it still goes down and now it is 86 for Avg current consumption and 20 mA for Avg Idle Consumption. Can a brightness level exert influence on consumption?

cevenn 2012-09-11 19:16
Re: high idle consumption
 
Be careful:
Disable SmartSearch disable SmartSearch :D
So you won't be able anymore to use search function on your phone...
May you try QTweak to change SmartSearch priorities?

Kroll 2012-09-11 21:34
Re: high idle consumption
 
But I do not use Search app so I do not need SmartSearch... or it search video and music for built-in players too?

juiceme 2012-09-11 21:44
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 1265037)
But I do not use Search app so I do not need SmartSearch... or it search video and music for built-in players too?
No, that is done by the tracker, it is a different thing. Disabling smartsearch does not affect that.

N9uwu 2012-09-11 22:11
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kroll (Post 1265037)
But I do not use Search app so I do not need SmartSearch... or it search video and music for built-in players too?
It does affect the file-upload (or attachment) dialog, e.g. when adding a file to an email or when uploading a file on the gdrive website. I chose to re-enable smartsearch because of that.

cevenn 2012-09-11 23:17
Re: high idle consumption
 
Or if you want to choose a song for a contact, our find an old message or a doc...

Kroll 2012-09-12 10:13
Re: high idle consumption
 
Thanks for answers, now I going to re-enable SmartSearch because I use it a few times a week.

dcastrog 2012-09-29 02:14
Re: high idle consumption
 
how do you re-enable smartsearch?

Kroll 2012-09-29 10:30
Re: high idle consumption
 
The same command but change - to +

dommau 2012-10-08 18:54
Re: high idle consumption
 
under "device idle" in battery usage, what exactly are "other hardware and services"? my idle consumption is around 30 mA, and cpu usage is 11% of that ( avg 0% ... ). no background connections, on 3g.
any clues?
thanks!

bandora 2013-05-24 03:46
Re: high idle consumption
 
My idle consumption is way too high... How can I find the culprit??

http://dl.farahfa.com/tmp/Screen_23-May-13_23-41-31.png

hugon9 2013-05-24 05:06
Re: high idle consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandora (Post 1346421)
My idle consumption is way too high... How can I find the culprit??

http://dl.farahfa.com/tmp/Screen_23-May-13_23-41-31.png
in terminal:

top (enter)

check what process is eating your cpu (maybe meegotouchhome, maybe presenced, maybe smartsearch...)

ladoga 2013-05-24 06:06
Re: high idle consumption
 
I understand many Windows users love rebooting, but there's no need to reboot the phone after you make /usr/bin/smartsearch unexcecutable. Just kill the process. (killall smartsearch)

Fuzzillogic 2013-05-24 11:45
Re: high idle consumption
 
I never had an issue with smartsearch. High idle consumption can be caused by other things as well. Opera for example loves to eat away CPU even when running in background. And I've seen the mcompositor chewing on the CPU as well.

The top-command is indeed a good way to find the culprit.

bandora 2013-05-24 19:50
Re: high idle consumption
 
The culprit was indeed smartsearch.. It's weird though how this issue started suddenly! :S

I used N9QTweak to change smartsearch priority and it went down.. now my idle is around 32mA (still high, but way better than before lol)...

Sandro18 2013-05-25 13:45
Re: high idle consumption
 
when i type the code it comes : not such file or directory
any help?

ladoga 2013-05-25 14:22
Re: high idle consumption
 
You probably didn't type it correctly. File location is /usr/bin/smartsearch
So to make it unexecutable (-x) for all users. (a)
Code:
# chmod a-x /usr/bin/smartsearch
and then to force (-9) killing of smartsearch process:
Code:
# killall -9 smartsearch


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