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Maserti 2012-07-14 00:20

faceplam for windows phone & nokia -_-
 
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia...the-US_id32257

SamGan 2012-07-14 01:08

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You mean all the more than 400 fake 4 stars and 5 stars reviews on Amazon didn't help? What a shame!

Better execute Plan B, Nokia, if you have any.

Kozzi 2012-07-14 01:17

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Nokia: 1€/stock here we come..

SamGan 2012-07-14 01:30

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Here's another Nielsen chart: Smartphone Share by OS

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....re-q2-2012.jpg

Note that the defunct Windows Mobile has 3% market share in U.S. while WP7 has 1.3%, only twice more than the dead PalmOS. WP7 cannot even convert the existing base of WinMobile users. If this isn't a failure what is?

Nad 2012-07-14 01:31

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got nokia's swan song - my n9 - so will pretty much ignore nokia from now on in... unless in the ridiculously small chance they push out linux/meego devices as opposed to winfail.

Hootenholler 2012-07-14 02:01

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Is that Nielsen chart supposed to be to scale? And what category does Bada come under? Is that the 0.2%?

Kangal 2012-07-14 02:06

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Damn it.

Even I "predicted" that by Q2 2012, the market share for Palm, Symbian and Windows Mobile (6+) would be below a Total of 2%.

And that Nokia or Windows Phone 7 would have at least about 5% to themselves. So I was thinking they would have around 5 to 6 Million devices in use.

I'm sure Nokia also had similar hopes, of at least 5 Million, it does seem they've jumped unto a tiny canoe that cannot survive the great waves of the ocean. Should've extinguished the fire, or at least made allies with your neighbouring sinking ships (Palm and RIM, or Google).

somedude 2012-07-14 02:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootenholler (Post 1237265)
Is that Nielsen chart supposed to be to scale? And what category does Bada come under? Is that the 0.2%?

thats US, where bada is not even in the market

somedude 2012-07-14 02:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1237267)
Damn it.


I'm sure Nokia also had similar hopes, of at least 5 Million, it does seem they've jumped unto a tiny canoe that cannot survive the great waves of the ocean. Should've extinguished the fire, or at least made allies with your neighbouring sinking ships (Palm, RIM, or Google).

on what grounds are you calling a market leader a sinking ship?

Kangal 2012-07-14 02:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 1237271)
on what grounds are you calling a market leader a sinking ship?

Palm = Sinking Ship. Was making losses. Got sold for VERY CHEAP amount to HP who failed to unleash its potential.

RIM = Sinking Ship. Not making Profits, continually losing market share.

Nokia = Sinking Ship... they simply had no Smartphone Market/Ecosystem (apart from N900, N9, N950 niche).

Google = Not a Sinking Ship (though plagued with its own issues).
I fixed that post, so now it has correct grammar : )

SamGan 2012-07-14 02:37

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An inferior OS is an inferior OS and no amount of marketing and promotion is going to change that. Did MS believe people are going to love WP7's limitations, restrictions and missing features? Even to Win Mobile users WP7 is a downgrade and they have given it the finger.

ajwatt 2012-07-14 04:41

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Both Samsung and HTC have higher US market share in WP7 than Nokia. How's that for Microsoft's flagship partner?

Maserti 2012-07-14 05:11

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elop is a bloody trojan horse,the meego planwould of worked out alot better since its something the general public had experienced!

Kangal 2012-07-14 06:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maserti (Post 1237296)
elop is a bloody trojan horse,the meego planwould of worked out alot better since its something the general public had experienced!

Incorrect.

The public had experienced WP7 and WP7.5
They hadn't experienced MeeGo. In fact, it hasn't been experienced at all since the N9 doesn't run on MeeGo, it runs Maemo5.6 (Harmattan).

gerbick 2012-07-14 06:51

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No surprises here really.

abubakar 2012-07-14 18:16

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any mention anywhere of how many N9s have been sold?

mikecomputing 2012-07-14 18:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maserti (Post 1237243)

Seriously even if I personally want Nokia to fail because theyr stupid decisions but I really hope this is FUD!

Because this cant be true :O :O

taviman 2012-07-14 18:58

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I think they can change it's name from "Windows" to "Win-not".

mikecomputing 2012-07-14 19:33

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How bout Jolla selling more Jxxx mobiles than Lumias in USA next year ;)

Cant be that hard if above is true? :D

mariusmssj 2012-07-14 19:51

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Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1237312)
Incorrect.

The public had experienced WP7 and WP7.5
They hadn't experienced MeeGo. In fact, it hasn't been experienced at all since the N9 doesn't run on MeeGo, it runs Maemo5.6 (Harmattan).

I guess they called it MeeGo OS on N9 just for shits and giggles :D Harmattan and Meamo are code names.


The N9 runs ->

aironeous 2012-07-14 20:16

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I think we all saw this coming.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...acepalm_11.jpg

jd4200 2012-07-14 21:05

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Not sure about the U.S, but Nokia are really trying to promote windows phones over here, I recently watched a soap aimed at students and every other scene had some sort of product placement advertising, its quite sad.

volt 2012-07-14 21:23

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Yeah, there was a key scene in Touch where Kiefer Sutherland's sole purpose was to demonstrate the usefulness(?) of an augmented reality application on a cyan Lumia. It broke the flow of the story.

MINKIN2 2012-07-14 21:30

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Originally Posted by jd4200 (Post 1237545)
Not sure about the U.S, but Nokia are really trying to promote windows phones over here, I recently watched a soap aimed at students and every other scene had some sort of product placement advertising, its quite sad.

Well it's no wonder they aren't selling in any great numbers if they are advertising in the middle of hollyoaks. ;)

Zoxir 2012-07-14 22:30

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Woohooo for micronokia the sail for fail continues. Will the next Lumia beat the Kin in biggest failure ever??? stay tuned

qwazix 2012-07-14 23:01

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Seems like they tied a weight to their legs before jumping off that burning platform...


Oh, and it wasn't really burning, I had just turned the heater on.

onethreealpha 2012-07-14 23:48

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buying space for advertising in tv shows and movies works well if you have something new/innovative (think of the communicator in James Bond) to push, but the problem with WP is it doesn't offer anything new.
the one thing it does offer is consistency.
MS have consistently offered mobile platforms that don't support older hardware, provide nothing new (in fact, often less features than the competition) and fail to provide an upgrade path on existing hardware.
Akin to the XP to Vista Fiasco, untold large organisations have chosen to stick with older versions of winmo simply because the new versions are a downgrade in terms of application compatibility and featureset.
MS have also consistently told users that the current issues "will be fixed in the next release/version".
Australia has seen a massive push in advertising for the Lumia line, and yet speaking with sales people (both operators and even stand alone retailers) in the industry, they call it "boring" and lacking in features.
Now why would you try to sell to a customer base that competition demands you need to retain, a product that risks alienating them?
And Nokia jumped into bed with this?

SamGan 2012-07-15 00:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1237506)
Seriously even if I personally want Nokia to fail because theyr stupid decisions but I really hope this is FUD!

Because this cant be true :O :O

Why not? Before Nokia entered the scene WP7 in U.S. had market share in the low single digit and declining every quarter. As for Nokia it's brand name in U.S. is associated with cheap flip phones that grandmas use. So inferior OS marries cheap branding and what do you expect? A success?


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